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Why do so many people want Dave Byrne out of the Club?

Surely if Danny Wilson's happy to keep hold of him, he must value his contribution?

I'm not bothered. 

Not being on a pro contract at the club I've no idea if he's any good as a coach or not.

he's a good assistant manager and an honest and forthright geezer

I've no problems with Byrne, never have either (I didn't want him as manager though).

I don't think there should be a clean sweep for the sake of it. As you say Hertha, if Wilson wants to work with Byrne then that's good enough for me.

I also didn't/wouldn't want him as manager.

If Wilson is happy with Byrne then fine but for me Byrne is a bit too cock sure of himself, I think he burnt his bridges when he thought he was in with a shout of the managers job and was cosying up to fan's to endear himself, and then didn't get it he changed tac sliding away.

He was part of the failed Malpas regime also.

as long as it is wilsons decision,rather than with a bit of leaning on by fitton then that's fine i reckon.
he doesn't seem to have done anything to deserve him getting the push

always believe that he is wanting the main job himself and tends to undermine the manager .. get the feeling Wilson has put him in his place a bit but Id still prefer as ex Legend as assistant/coach .. someone like Shaun Taylor

...and the basis of this feeling is?

mmm... a fatbury feeling.

....because he called our fans morons once - or something to that effect!!

True mind.

I think he is the coaching scapegoat. When we lose a few games it all 'he does nothing' 'he is a rubbish coach' despite the person who made the comment having never watched him coach ever.

When we win a few games no one makes any comment about them, then as soon as we lose....

Also, the fact Fitton is mega loyal to him for no real reason and makes every Swindon manager have a clause in his contract saying they have Byrne as assistant manager.

ummm, my actual point was - I have no problem with Byrne at all and I think he's a good assistant manager and well worth keeping.

byrne deserves some credit for some of the players he brought here too.

Personally Im not keen on him as a person - he comes across as billy the big head

But then again he seems to have faded into the background alot since Wilson came - Im keen for him to stay there really

I remember speaking to him at the pre season game against Salisbury. He was really excited about a youngster he'd got on trial who would make the club millions. Apparently Malpas offered the kid a derisory wage so he fucked off to Newcastle instead. The youngster was Nile (The Loan) Ranger.

Hi Ho Silver, Away!!!!

I thought he was restrained with that section of our fans, seems well liked by the players, and did show us Timmy's arse on saturday, byrne in.

He was really excited about the kid and did say to us he was an extremely exciting prospect IIRC and that he would make us £5mill in the future, Nile has turned out to be an OK prospect so yes he can spot a good player and in my opinion he deserves to be kept on as reserve team manager or youth manager at least for his loyalty and abilty to spot player.......werent Tozer and Morrison both products of his youth team at Plymouth? yes people will say it was Sturrocks youth team but surely Byrne had a fair amount to do with them coming to us.

From what I've read the kids who came in from Plymouth was all Byrne's doing.

macnamee was bascically his signing as well, or was at least on a list he game malpas. so was kanyuka although I'm less impressed by that

Also we got byrne to thank for signing simon cox as from i have hear if sturrock had his way we would of had simon church luckily he was pursuaded by byrne to go for cox

Eh?  Once more in English!

Sturrock was advised by db to sign cox instead of church from reading. Sturrock initially wanted church

:D:D:D

Bitch you know i am dyrlixic

Byrne always claps the fans, so he is alright by me :)

Byrne was brought to the club by Sturrock to oversee youth development. He decided against going back to Plymouth with him when the others jumped ship.  At least he has shown a bit of loyalty.

Who's Nile Ranger?  Has anyone mentioned this before?

I'm happy with Byrne staying, especially with Wilson's approval, he's done nothing in my eyes to warrant being kicked out. I have no idea how good he is on the training pitch though, who really does here?

Give the man a chance!

Wilson seems happy with him.

He clearly wants to be here, and he clearly wants to win.

I don't understand why anyone would want him to go? He hasn't exactly done anything wrong since Wilson took over has he? The big difference is that I think Wilson takes more of a front seat in training etc than Malpas did so Byrne is handy as number 2. He can fire players up and he has passion. Leave the tactics side to DW. Nice little combo.

I like Byrne, he always seems just as happy as we are when we win and he looks gloomy as fuck when we lose. A very passionate man who has brought some decent players to the club and from what I've heard is a pretty decent coach, wants to play the game the right way. Don't really rate him as a manager but as an assistant to Wilson I think he's alright. No reason to get rid.

I'd give him some sort of role overseeing scouting/youth development - like Newcastle gave Wise.  Most of our decent signings have come through him and all the decent youth prospects seem to have his hand in their signing as well.  If it's a talent he has, then we would do well to ensure it's harnessed long term.

Why not just let him do what DW wants him to do? If that's assistant manager, what's the problem?

Everytime I go on the adver site I see comments from people saying we should get rid of him and I can't really understand why.

Steve Steve Steve....why do you punish yourself by reading the shit comments on the Adver site, I have had to stop myself from reading the pathetic comments as it infuriates me endlessly!

Everyone likes a scapegoat, much better than Billy Goats

Can't help myself John, starved for entertainment down here.

Fair point...just dont take it out on your keyboard again as those keys were a bastard to replace last time ;)

Haha.

We could do with some more first team coaches first??!!!

That's a pretty good summing up imo.

I think the guy has passion about what he does and quite rightly enjoys seeing the fans enjoying the occassion and acknowledges that by going over and applauding them - I think people mistake this as him being a narsosist and only out for his own gain.

Disclaimer:  Dave, I would like to point out that this is my own opinion and not one that gained from information inside the club - just in case you read this ;)

Dave Byrne has undoubted passion for the club, or at least it certainly appears it to me anyway. when i was watching swindon reserves vs forest green reserves up at the new lawn about 5 months ago, i was sitting about 6 seats away from him and Malpas. Maurice was just sitting there and watching, while Byrne actually stoop up and had a shout at the players every now and then. For a neutral who didnt know anything about eitehr team, they would have undoubtedely thought that DB was the manager.

Budgie's efforts have helped the finances of the club, so it is no surprise that the board support him.  His ability to spot a good prospect is essential to the survival of a League 1 club.  Paul Sturrock recruited him, so he is highly rated at least for youth development.

How many first team coaches do you need.I would imagin DW does a lot of the coaching along with DB as his back up and by the way i have spoken to 1-2 of the senior players at the end of season do and they said that both are very good coaches and bounce off each other very well,if that is the case thats god enough for me.

Whats the disclaimer all about Tris?

Spot on.

 Crozzer, your avatar is ace...the slime covered block that used to adorn The Parade. I had a daily view of it at my first job after leaving school in the warehouse at Fine Fare supermarket, just about 17.

Was that outside Debenhams..then Bon Marche?

Yep...I quite like the idea of public works of art...its brutalist modernism, which inadvertently became covered in slime....definitely captured the zeitgeist.

We definately need a new goalkeeping coach.

As for more than that, its up to Wilson to say? Sturrock had 3 of his own backroom staff.

Totally agree SW

Why do goalkeepers need coaches?????

The only thing I see from the practice before the game starts is how to catch a ball from crosses and how to take goalkicks ... total waste of time.

A young keeper like mark scott im sure would be lost without a coach. these coaches have usually been there and done it, invaluable experience to a young keeper. as for older keepers, im not too sure myself why they really need coaches. im sure there is a reason, but its probably just so they dont forget the important stuff. pre match watm ups like goal kicks and catching crosses however, dosent seem like the sort of thing that is most needed right before kickoff. maybe having some of the players shooting at goal would be more appropriate. still, im not one to say as im not a keeping coach.

Really? That suprises me

For a time this season we had both keepers spooning the ball into the net every other week at the same stage of the season. Both quite highly rated keepers.

They key to football is getting the best out of what you have.

I think you are confusing the warm up with actual training?!

I have fond memories of it.  Soon after the opening ceremony, laundry soap was added, prompting foaming and a Points West film crew.  A bunch of ladies who would not look out of place in a Monty Python sketch played by Michael Palin, Eric Idle, etc., described in detail how Daz was put in it.  Not to be outdone, a lady from the back leaned over and proclaimed "and Omo, and Omo".  I remember being helpless with mirth.

The municipality didn't seem to think that a biocide added to the water might prevent the onset of a stained and slimy appearance.  This sorry looking piece of utter crap was a constant source of joy.

That's between me, DB and DRS ;-)

 Byrne is staying on then....

If Wilson and he work well together, that's great.

Given the turbulence at the club in recent times having, at least, a little continuity is no bad thing.

Agreed.

Agreed also.  But it is less fun.

So what will Byrne's role be then with Shirtliff coming in as ass manager ?

Perhaps a move back to oversee the youth's ?

Byrne is a youth coach, it would be brilliant to see him overseeing that again. His successes at Swindon has been regarding youth.

Agree Rich...hes done great with the youths.

could be the end of newton then?

Adver reports that he will have a new role overseeing youth development but he's on hols at the moment so they can't tell him.

Perhaps some role in charge of youth and overall responsibility for all age groups - but wasn't Jeremy Newton give some sort of role along those lines when he came over from center of exel ?

I'm sure in this day and age, with mobiles and the Internet he's fully aware of whats going on.

Hes being treated very shabbily.

IF what the Advertiser are stating is true.

I wonder where the story started, was it Tranmere? I'm guessing something got fucked up somewhere and it got in the press before they had actually finished the deal and sorted everything out. Still, there is no suggestion Byrne will be kicked out - he might even prefer the new role (and be aware of it) for all we know.

Of course its true.

Adver in "wrong end of stick due to half a story" shock!

It's (probably) true the Shirtliff's coming in but the Advertiser suggests that it's unknown to Byrne - which could well be a big ol' fabrication.

Tranmere didn't need to name names - I'm sure this has made it quite bumpy.

i reckon it's been a done deal for a while.stfc just didn't want it out yet.

I really cant see that Byrne did not know.

What you mean that the adver get things wrong ?

Surely not, surely the local journo's wouild be the ones on the proverbial ball ?

Probably found out on Twitter

Not the best way of finding out you've dropped down the pecking order.

I bet he feels a bit of a tit.

My feeling is DW made it clear that he would eventually get his own man,Budgie probably knew it was a matter of time...Fitton will make sure Budgies sorted for a good post at the club.

Will he still be involved in perches of players ?

Maybe he'll be on the lookout for talonted youngsters.

I'm sure he'll take them under his wing

I think he'd be aviary good appointment

I'm concerned this could sow the seeds of discontent amonst our more millet-ant fans

He's only in it for the cheap Trills

he sure will ruffle some feathers.and he is prone to flying off the handle

Trill-iant.

Oi, keep your beak out

Will Fitton face a large bill to get rid of him ?

shouldn't do, he's going cheep

Can hairy players improve now?

that's eggstreemly rude.

I expect he's finding this news very hard to swallow.

he does seem in a bit of a flutter

You people disgust me

you could always migrate elsewhere

Don't get your feathers in a flutter Spacey.

Need to be careful that he dosen't fly off the handle...he probably needs to have his wings clipped though

i think we have a couple of parrots here.

I've been doing some research on how to curse someone. If I can work out where to get some Cursing oil, you lot are doomed.

Just given it a curse-ory glance have you Spacey ?

Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crappy knees! Or something like that. That's it you're fucked now.

Genius Nev.

Like that.

Hex-actly!