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Title: Pub for the England game
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 22:23:39
Anyone going out to watch it ?


As a man of leisure now getting a bit fed up of being indoors


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 06:38:34
£1 a pint in the Winners until the first goal, which I can't envisage being quick


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: axs on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 06:43:36
I'm going to this, getting home might be interesting.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 07:25:45
Yeah good luck with that. Might prove quite difficult with no tube service.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 07:45:28
Yeah, I am off to Wembly too.  Not looking forward to getting out of the place.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 07:54:56
Reminds me of the old Fishermans Friend advert

"And I aint looking forward to the journey home neither" :)


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: axs on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 08:55:52
Yeah good luck with that. Might prove quite difficult with no tube service.

It'll be an adventure, and I have Thursday off work if the worst should happen.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: nochee on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 09:25:42
I wont be able to see it over here. Does anyone know of any free live streaming sites?


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 09:31:35
Even the overground train services aren't stopping at Wembley.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 10:09:40
I'm going to this, getting home might be interesting.
When I go to Wembley I usually get the number 18 bus back to central London with no problems. It goes somewhere near Paddington too if that's where you're headed


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: axs on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 10:16:11
i know someone who's driving so may score a lift home with them, if not i'll look for a number 18!


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 14:45:17
Most of the tube lines aren't closed and are running some sort of shuttle service, certainly you can get to Wembley Park but it will be busy. No idea if it will run late on though.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 15:18:56
I wont be able to see it over here. Does anyone know of any free live streaming sites?

justin tv


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: santasdead on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 15:58:29
I wont be able to see it over here. Does anyone know of any free live streaming sites?

www.myp2p.eu  click on sports>football

Most links will require some form of software installment,however they are mostly poor quality. If there is a link provided by Veetle from some sort of setanta,go for it. High quality,quick buffering & probably english comentary! You will need to install the video player,but its just a different form of flash,won't take 2 minutes & is worth it.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 16:59:03
Most of the tube lines aren't closed and are running some sort of shuttle service, certainly you can get to Wembley Park but it will be busy. No idea if it will run late on though.
The bus tends to be quicker for getting back to the centre anyway, seeing as theres thousands queueing for the tube!


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:20:07
£1 a pint in the Winners until the first goal, which I can't envisage being quick

That lasted long


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: michael on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:28:44
I guess that Andorra's kit is what an adidas Swindon Town shirt would look a bit like.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:41:12
I'm already regretting breaking my exile and watching this. Why the hell against a village team are we playing four at the back, when they have one in our half? Maybe i'm missing something but i'd go 3-4-3 or go right retro and go 2-3-5.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: michael on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:43:00
Well personally I'd go rush 'keeper, ala Sensible Soccer.

I'd often get the man in nets to bag a hat-trick.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:43:17
Alas, football isn't always about entertainment - it's about getting the job done. Boring though :)


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:46:15
I guess that Andorra's kit is what an adidas Swindon Town shirt would look a bit like.

Think I'd be happy with that


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 19:50:46
Has someone ironed lescotts forehead?


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 20:14:00
We might as well do what they do in Ice Hockey and "pull our goalie". They still wouldn't score.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 20:18:12
Jimmy Greaves is a legend!


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:04:13
what did greaves say i missed it


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:07:59
He didn't know who Andorra were, but reckoned the 66 squad out on the pitch getting their medals would beat them easy.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:13:23
Great game, expected result.... surly a win now seals a WC place?


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:25:35
Great game, expected result.... surly a win now seals a WC place?

Come on, there is no possible way we could fuck up qualification now. Even McLaren couldn't fuck it up.

Besides, not much point speculating at the moment as there are three more games in the group until we play again. With the right results we'll qualify without kicking a ball again.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:36:01
Come on, there is no possible way we could fuck up qualification now. Even McLaren couldn't fuck it up.

Besides, not much point speculating at the moment as there are three more games in the group until we play again. With the right results we'll qualify without kicking a ball again.

No for sure, we wont fuck it up now, just wondering when it is official


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:36:58
And then make a complete bollocks of it at the finals! be prepared seen it too many times, we haven't changed our spots, and still aren't very good.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: nochee on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:37:39
Up to 6th in the FIFA world rankings.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 21:41:12
Up to 6th in the FIFA world rankings.

and only 1 place behind Brazil, wtf is going on?

That was before this weeks games as well, though unlikely we'll overtake Brazil in the next update.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Doore on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 22:34:21
And then make a complete bollocks of it at the finals! be prepared seen it too many times, we haven't changed our spots, and still aren't very good.

I think we are a very good international team.  The trouble is there are quite a few top class international teams (Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Netherlands, and perhaps Portugal and Italy), who will beat us in a competitive meeting.  This was the case under Sven, we dropped back to average under McLaren, and now have regained our "very good" status.  I'm seeing another quarter-final exit to one of the aforementioned top class international teams.  Which after 2008 would be more than acceptable.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 22:37:50
And then make a complete bollocks of it at the finals! be prepared seen it too many times, we haven't changed our spots, and still aren't very good.

Dunno, they seem to be showing more under Fabio, still not the best team out there by a long shot but there seems to be a renewed assurance along with better application.

Before they just assumed they'd get results, now they look like they're prepared to make sure they do.

We may still bow out at QF stages again but I think (hope) that it will be a more spirited attempt, and that really is all we can ask for.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: axs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 00:31:24
Enjoyed that day out, tubes were running fine, not even a delay between paddington and wembley, not sure what the rest of london was like.

Six goals and some nice ale, top day.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 05:04:28
I think we are a very good international team.  The trouble is there are quite a few top class international teams (Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Netherlands, and perhaps Portugal and Italy), who will beat us in a competitive meeting.  This was the case under Sven, we dropped back to average under McLaren, and now have regained our "very good" status.  I'm seeing another quarter-final exit to one of the aforementioned top class international teams.  Which after 2008 would be more than acceptable.


well we wont get beaten by portugal, looks like they arent going to make it to the finals.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 06:55:34
England beat a pub team and now they are 4th favourites to win the world cup. Hysteria gone mad. It wasn't even that good a game. Boring if anything else.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 07:06:04
It wasn't even that good a game. Boring if anything else.
You can only beat what is put in front of you.  Andorra were poor, but we stuck to our task in a professional manner - although Crouch has a question to answer.  He could have walked!


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 07:08:25
I know it was a professional job, but people still harp on about how good England are especially after last nights performance. Yes the lads are doing well, but seriously 4th favourites to win the world cup?!!


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 07:31:15
Ok game I thought.
Very profesional job, and I thought Beckham had a brilliant game.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Bennett on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 07:35:11
although Crouch has a question to answer.  He could have walked!

i can't tell if you're mocking the shite commentary but to me it seemed as if he was just pushing the guy who seemed quite fond of holding him to create a bit of space. it was unlucky the robots arm hit him in the chest but to go down like he was whacked in the face should've been a red in its own right


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:39:43
I know it was a professional job, but people still harp on about how good England are especially after last nights performance. Yes the lads are doing well, but seriously 4th favourites to win the world cup?!!
I think thats more on the back of the 7 straight wins not last nights game. Was good to see Terry basically avoid answering when asked of our world cup hopes next year.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: yeo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:51:09
The only reason England are 4th favourites is because the Bookies are mainly English and Irish and lots of English people put bets on them driving the prices down.

We are going to win the World Cup though....

What sort of time ddifference is there between here and SA? what time do you think games will be on?


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:53:22
2 hours ahead


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:54:41
I think it's pretty similar as South Africa is pretty much just straight down. Maybe East a bit? Possibly + an hour or two.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:55:06
What sort of time ddifference is there between here and SA? what time do you think games will be on?

Barely any. An hour or two ahead I think. So games will all be shown when the sun is past the yard arm, so to speak.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:18:56
What sort of time ddifference is there between here and SA? what time do you think games will be on?
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_ZA.aspx


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:26:18
England beat a pub team and now they are 4th favourites to win the world cup. Hysteria gone mad. It wasn't even that good a game. Boring if anything else.

They've gone down then, they were 3rd if not 2nd favourites at one point. But its nothing to do with the last couple of games, its how they've been playing under Capello.

My main concern at the moment is the keeper and forwards. James is ok but you never know when he will go off on one and none of the others are good enough either, we really need Ben Foster to be playing regularly next season. Same with our forwards, other than Rooney we look really weak, we really need Michael Owen to pull it together and get back on form.

I wonder if Capello and the FA get involved in this sort of thing, telling players what they need to do and maybe exerting a little pressure to ensure they get games - out on loan or a transfer.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:49:36
They've gone down then, they were 3rd if not 2nd favourites at one point. But its nothing to do with the last couple of games, its how they've been playing under Capello.

My main concern at the moment is the keeper and forwards. James is ok but you never know when he will go off on one and none of the others are good enough either, we really need Ben Foster to be playing regularly next season. Same with our forwards, other than Rooney we look really weak, we really need Michael Owen to pull it together and get back on form.

I wonder if Capello and the FA get involved in this sort of thing, telling players what they need to do and maybe exerting a little pressure to ensure they get games - out on loan or a transfer.

Agree with the keepers although I like Green and Foster.  With the strikers both Heskey and Crouch have scored in there last games so don't think you can be too critical.  Think the team looks a lot better with Heskey in it, hes a battering ram up there and creates so much just by using his strength to fend off other people.  Most strikers Heskey has ever played with say he is the best strike partner they have had as hes unselfish, great at holding the ball up and a good threat from set pieces.  I agree beyond Heskey and Rooney it looks a bit weak but I would say theres plenty of time before the world cup for strikers to emerge.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:33:02
I think its more the lack of a fall back plan up front that is the problem. Rooney and Heskey look good together, provided they are both available for every game then we should be fine but if we lose one of them we're fucked.

I rate Crouch but the problem is we just don't seem to have a game plan for Rooney & Crouch or Heskey & Crouch, I think both combinations could work but we haven't figured it out. At present we'd most likely go with Rooney or Crouch up front on their own, add a midfielder and push Gerrard up but I'm not sure that works that well for us.

Owen is the obvious option, I reckon we should be giving him a run out in a friendly - it might be the boost he needs.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:38:39
I think its more the lack of a fall back plan up front that is the problem. Rooney and Heskey look good together, provided they are both available for every game then we should be fine but if we lose one of them we're fucked.

I rate Crouch but the problem is we just don't seem to have a game plan for Rooney & Crouch or Heskey & Crouch, I think both combinations could work but we haven't figured it out. At present we'd most likely go with Rooney or Crouch up front on their own, add a midfielder and push Gerrard up but I'm not sure that works that well for us.

Owen is the obvious option, I reckon we should be giving him a run out in a friendly - it might be the boost he needs.

Owen has looked terrible in the final part of the season, don't think he should be near the squad until he has changed clubs and recaptured his form.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:56:35
England beat a pub team and now they are 4th favourites to win the world cup. Hysteria gone mad. It wasn't even that good a game. Boring if anything else.
About 4th favourites is about right, definitely shouldn't be lower than 6th favourites. www.eloratings.net has England ranked 4th in the world, 6th in the fifa rankings too so what's so strange about being 4th favourites? This doesn't mean England are likely to win, it means we have a small chance and 1/4 finals or semi finals is pretty likely.

I think we're worse than Spain, Netherlands and Brazil and about equal with Italy, Germany, France, Argentina, Russia and Croatia.


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:04:42
Plus we're also more likely at this stage to actually be there than most other teams which counts for a lot at the moment...


Title: Re: Pub for the England game
Post by: Doore on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 23:04:07
Owen has looked terrible in the final part of the season, don't think he should be near the squad until he has changed clubs and recaptured his form.

I don't think in the sytem we are playing that Owen, even at top form, is the right man.  Essentially, with Gerrard, Rooney and Walcott operating behind a front man, that front man really needs to be a striker who can bring other players in to play. That has never been Owen's strong point.  Its quite an unselfish role, and needs the right type of player.  The real worry is that the best player of that type that we have is Emile Heskey. Crouch had his chance to prove himself in this role last night and it didn't work. We don't have a truly international class of that type of player.  So if we play this system, it has to be Heskey.

I'd have a fully fit Owen on the bench, if we have 10 mins to grab a goal he is worth a shot.