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Title: bradford anniversary
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Monday, May 11, 2009, 20:19:48
Havent seen this metioned anywhere, its the 24th anniversary today. RIP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leINX5vbjQU&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: adje on Monday, May 11, 2009, 20:24:05
Yeah-funny how it doesn't get the same attention as Hillsborough,equally tragic.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2009, 20:25:35
I concur, tragic day I remember watching it live on TV they went over to it during ITV World of Sports as I was laid up with flu.

Terrible terrible day, may they all RIP.

One of the few times I have actually shed a tear watching TV. Brings back awful memories.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 11, 2009, 20:26:33
It was 20 years since Hillsborough, which is a "big" anniversary. For some reason things get more coverage when the time passed ends in a 0 or a 5, I expect there'll be more coverage of this next year, horrible as it sounds.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 11, 2009, 20:51:26
They use that Bradford video in many fire safety training corses. The speed and intensity of the fire was, well, was deadly.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 11, 2009, 21:53:06
I remember when I was in primary school and we visited the County Ground had a tour etc. But they played us videos of both Valley Parade and Hillsborough disasters.

Let's just say the mood was pretty sombre for the rest of the day. I'm glad I got shown it though, wouldn't know much about it otherwise.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Ironside on Monday, May 11, 2009, 22:17:58
I sat there watching that (after the wrestling) with my nan. Fucking disaster absolute disaster. If only they were scouse and they'd have the sympathy they deserve.

RIP


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Ironside on Monday, May 11, 2009, 22:22:22
Having re-watched that video...respect to South Yorkshire OB, shame abou Hillsborough.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Arnold.J.Rimmer on Monday, May 11, 2009, 22:35:07
It's unbelievable how quickly that spread, there were a few people who just burnt to death while still sat in their seats.



Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Ironside on Monday, May 11, 2009, 22:57:44
Arguably more spectacular but resulted in a lower death toll.

Not taking away from either (Bradford is personally the one that hit me hardest as a kid) but I can't help thinking that the scouser's have probably had a more sympathetic hearing from the media than perhaps they (comparatively) deserve.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 06:44:20
the scouser's have probably had a more sympathetic hearing from the media than perhaps they (comparatively) deserve.

Not sure what people mean about this. Why should they get a less sympathetic hearing? And I'm pretty sure they haven't forgiven The Sun yet either.

Or do you mean in comparison the Bradford disaster doesn't get it's due respect in comparison?



Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 08:56:28
Oh my god that is just mental - This is bad but I dont really know much about it - I was only like 3 or 4 at the time

How did the fire start? a cigarette or something? was the stand made of wood? how many people died?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:01:29
56 people died.

It was a wooden stand and there was loads of rubbish underneath it which had accumulated over the years. The fire probably started from a cigarette, yes.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:11:30
JFW, the wikkipedia page describes what happened, and how the exits were padlocked shut and had to be broken down.

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=34288.msg697533;topicseen#new

But having seen the video it's the speed of the spread of fire once it got going that stands out. From flicker to engulfed stand took only a few minutes. And of course people didn't initially realise the full implications of what was to unfold.

Truly horrible.



Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:20:04
It was truly horrific. One of the fans who died was a Lincoln fan - the others City. It was part of a very bad spell for football, Hillsborough and Heysel as well along with Leeds fans kicking over a wall and killing a B'ham fan.
The thing that shocked me about all of these is that it equally have been me or anyone else old enough to be around at the time. It was all so indescriminate. Anyone old enough to have been at Mansfield in Div 4 and Luton in the ZDF trophy will know what I mean.
Bradfors's first league game with their new stand was against us and we lost 2-0. Interestingly, whilst the new stand was fine getting out of the away end wasn't where in the dark there appears to be a sheer drop which really was very unsafe.   


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:35:51
OMG me and James at work just starting reading up about it on the web - That man on fire is the most horrible part  :cry:
I then went from that to reading about the Lockerbie plane bombing and Im now in a right Tizz - I always do things like this - I get too curious then what I read upsets me  :cry: Lindas making me some tea


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:44:36
Did you ever watch The Land Before Time when you were younger JFW?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:50:17
Yes - why? Thats the one about the dinosaurs right? Its quite sad as I remember


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:54:20
We played there not too long after, it actually felt a bit intrusive being there for the game, very spooky, cant remember the exact sequence or time scales, but there seemed to be that, hillsborough, heysel, and Kings x in a shortish period, all bad.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:56:20
Yes - why? Thats the one about the dinosaurs right? Its quite sad as I remember

Yeah. Do you remember the dinosaur which used to go "yep yep yep" all the time? Think it was called ducky. Well the little girl who did the voice got shot in the head by her mentally ill father when she was 10.

I just thought I'd try and send you over the edge.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 09:58:56
not often i laugh out loud at internet forums, that did it though.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:12:33
OMG Ben - is that true????????? or are you winding me up?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:15:50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Barsi

Even says "yep yep yep" on her grave.

[url width=550 height=350]http://judithbarsi.dc-lundberg.net/img/judith_headstone.jpg[/url]



Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:18:50
OH MY LIFE!!!! :wacko: :yikes:

P.s just sent you a PM - did it work? kept getting an error message?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:19:55
yeah I got it.



Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:23:10
The story is horrible that poor little girl

Now theres breaking news on sky that a roof has collasped on a school!!! 


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:47:59
Think Stuart Mcall was actually playing in that match..now the Bradford manager,i can remember Port Vale was all wooden seating years back,can anyone remember the rickety old wooden stand behind Blackpools goal that was the away end...wonder when they will dget round to building a new one.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:55:55
Also the police got some terrible stick after Hillsbrough...but they were incredibly brave during this fire..staying to the last min and saving many lives...horrible video that.


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: sergeant_wilson on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 12:55:44
What was the score in this game?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 14:35:53
I remember that day very well, seeing events unfold on TV. Tragic.

While looking at clips about it on You Tube I also saw a clip of Miklos Feher dying on the pitch.
That too was shocking


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 15:03:58
Christ for some reason I googled that - horrific!!


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 15:09:17
I'm probably being ignorant here, and dont fancy googling it, who was he?


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 15:13:54
a hungarian footballer who had a heart attack and died on the pitch aged 24 - think it was in 2004 and he played for Lisbon

Dont watch it would be my advice!!!

This is kinda random but I was out for a meal with my boyfriend a couple of weeks ago and my boss was there with her husband and another couple and my boss had a kind of fit in the resturant and she stopped breathing for a while and had to be given CPR - luckily she came back to life and shes back at work now but it was scary as!!!!


Title: Re: bradford anniversary
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 15:15:04
Cheers I'll avoid that.