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Town cull is not over
           

  UP to four more Town players could face the axe this summer, as boss Danny Wilson begins to mould his own side for an assault on League One next season.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/4393254.Town_cull_is_not_over/?ref=rss
           

Would think casal would be one and personally i would try and offload peacock. Wonder if that includes cox and morrison. Doubt it though.

Was hoping for more than 4 signings we need a keeper, a full back, a playmaker/enforcer centre midfielder, a winger and 2 more strikers at least.  So I reckon we would need 6 signings minimum possibly as many as 8.

Problem is if we sign too many new players and it doesn't come off we'll probably get the 'gelling' excuse.

I dont understand what you mean? So you think Dw thought i wont buy loads of players as i dont want to blame players not gelling ;-)

I can't see it including Cox. I reckon it'll be Casal, Marshall, possibly Peacock and quite possibly Aljofree as well. Oh and maybe JPM. so 4 of those 5.

Agreed and I wouldn't shed a tear over them in fact, it would be great. As for gelling, good coaching sorts that out and i don't think we've had a "gelled" team since Sturrock went.

I agree with all those IOB.

Add ifil aswel. Fuck it

But our 'inside'r told us Ifil is going to Palace ;)

Do you think DW will sign players with those thoughts,thats probably the worst quote i have read in weeks.He will know the players he is trying to sign,he would have seen them play,he will ask do they fit into the system and style he wants to play and if the answers are yes and they are better than what we already have im hoping he will sign them.Im certain he wont be saying i wonder if this one or that one will gel,what a load of tosh.

As DRS said Buckingham Palace.

You know what I mean. He's obviously got targets in mind, but not all the time players get on. How many times has the excuse been used?!!

Calm down love..

why does everyone hate JPM so much?

appeared to have a bad attitude under Malpas but under Sturrock, Byrne and even Wilson he's been a good player?

I agree with you Sippo its an excuse often used,but i think its a poor excuse to use when your not getting results.Im sure background checks would be done,not only about what individuals are like on the pitch but also off it as well.Sorry if i bit but the gelling scenario just dont wash with me.

I like JPM, ironically I thought he was playing ok until he got dropped/injured. When he came on for HRK against Wovers he showed a good touch and looked sharp and hungry. Did more in 20 mins than HRK did the whole game.

I reckon with a decent pre-season he could become a good squad player.

For my money JPM has been one of our better plays under DW.

Shame he got injured when he did really because he could have put a nice run of games together.

I personally think that fatherhood has been the making of him down here in Swindon, Wiltshire.

good, good I was begining to think it was just me that thought JPM was a decent player.

No idea, delivers afar better ball and has better visions than HRK does at this stage of his career. You could criticise him for lack of effort at some points, but he seemed to have sorted that out too.

i've always rated jpm too.
hoping to see the back of peacock and ifil

I think that people don't like him because he is Scottish.

I find myself able to look past this and just consider his overall contribution to the team.

Just my opinion but i like my wingers to be pacy and direct. Jpm is ok but thats it he is just ok.

Slow, can't tackle and his delivery is over-rated because it's more miss than hit. He'd annoy me less if he caused the opposition problems but he seems to be a central midfielder in a wingers role simply because his crossing is his best attribute.

No coincidence that we improved with two pacey wingers . They were being doubled up on which allowed us to control games at times.

I take you point on JPM's pace, but which two wingers were pacey? Can't remember the last time any of our wingers took on the fullback and beat them for pace. Roberts could do this.

Kevin Amankwaah was probably our best winger for it.

Mark Marshall did it a few times

I'm guessing one of them was Marshall, he may not be the finished article but he's undeniably rapid. Macca and Kanu are nippy at times as well.

As i said batch they were being doubled up and to be fair kanu took players on and scored did he not?

Out of interest anyone know which midfielder got most assists.

McNamee....

Macca - 10 in the league, 2 in cups

should be a full list

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/Assists/0,,10341~200810341,00.html

Thats not bad is it batch for someone who dont take on players.

Meh JPM isn't great. People seem to be saying good things about him when he joined but he hasn't produced. For me he's an average L1 player. He will do as back-up but if we can find a better RM like HRK for example why keep him if he's on a big wage?

Surely by signing just 4 new players isnt going solve our  problems from last season :-[

I read it as 4 extra players. Dont know why. Dw said if/when cox goes we will need 3 strikers alone

Against Peterboro it looked like we had made a new signing, why cant he play like that every week.

Maybe the wing back role suits him better?

Or maybe he was playing like he is in the shop window. It was only a few weeks ago he said he may have to leave to get first team football

or maybe he's a good footballer?


oooh the possibilities.

Haha course he is good but good enough

We'll see next season I suppose. I think yes.

Pook had an equal amount of decent games last season and he doesn't make the grade, so why should other players?

It's time we got less sentimental and relied on form rather than reputation. The likes of Peacock, Easton, Kanyuka and McGovern have a lot to prove. Also, Aljofree has got to prove he can come back from injury and put the past behind him. All of these can be decent L1 players but I wouldn't be too upset if they were shown the door.

I think I rate JPM because of his time at Sheffield Wednesday (where he was an ever-present in their promotion side), and MKD, I still think he has it all to prove here though.

Under Sturrrock he was brilliant, the game that stands out the most was when we beat Gillingham 5-0 - he and Roberts took the piss.

His problem's consistency from what i've seen. Personally i'd like to see him possibly play off the lone striker away from home, think he'd work well behind Cox. Think we should try that in a few friendlies. I'd be a bit disappointed if he went simply because I think he's more than good enough as a squad player.

JPM has been ok, and certainly not warranting of some of the stick he received....but....

if we are seriously trying to step up a level, he's another Jack Smith type player.  Releasing 13 shows what happens when you accept the "good squad player" argument.  At somepoint you need someone who writes their own name on the team sheet before it's been pressed from pulp.  JPM is not that player.  Kanu showed far more in the 30 odd minutes per game he turned it on to be honest and if I was a League 1 defender I know which type of player would worry me more.

If we were looking for another season of the same, or were in the league below, JPM would be a must have type of player.  I'm hoping he is surplus to requirements, in a positive way.

Good post Rob...my hope is we have a manager now that knows ware JPM is best to play...having him tracking back and trying to tackle is embarasing...ime not a great fan but theres no doubt he has quality at times...lets hope weve got a manager who can get the best out of him.

Agree with that leefer

I think most fans agree JPM has talent and on his day is worth keeping. The problem I have with him is that these days are not often enough and he decides when he wants to play regardless of the situation the Town are in. It was obvious this season he didn't want to play for Malpas. I'm a little old fashioned here but I want players who want to play for STFC not for themselves. What if he descides he doesn't want to play for Wilson. Basically, he's not a good professional. We've got enough of these and if we want to move the club forward he needs to go and he needs to get his head sorted or he's another player who will wonder when they're 50 why they ended up non league at 30.

Whilst the squad did need trimming, I'm not sure about going down to 22 players in total - including the youth team players that have just signed pro contracts. Which is what Byrne seems to be saying in that interview.

That's 18 players excluding the youths. I think that'll be fine. There's always loan signings if we are desperate.

So excluding the youths we'd have; 2 keepers, 6 defenders, 6 midfielders and 4 forwards.

You reckon that is enough to last a season? Sure there are loan signings, but why not have enough to begin with. I reckon we need 3 more players minimum, so 25 including the youths.

Imagine how many that could have been if he'd had more than a paltry 30 starts

On that ratio another 4. Dont thank me.

Don't forget, McNamee finished the season strongly because he was dropped and had that kick up the arse from DW. I also think it took a while for DW to get the team to adapt to a style which benefitted the wingers.

That only took you 2 minutes DRS-fucking mental genius!

Few southern comforts and i am like the fuckin rain man Adje

Short and with a stutter?

Totally agree Iffy 18 plus the kids,we must trust these kids now we have given them contracts,we will only find out if they are good enough by giving them a chance and also with fewer numbers it will leave the kids to develop in the reserves on a regular basis.

Hopefully the likes of kennedy morrison and thompson play alot more next season. What we also need though is a few fighters so to speak players who will take responsibility. I think it was brighton or millwall this season when experienced players just didnt want the ball and were playing it to kennedy/morrison and relying on them.

Your rite mate you need leaders like Greer speak tomoz DR

Loads of fans hate JPM because he is THE most underperforming player in the squad.

He was excellent under Sturrock. But same as Aljofree, fell apart when Luggy left.

Just hasnt cut it for 18 months now. He's had the odd good game here and there (Orient away was notable). Many games his effort has been utterly abysmal. Refuses to tackle or make runs. His interview before Carlisle he basically said he was looking to move. Good luck to him. I hope he doesnt piss away the rest of his career like he pissed away the last 18 months.

The stalest player of a squad that went stale. Needs to move on.

Aljofree's unhappiness went hand-in-hand with Malpas' tenure. Press talk wise, he's lightened up since MM left.

I think McGovern could be the same - he can be fixed... But I wouldn't lose any sleep if he left.

Spot on...at least JPM has made a public admission that he knows he probably needs to move on and may not just see out his contract.

Good, well hopefully he can fuck off then and most of us will be happy - or pull his fucking finger out and knuckle down like a prrofessional and show us what we know he's made of but can't be arsed to show.

I see Wilson has said again that a few more could go. Maybe the ones who have yet to sign a deal? Suprised they havnt signed yet tbh.

I doubt it'll be them - Wilson wouldn't have offered them deals if he didn't want them to stay

Obviously haha. What i mean is maybe 1 or 2 of them dont want to sign.

Perhaps, although I'm not sure they'll get better offers. Fair enough if they do though I suppose

Phil smith hasn't signed yet i wouldn't be worried if he didn't

Well they're probably biding their time to see what else is on offer.

I had an ace conversation with a guy this afternoon that went along the familiar lines of 'I know a guy, who knows a guy, who used to work with someone who knows a guy that works at the club'

Apparently, according to this great, reliable source, Paynter is being looked at by a couple of Championship clubs...... and Phil Smith isnt happy reading that Lucas is nailed on as our starting number one and is going to turn down the new contract.

I think he was looking for me to get all excited with this 'scoop' but I just shrugged and said, "really? Doesnt sound very likely" he looked very hurt.....

I wouldn't be suprised if all of those who were offered deals left. Depends on the deal really... Look at Carl Regan, offered 1 year by Di Matteo but left for a less fancied team because Paul Trollope offered him 2.

Does anyone know if these deals were 1 or 2 years?

1 years and reading about lucas is what made me think Smith may leave.

They'll be on holiday while their agents ring around the leagues then :)

Kanyuka's was "SHORT TERM", whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

I think Smudger will sign :)

There is also the rumour about us looking at Ross County's keeper?

Surely we wouldnt be doing that if Smith was likely to sign.

I dont think he will get a better offer. He had some right howlers last season. But then again, I do want him to stay.

In fairness we were name mentioned - I'm not convinced by it.

If, say, a League Two club offered Smith 2 years - I reckon he'd take it.