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Title: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:16:21
... and still made a top level career for themselves?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:20:49
Steve guppy was quite old i seem to remember.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Devon Nige on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:21:46
A great question
I think Tony Book was 28/29 when he signed for Man City.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Dazzza on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:22:38
Can't be right but Ian Wright, Wright, Wright was just shy of 22 when he signed pro forms at Palace straight from Sunday league.

Do you only want players straight from non-league to the top flight or can they have gone via a league club first?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:25:47
... and still made a top level career for themselves?

Tough question, because it all depends on your definition of professional.

Tony Book is the sort of answer you might be looking for...playing for Bath City, Malcolm Allison allegedly found him up a ladder, doing his day job, when aged about 29 he went to Man City, and captained them to the title and FA Cup.

We took Tony Gough, trying to follow the same template....it didn't work, quite so well.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Devon Nige on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:26:10
Dulwich Hamlet i think youll find Daz


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:30:05
Can't be right but Ian Wright, Wright, Wright was just shy of 22 when he signed pro forms at Palace straight from Sunday league.

Do you only want players straight from non-league to the top flight or can they have gone via a league club first?

I don't mind. Just something I was thinking about. It's not something I know the answer to.



Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:31:19
I know that Paul Bostock was in his 30's when he re-entered the Football League with Boston. He had played a limited amount of games for Cambridge United in the late 80's before disappearing from the Football League until 2001.

But the fact he had played in the FL as a youngster means that I'm wasting my time typing this :)


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Devon Nige on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:39:18
I don't mind. Just something I was thinking about. It's not something I know the answer to.


Still a very good question Ben and i think it could be Tony Book.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:40:04
Was Bostock a goalie?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:41:20
Was Bostock a goalie?

Yup.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:48:04
Was Bostock a baldy?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: nevillew on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:50:42
Was Bostik an adhesive ?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:51:21
Bastock was indeed a baldy.

http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/bazza1.jpg

... and still made a top level career for themselves?


There probably loads of players who made their top flight debuts in their 30's.

Book was early 30's when he joined Man City from Plymouth.

Ian Ashbee of Hull was 31. Wigan's Mike Pollitt was about 34 when he first played in the top flight.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:51:41
Wasn't stanley matthews 86 when he signed for stoke?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 18:52:25
He's still playing now isn't he?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:15:07
Wasn't stanley matthews 86 when he signed for stoke?

91


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:20:57
I believe he's oxfords right back now, lost a bit of pace after his 110th. But still far too good for them.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Anteater on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:40:10
Socrates ?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Dazzza on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:45:15
Andy Cunningham - Newcastle 1929 aged 39 fuck knows what league the stripey tarts were in that year though.

Good link here although it includes Johnny foreigners making their English league debut.

http://www.allfootballers.com/statsc.php?bid=oldestld


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:55:57
Socrates ?

 Good shout he'd have been about 2500 years old.  Mozart was turning out for Spartak Moscow until recently...he'd be a spring chicken at 200 and a bit.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Dazzza on Friday, May 8, 2009, 19:58:03
off topic but did anyone know about Frank Wong Soo (cracking name) the first "non-white" player to play for England?

Frank Wong Soo was the first player of Chinese extraction to play for England. Indeed, Frank was the first non-white player of any ethnic background to present England long before Viv Anderson, the first “official” black player, made his debut for England in 1979.   Frank was born in Buxton, Derbyshire, in 1914 and was the son of a Chinese father and an English mother.  He was one of the best inside forwards of the immediate pre-war era, certainly during his time at Stoke City, where he formed part of a legendary team that included players such as Sir Stanley Matthews and Neil Franklin. This famous trio played together in the England team that faced Scotland at Villa Park on 3rd February 1945.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Dazzza on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:02:43
Couple more:

Paul Wilson Scunny debut in 97/98 at 37 was the team's youth team coach!

Oldest player for to debut for England anyone?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:03:36
Leslie Compton (post-war)


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:03:54
off topic but did anyone know about Frank Wong Soo (cracking name) the first "non-white" player to play for England?

Frank Wong Soo was the first player of Chinese extraction to play for England. Indeed, Frank was the first non-white player of any ethnic background to present England long before Viv Anderson, the first “official” black player, made his debut for England in 1979.   Frank was born in Buxton, Derbyshire, in 1914 and was the son of a Chinese father and an English mother.  He was one of the best inside forwards of the immediate pre-war era, certainly during his time at Stoke City, where he formed part of a legendary team that included players such as Sir Stanley Matthews and Neil Franklin. This famous trio played together in the England team that faced Scotland at Villa Park on 3rd February 1945.

 Yep.

 A similar fella was Sammy Chung, an Abingdonian who overcome the misfortune of a handful of non league games for Headington in the 50's to forge a decent career for himself as  both a player and manager.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:27:18
Roger Miller was allegedly 42 when he scored a goal v Russia in the World Cup finals.

Not that this remotely answers the original question.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:45:18
He must have been older than that, i remember him singing on the des o connor show in the 70's the old beardy fucker.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: adje on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:47:50
He must have been older than that, i remember him singing on the des o connor show in the 70's the old beardy fucker.

Altogether-"I'm gonna leave old Durham Town..."


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 8, 2009, 20:50:20
I'm slurring along.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: leefer on Friday, May 8, 2009, 21:28:43
http://www.allfootballers.com/statsc.php?bid=oldest1stmatch


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, May 9, 2009, 13:25:06
Dulwich Hamlet i think youll find Daz

a ground built nearly under a sainsburys and pink and purple quartered shirt. that's a proper football team!


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 9, 2009, 18:40:01
Altogether-"I'm gonna leave old Durham Town..."
Bet he wishes he'd stayed with them now they've made it into Conference North. Is Daisy still playing for them btw?


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, May 9, 2009, 19:14:34
Yes he is.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 18:00:06
I saw Craig Brewster - 42 years young, play on saturday. Born the same year England won the World Cup.

Thats the oldest pro player Ive ever seen.

I think the answer to the original question is probably impossible to find out. Unfortunately.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 21:42:21
Didn't the Donacster Chairman register himself and then come on as a sub for the last minute of their last game in the Conference?  He was in his 50's or there abouts.  Not really a player but the record books would record it as such.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 19:18:34
That makes a mockery of football.

Look at all the football trivia he has messed up!

Of course if Roman Abramovich wanted to play up front for Chelsea for a season then I wouldnt argue against.


Title: Re: What's the oldest a player has started playing professional football...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, May 14, 2009, 08:09:41
I saw Craig Brewster - 42 years young, play on saturday. Born the same year England won the World Cup.

Dear old Kevin Poole has signed a new deal with Burton. Aged 45!

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