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Title: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, June 8, 2009, 08:49:35
So who are we realistically hoping could make a breakthrough to the first team next season?

Kennedy and Thompson for me.Not saying they will be playing week in week out but would expect these two to be involved a lot more next season.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, June 8, 2009, 09:13:55
Macklin maybe.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Spy on Monday, June 8, 2009, 12:45:21
Kennedy. Morrison will continue to establish himself.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, June 8, 2009, 12:50:19
I can see Morrison being 1st choice, and Kennedy being given a real run (like Morrison last season). For both of them a permanent 1st team place will be there for the taking, they just have to perform.

I can't see Macklin getting many starts at first, a regular on the subs bench though.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, June 8, 2009, 13:06:48
I agree with jonny here, think Kennedy could get a run in the side. I'm hopeful for Macklin, as he showed some quality against Brighton when he came on - and for no other reason than gut feeling, I'd say the Orient game was a blip for him.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, June 8, 2009, 14:06:32
Macklin could have a good chance. I think Wilson rates him and likes his pace.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, June 8, 2009, 14:18:42
I agree with jonny here, think Kennedy could get a run in the side. I'm hopeful for Macklin, as he showed some quality against Brighton when he came on - and for no other reason than gut feeling, I'd say the Orient game was a blip for him.
I'm pretty sure you're right about the Orient game. If that's all he had to offer he wouldn't still be at the club! Just needs some time to settle in to the 1st team a bit I reckon, rather than having a relegation-threatened crowd abusing his every error


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, June 8, 2009, 14:38:08
I'm pretty sure you're right about the Orient game. If that's all he had to offer he wouldn't still be at the club!

He was shit in that game. But it looked like he was a bit nervous, his first touch was terrible and it went downhill from there. Though he did get one good run at the defence in. He will improve (he can't get any worse than Orient) and I'm sure Wilson will give him plenty of time to develop - like he has Marshall.

I haven't seen him play much (just the Orient game) but he looked a lot more attacking than McNamee and Marshall, more of a striker / winger (like Kanu) than a midfield / winger. Anyone seen him play more often?


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, June 8, 2009, 14:55:29
Yes and i honestly dont think he is anywhere near ready. Dont think he has played that many ressie games yet. I dont doubt for 1 min he will be a very good player just not yet.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 8, 2009, 15:32:46
The only time I have seen Kennedy in the first team was at Yeovil and he looked way way out of his depth, I have seen him in the ressys and he looks OK

Maybe it was just a poor 1 off performance and I can't judge him by that but his crossing was totally wayward and very early, never took on his man, but then he was playing more left wing and not left back which is his natural position.

But hes still very young as is Maklin, who looks very keen and quick but no better than Marshall for me.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, June 8, 2009, 15:54:58
Problem with kennedy last year was he never got to play alongside greer. You only have to look at the improvement morrison gained alongside him to see how important that was. The times kennedy played too many players shirked responsibility.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 8, 2009, 16:00:36
Maybe it was just a poor 1 off performance and I can't judge him by that but his crossing was totally wayward and very early, never took on his man, but then he was playing more left wing and not left back which is his natural position.

Funny old game isn't it....I was quite impressed by his early crossing, which is exactly what coaches tell you to do, it's then up to the strikers to get on the end of it.

OK I was at the other end of the ground mostly, but he seemed to get it into dangerous areas. Then again I'm one of those who'll always give a kid a chance before getting on his case...unlike many Town fans.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, June 8, 2009, 16:01:26
The only time I have seen Kennedy in the first team was at Yeovil and he looked way way out of his depth, I have seen him in the ressys and he looks OK

Maybe it was just a poor 1 off performance and I can't judge him by that but his crossing was totally wayward and very early, never took on his man, but then he was playing more left wing and not left back which is his natural position.

But hes still very young as is Maklin, who looks very keen and quick but no better than Marshall for me.
Kennedy had a good game at Crewe, which is more than could be said for most


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, June 8, 2009, 16:04:16
I thought Kennedy looked good in all the games I saw him, maybe not 100% there but pretty close. A lot more consistent than the other youngsters and was a lot better in his first game than Morrison was.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 8, 2009, 16:07:32
Funny old game isn't it....I was quite impressed by his early crossing, which is exactly what coaches tell you to do, it's then up to the strikers to get on the end of it.

OK I was at the other end of the ground mostly, but he seemed to get it into dangerous areas. Then again I'm one of those who'll always give a kid a chance before getting on his case...unlike many Town fans.

If this is aimed at me then I feel you are way off the mark, I am very willing to give every player, kid or not, a chance and at no point was I getting "on his case".

I just stated that from where I was watching his crossing was poor and way off the mark....or maybe that was due to the strikers not being in the right position for his crosses?

And I also stated that that is the only 1st team game I have seen him play in, and as R4E says apparently he had a good game at Crewe but I am unable to judge as I was not there.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 8, 2009, 18:19:21
If this is aimed at me then I feel you are way off the mark, I am very willing to give every player, kid or not, a chance and at no point was I getting "on his case".

I just stated that from where I was watching his crossing was poor and way off the mark....or maybe that was due to the strikers not being in the right position for his crosses?

And I also stated that that is the only 1st team game I have seen him play in, and as R4E says apparently he had a good game at Crewe but I am unable to judge as I was not there.

But you said he looked way out of his depth...which I'd consider a very harsh judgement, especially in such an inept team performance.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 8, 2009, 18:51:11
He was way out of his depth, he was the worst player on the pitch IMO, but thats not me judging his whole career based on one sub standard performance, as I think you will find I stated.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, June 8, 2009, 19:05:03
Hahaha Reg the most depressing doom and gloom merchant ever thinks are fans are harsh.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: pumbaa on Monday, June 8, 2009, 19:21:13
Kennedy was not the worst player on the pitch that day. That honour belonged to Amankwaah, who was utterly inept. Callum was poor, but so were the 9 other outfield players........

The memories of that day still scar me.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 8, 2009, 19:32:34
Scarred for life, actually I forgot how bad Awankman was, i mentally blocked it!


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 8, 2009, 20:08:42
Kennedy was not the worst player on the pitch that day. That honour belonged to Amankwaah, who was utterly inept. Callum was poor, but so were the 9 other outfield players........

The memories of that day still scar me.

Quite...when a kid comes into a side, he should expect a bit of help from the senior pros around him...didn't get any that day.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: santasdead on Monday, June 8, 2009, 20:12:52
I'd like to see kennedy kick on next season,both times i saw him last season he was really good, especially at crewe.

Morrison,if he stays,would be a good asset next year i think,him and greer will be tough beating.



Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: pumbaa on Monday, June 8, 2009, 20:37:26
The more I cast my mind back to that day - and boy there are some vivid memories still etched in my mind - the more I believe young Callum was more unsure of his role. He looked completely lost that day, and got worse as soon as the moaning started. He wasn't helped by having the woeful Jack Shit as 'support' at LB.

Quite a miserable team performance, including some strange tactical decisions (or lack of IMO) by Wilson. Matched by a miserable performance from the fans, me included.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 8, 2009, 20:51:28
Quite a miserable team performance, including some strange tactical decisions (or lack of IMO) by Wilson. Matched by a miserable performance from the fans, me included.

I've come to hate these games, where our fans turn out in decent numbers at what are for us old school fans, essentially non league clubs and we're pathetic and get rolled over. The worst part of it is their fans don't seem to care much either way.

  This recentish list of shame would be headed by two defeats at Cheltnumb...losing at R and D was it Boxing Day, when Fallon got sent off on debut. Losing at Macclesfield, and Barnet where our fans outnumbered the home support...and lastly this season at Yeovil.

 Our record at Wycombe isn't too bad in the league...but getting beat 4-1 in the Cup when Tony Adams was wheeled out, sort of qualifies.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, June 8, 2009, 21:40:32
Kennedy was poor in the game at Yeovil, but it's worth bearing in mind that he was playing left-mid, where he looked decidely uncomfortable, and as others have said, he wasn't helped by the poor team performance.

Also, when he had that short run in the side earlier in the season, he played very well, barely putting a foot wrong - I'd say that was a better example of what he has to offer the team.


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: chrome dome on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 16:06:29
It's difficult to judge any of the youngsters on their performances last year because they were coming into a team that was playing badly and lacked confidence. Morrison should continue to improve and show his worth. Kennedy looks a good player but needs to bulk up - he looked a bit lightweight up against the big boys. Macklin has genuine pace and skill but he's still only 17 so there's plenty of time for him to develop and I reckon we might see what he can do if he's given the chance. Not sure about Thompson - I've seen him several times and think he's overated


Title: Re: Youngsters next season.
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 17:06:08
I've come to hate these games, where our fans turn out in decent numbers at what are for us old school fans, essentially non league clubs and we're pathetic and get rolled over. The worst part of it is their fans don't seem to care much either way.

  This recentish list of shame would be headed by two defeats at Cheltnumb...losing at R and D was it Boxing Day, when Fallon got sent off on debut. Losing at Macclesfield, and Barnet where our fans outnumbered the home support...and lastly this season at Yeovil.

 Our record at Wycombe isn't too bad in the league...but getting beat 4-1 in the Cup when Tony Adams was wheeled out, sort of qualifies.
That Barnet defeat was shameful, and the Wycombe game was poor. Thankfully I wasn't at any of the others!