Thetownend.com

http://www.qpr.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=150628

possible - funy things going on at Loftus Road though

original story./.... http://www.londoninformer.co.uk/london-sport/london-football/london-qpr/2009/04/09/qpr-line-up-bid-for-robins-hotshot-113489-23344495/

Clearly they have not done their research "cash strapped Swindon"

Still be a good move for Cox, possibly up and coming team, not too far from his home in Reading.

I think I am resigned he will leave now so as long as we get a good deal I dont care.

You know something the rest of us don't then Gazza?

If he's in our starting 11 for the first game of next season i'll run naked through the magic roundabout. Theres rarerly been a greater certainty in someone leaving

was gonna say Gazza, we're hardly flush are we, and the club isn't making money is it?!

ill quote that just in case, you really need to stop making these bets dave :)

I was going to do the same thing (quoting I mean, not a naked terrorisation of the poor Magic roundabout motorists)

Not flush but have a wealthy board etc. We are not exactly skint though are we?

We may be debt free but that doesn't mean we're not strapped for cash.

I think if Cox goes we will go down next season so it's almost worth going down this season, build a bit of momentum and come back up full of confidence next season (assuming we can come straight back up again), We will likely have a much difference squad so may take some time to gel as well... will be interesting to see how it plays out. How much do Rovers want for Rickie Lambert? Get 2.5 for cox offer 1M for Lambert :D

What a fucking daft thing to say - "If Cox goes we will go down next season" !

What utter bollocks !

Who is to say we are not going to get £2 Million for him that might be used purely to buy new players ?

I would rather have 6-7 new players that could possibly do a great job for us than trying to hold onto 1 player alone.....

But to say we are down next season without him is fucking tripe !

If the fee is £2m, STFC won't see £2m of it. Fitton will want some, Reading will be owed some etc...

You're right though. Saying Cox leaving will send us down is bollocks, as we have no idea what the team is going to look like next season

I notice people pick up IF COX GOES WE GO DOWN.... I said I THINK.... meaning me. My opinion.

It's still a bit of a silly thing to say though Gaz.

My outlook is that whatever we get for Cox, Wilson should hopefully get some of it to rebuild. I reckon just £100k would get us 2 or 3 good League One/lower Championship type players. That could be all we need to be a safe mid-table team next season.

It's more about wages than transfers.

Ok perhaps I should have worded it, if we sell Cox and don't get a decent replacement I think we will be down. Hence the reference to Lambert etc... (Not taht we would get him anyway) . Shrewsbury's Holt may be on the move as well!

Holt would be a good shout

When we sell Cox we should go and get that nippy little bloke from Hereford on loan from Man Utd, I was very impressed with him he gave our defence a hard afternoon, now what's his name, begins with B I think. Paynter and a nippy small striker would do well next year imo.

Fabien Brandy.

I didn't rate him at all......thought it seemed like having McNamee up top!

If true and if we begin negotiations begin the mentality should be "Fuck it, QPR are truly loaded, lets get over-the-odds for him."

;)

Whilst I was away last week the Mirror ran a little gossip piece saying that Mandaric is going to ive Pearson £2m to take him to Leicester in the summer, did that get picked up locally?

Sorry if it feels like pick on Gazza week, but I really loath this kind of statement. Going down would be a disaster and the risk of not returning quickly is significantly high.

QPr have sacked their manager :o

Yup, what a joke.

Cox to replace him?

I think we'll do better next season without Cox.

I was under the impression that the money is there if we need it and there is a good justification. Wilson obviously persuaded Fitton that he needed to bring in a few players on loan to keep us up, Fitton agreed and came up with the cash - at one point they were saying we had to offload players first (and that didn't happen).

Same for if there are players worth signing - if there were a full team of players as good as Cox available for £300k each then I reckon Fitton would come up with the cash. If Cox is sold the money will stay in the bank until Wilson can convince Fitton there is someone worth signing, we might spend none of it or we might spend more.

So basically, we're not strapped for cash but Fitton isn't willing to piss cash away either. Which is fine with me.

he was fucking awful.

Fabian Brandy wasn't it?

He's got 6 goals in just over 40 games at this level - we need a far better ratio than that.

Its a shame Pilkington went to Uddersfield. Along with Delph the best I've seen this season and for £500k a bargain. I know he played on the wing but could easily play central or just move big Billy up further.  

Although he doesnt seem to have scored many this season Andy Bishop has generally got alot of goals the last couple of seasons.

I'm not going to go as far as Gaz and to be honest im trying not to look past this season but replacing Simon Cox next season will be a huge ask.

....infact it'll probably be Barry Corr!

cox will probably be replaced by a nobody.just like he himself was and parkin too.
wilson should be monitoring prem youngsters,and i am sure he is

We are going to be in the market for a few strikers this summer yes?

Unless RAZAK makes the breakthrough before the season closes.

In fact I would quite like him to score the winner v Rovers.

A couple of people have mentioned Tom Craddock at Luton. I dont understand why such a promising youngster agreed a three year deal with club certain to be relegated, and since when do luton have £80000 to spend on a player. I wouldnt mind having a closer look at him.

Also, there is a kiddy, JAmes Norwood, who plays for Eastbourne Town who has had alot of big clubs sniffing, he would be dirt cheap and worth a trial, but obviously not an immediate solution.

At this moment in time, I'd take anyone to score the winner v the shirt batterers

You need to read the interview with fitton in Monday's matchday programme to find out the answers to a lot of unanswered questions on this thread...

Gazz, I have to disagree with you on two counts.

1. the board members do have money, but if you think they're going to thow any of it at the club, then you haven't been paying any attention. They want to get the club running on an even keel, not surviving on their own money.

2. If cox goes, we will have an excellent chance of doing very well next season. even if he goes for £1.5m, and after fitton takes his money back and reading take their sell on fee, that's still a lot of money to spend on players we haven't had for some years. cox cost £20ok, sam £50k, so why will we not buy decent players again? Have you not seen enough from Wilson's eye to not suggest he knows a good players when he sees one?

also bear in mind that there are going to be a lot of players out of ontract this summer, if we stay up and act early, and we already have transfer targets in mind, there's every chance we will have a very promising squad next year.

Good post Juddie, the board did make it clear that we would get the club that we could afford. Cox is gone - there is no doubt and giood luck to the fella. I'm more optimistic about next season than I am for the rest of this. Wilson should be able to get rid of a load of fucking dross we've been lumbered with. He'll also have had a full pre season and  other clubs of our stature will be in shit street. 

it's not rocket science. Fitton doesn't want Cox to go just as any of us don't, but if clubs are looking at him, and people are talking about £1.5m at least, then he's not stupid. what would you rather, keep Cox and shop around for bargains, or sell him for the highest price and build a shit hot suqad under a manager who knows what he's doing?
 
 The one thing everyone is forgetting here is whether or not cox himself wants to go. Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't.

Either way, we either keep cox and his goals, or we lose him and get a better team next year.

whatever happens, as long as we stay up, next season will be infinitely  better than this one IMO.

For Febian Brandy see Jo Kuffour. Skilful yes, but not what you need to get out of League One. There's a reason why he's on loan at Hereford...

I see a lot of him in the reserves for United and he is not strong/big enough.

The win-win situation for me would be to get 2M for Coxy before the end of June.

It'll be hopeless if he doesn't leave until the end of August as Wilson (assuming he's still here) will have little time to replace him/rebuild the squad.

I'd rather he stayed and we built a team around him, but I think I've just overdosed on Easter Eggs.....

Before it came out in the press, I posted about a week before that Cox was going to Leicester next season.
So the info I received was pretty good, now QPR have entered the arena, that might change things, Coxy would not have to up stumps for him and his family.

Don't think Coxy will go to a premier club, he has already stated he does not want to move to a bigger club just to keep the bench warm, same situation he had at Reading when they were in the Premier and he couldn't demand a regular squad place. If Reading do not go up this season, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they made a bid for him to return.

Cox pretty much said a couple weeks ago on Big league weekend 2, that he knows he can play at a higher level and wants to play at a higher level but its up to the 2 clubs to sort it out at the end of the season. Read into that what you will, but we knew that anyway. Best case is that he stays and see what kind of squad we have next season. if we are in or around the playoffs he may go up with us otherwise leave in January. Sadly I think he will be gone in the Summer its just a case of who to.

I don't buy programmes so won't know what is coming out..

I haven't said anything about the board throwing money at the club, what I was referring to is that because we actually have a valuable assett (Cox) we are not skint. He will be sold on eventually anyway, if we were "cash strapped" as the article says we would be actively shopping Cox, which we are not.

We do have a great chance of doing well, but we also have a chance as well as being pants. Paynter has played a lot better under Wilson IMO, but is never going to be a 20-25 goal scorer. MOST teams that do well have a good 20 goal average a season striker, admittedly our problems stem deeper than that, Midfield, Defence, Goalkeeping etc. I really hope that we can go into next season with a totally new squad with fresh ideas. I hope that like Malpas though we don't hang around and have to re-sign half the tripe we have now just to fill spaces. I think our squad next year depends how quickly we get out the starting blocks as you state and start replacing the shit players from this season. We have seen numourous threads about who should come/go etc.. I dare say there will be a bit of money to spend as well once the squad is reduced. Not massive amounts. In regards to Fitton he did say if he sees someone who we could sell on in the future we would buy them... Holt anyone to replace Cox? Although Shrews will likely be asking for a silly pricetag.[/quote]

But we are tight for cash because the owners aren't going to top up the money indefinitely. Watkins said in the paper the other week (think it was The Times) that they've lost money on advertisement/sponsorship deals and also on corporate hospitatility.

Fitton's said we will sell this year if the right offer comes along, but it is likely. Why on earth would he need to say that at the AGM if money wasn't tight?

I'd also like to say I am not moaning that Cox will be sold, he's turned out to be a good investment and I think he deserves more than us. If we can get a decent amount for him and put a decent amount back into the team we'll be better off on the whole.

You're right Si, I don't see it as a bad thing if Cox goes. We will have made money on him, and we can rebuild. We don't have to be a one-man team anymore.

"I don't buy programmes so won't know what is coming out.."
Well I suggest on this occassion you do! I had the pleasure of spending half an hour in his company, and he was fairly forthright on a number of issues.

"I haven't said anything about the board throwing money at the club, what I was referring to is that because we actually have a valuable assett (Cox) we are not skint. He will be sold on eventually anyway, if we were "cash strapped" as the article says we would be actively shopping Cox, which we are not."
I'll give you that, although the club is still not running on an even keel.

"We do have a great chance of doing well, but we also have a chance as well as being pants. Paynter has played a lot better under Wilson IMO, but is never going to be a 20-25 goal scorer. MOST teams that do well have a good 20 goal average a season striker, admittedly our problems stem deeper than that, Midfield, Defence, Goalkeeping etc."
Like I say, read what Fitton says. If we stay up him and Wilson already know the new spine they want.

If he has to go, I hope there are at least two clubs interested, & it starts a bidding war. IMHO, he is worth 2.5 million at least. Young 30 goal a season strikers are rare.
My understanding is that the board have the money, & will make it available if nessecary for the right player. Whilst I doubt that has changed in essence, I think the change in the economy, must make it a tougher. They have however always said that they want to run the club properly, with it surviving on it's own two feet.
Gordon Greer's extention to his loan deal was paid for by us the supporters though the Red Army Fund. The reason I say this is because whilst their is no doubt that we have some good guys in charge at SN1, it's also up to us the supporters to show support too.

good post Phil.

I think you will be seriously disappointed if you are expecting GBP2.5m for Cox.

Also, the board may have said in the past that they were willing to dig deep to splash money on players, but this was before we failed to hit 6k, and so the true potential of the club was revealed to them.

Cashflow is not necessarily concerned with the purchasing of players.

City bought Maynard off Crewe for £3 million so I don't see why we can't sell Cox for £2 mill plus.

Like Cox, Maynard is a good player, but I would warrant that the reason that he cost so much was because it was perennial panic-buyers Bristol City on the other end of the transaction.

Being realistic, £1.5m is what we'll get for him. A club record fee.

Eggsmackly. We wont get more than £2m for him

I thought the reported fee for Maynard was £2.2M. Not that it matters really, the best we can expect for Cox, IMO, is between £1.5M and £2M.

I thought we got that from Man City for Horlock?

We did - but it would still be a record fee, just shared ;)

But would it be though, if we have to pay a percentage to Reading?

That doesn't make the actual fee any smaller. Regardless, I think we can push for £1.5m+

Agree

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/4283945.QPR_to_make_summer_move_for_Cox/

Here it is in Swindon black and white.

Notice the distinct lack of quotes.
There goes another 'story by forum' then.

They'll need to bid more than 1 million.

I'd imagine that article is a load of bollocks and they've just stuck a figure on there to get people interested. Im with Strooooooooooooooooooooooooooood - Its basically a repeat of what's been said elsewhere, made to look like investigative journalism

I'm sure Cox could fetch £2m plus add-on's, there's enough clubs interested in him for us not to take the first offer but sit and wait for the right offer - and as we technically do not need to sell that makes him worth that bit more as well.

Tony Mowbury was in the crowd apprently

Really?

Probably fair to say that Cox won't be going to West Brom then.

I heard chris coleman of coventry also interested today

Yep and left 15 mins from the end according to Radio Swindon!

Cox was out of ideas today. Paynter certainly looked more up for it and did quite well I thought.

Coxy has tried his socks off all season, until - the last three or so games, it seems like he is just going through the motions now.

Farewell Cox for sure at the end of the season, all the best you have been a star.

Tony Mombray walked through the Legends with Andrew Fitton & then sat in the Directors Box with another bloke in a suit (agent possibly?)

Correction that was the executive lounge he walked through - got the names mixed up, I was in their at lunchtime

I'm not so sure. To judge Cox purely on the basis of today's game would be harsh. He had little service, no support when on the ball, and was crowded out by the defence every time he went near the box. The problem was that the rest of the team failed to take advantage of teh gaps that were left open by it.

Care to elaborate?

Pook to Annan ?


(please)

Malpas taking Yinka Casal....

I hope to fuck it isnt something to do with a certain Scots man called Gordon!

Brown ?

Easton.

Gin!

My guess is Brezovan.

But just tell TEF the rumour (as it reminds me that we're edging ever closer to "FACT - This is happening" rumour season).

Morrison to Everton

Which border are they north of?

Wessex/Mercia

watford

Pook to Rockall united please!

Sie,
Correct player.........wrong team!! go double the distance.

Morrison to celtic

Morrison to Hearts?

morrison to inverness Caley thistle

It'll be Everton

Morrisson would be mental to move,needs another couple of years yet, otherwise he'll end up like Lucas.

Should it be Casal, Pook, Peacock  etc etc to Morrisons

Even in the bargain bin, those 3 would gather dust.

If Morrison does go and we get a few 100k for him that goes back into the squad then it's a no brainer. There are plenty of average to good experienced league 1 defenders around that you could pick up in the current climate for alot less.
Morrison may be very good one day but at the moment he would be easily replaced so I'm not worried either way if he is off.

Morrisons class, we need to keep him. He quality at this age now so whats he going to be liek in a few years...even better.

Doesn't always work that way though does it....James Williams looked a really good prospect at 16, had fallen off the radar by 20.

Robin Hulbert looked a likely lad...he's still a pro about 10 or more years after making his debut for us, in which he's played approx 100 league games.

At one point we loaned him to Newcastle, when they were a CL club around late 90's.

Morrison to Carlisle?

The first club of forum-fav Lee Peacock of course

Played in the game Edwin Murray scored a cracker.

The most unlikely brilliant goal ever.

I shouted 'don't shoot' just before he shot...

Can you shout the same in the next few games?

Cox to WBA rumour surfaces again...must be a slow news day

"West Brom are leading the race to sign £1.5m-rated Swindon striker Simon Cox. (Daily Star) "

and then we could get Billy Clarke

Also linked with M'Boro

That was in the NOTW on Sunday.

My "sauces" have told me Crystal Palace is a likely destination ... and that Jerel could well impress his new bosses this Saturday

Saying in the local papers up here that palace are skint and will be bringing in free's only.

Cept the NOTW said Cox was " 1.2 million rated "
I personally wouldn't even talk about less than 2.5 million, after sell on clauses etc we need at least a mill to go back into the squad

At least a million on the squad? Are you mental

what,what,what Fatters? Meaning Jerel is moving somewhere? Forgive my ignorancisation - have I missed summat? Or are you saying "The Tower" (no longer "The Beast") is going to CP?

I think that when he said "this Saturday" he meant the Gas Heads

wasnt too clear (as this is a Coxy thread) .. I thought Palace a strange destination for Jerel as well - but if he is free and Palace are skint it actually makes sense

heard nothing about Coxy although Lambert is also rated at £1.5m and is expected to leave Rovers in the summer too

i took it to mean the gash are interested in ifil.

I'm old - I get confused - is it fish for tea?

I'd laugh if Ifil went to palace. I can understand them wanting to sign players on frees , but thats no excuse for signing players not nearly good enough for their level.

Fatbury obviously means buckingham palace

Didn't his brother used to play for them? Perhaps he put in a good word.

Fatbury's initial rumour alluded to Ifil going to Wovers... now he's saying it's Palace. I'm lost.

Hull are apparently interested.

I'm really lost now Jerel to Hull?

No, Pook to Hull.

check

Rod hull

Pook to Cox?

Oxford or Cambridge then.

Jeez, I had a beer at lunchtime.  That and this thread have just screwed my bonce up!

Fatbury to Hull?

Cox to Hull!

Thanks for clarifying that.

:nonono:. 

I am Rod Hull!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQsRClW77_4&feature=related

Don't you shake you head at me!

News flash from the all knowing Wikipedia here guys....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Cox_(footballer_born_1987)

Swindon

On 31 January 2008, Cox moved to Swindon on a full-time basis..........

............Cox signed a pre-contract agreement after passing a medical for Huddersfield Town on the 21st April 2009 at their Storthes Hall training ground. The fee remains undisclosed, but is thought to be in the region of £1,000,000.

Huddersfield + £1m = Bollocks  ;)

I flat out refuse to believe that, wiki is shit eh?

Just remember Sheena Easton.

Probably some 15 year old Huddersfield fan who heard a bollocks rumour of somebody who doesn't know what they're on about, took it as fact, and decided to tell the world. £1m is nowhere near enough, and I'm not qure he'd want to go to Huddersfield. It's not a massive step up, and its a fair old way oop North

Whoever it was couldn't work out references.

No chance, with championship clubs interested and we wouldn't sell him to a L1 club either

Agree....Championship for Cox.

Own up...

Sounds right to me.

What other flavour Skips are there FFS?

Someone posting from 81.105.171.178.

Bacon and...cheese, I think.

not anyone on here

Wow I've missed those

"All moves however, appear to be on hold after cox developed an allergy to Grass and Footwear. It's thought to be so sever that he may have to play out the rest of his career in Africa with National side Umbongo believed to have offered Swindon Town fc an Impala on a swap deal - Swindon have rejected this as they already have Anthony MacNamee who's also very fast but rubbish."

Ha. Has to be someone from here.

You really haven't. Not a patch on the originals.

It sounds like Ben, but he'd be able to spell severe.

West Brom boss Tony Mowbray will increase his efforts to sign Swindon striker Simon Cox, who is also a target for Derby, Leicester and QPR. (The Sun - BS)

They are just rehashing the same old shite aren't they! Could they not be a bit more imaginative!

We''l see the Umbongo fc rumour tomorrow no doubt, if they are up to their normal research standards.

Cox was on BBC RWS earlier and was pressed on what his plans were. Started off by saying "it's not always down to the player" and ended up conceding that if a good offer came along he'd be silly not to go. Which is what we know anyway.

Regardless he didn't really come across as the big I am, and was more concerned about tomorrows game.

They also sought the opinions of a Mr R Tuck n'all.....

.

I feel sorry for him have an severe grass and footwear allergy! :)

in tomorrow's programme he says he wants to stay, but that sometimes a club has to take an offer if it comes along.

I don't agree with his statement on that at all. If a bigger club comes in, with more money and increase his career chances will he want to stay then??!

Are you calling him a liar?

Guess I am.

When a player says he wants to stay its an old cliche. He'll stay if no club/offer attracts him, but if he fancies his chances he'll move.

Does he talk about the grass/footwear problem? Or are you programme types hiding the shocking truth from your readers? :)

I think the way he's saying he wants to stay could be because he believes if teams hear that he doesn't want to leave, then they will pay up more to STFC, but also offer coxy more than what they already have planned.

Quote from Skysports regarding Mowbray watching Cox against Orient -

Firstly, Mowbray has run the rule over Swindon's promising young forward Simon Cox.

He said: "The day I went to watch him they got beat 1-0 by Leyton Orient and he didn't influence the game much.

"You are assuming he is the player I went to see. I didn't walk around with a big sticker on my forehead saying 'I am watching Simon Cox'

"I understand the boy Cox has scored lots of goals. I wasn't impressed on the one day I saw him and yet the game before, when a member of my stafff watched Swindon play at Northampton, he scored a hat-trick.

I'm sure Cox is in no hurry to leave, this is his first full season and he has done well go elsewhere and it is unknown territory and Swindon have ambitions for next season (assuming we survive in L1) as well, and have now got a decent manager but obviously if a top Championship team comes in for him and the deal is good for both sides then he will obviously want to realise his ambitions and move on like any other player.

I'm sure that Cox will sign a new contract as well if he is still here in the summer.

I just wish Mowbray would either put up or shut up about Cox, he is either interested or he's not, remember he is under contract elsewhere, would he be happy with premiership teams talking about his players ?

Let Cox go.

Adriano has been released by Inter :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I reckon it will be West Brom - their top scorer this season has a grand total of 6 (SIX) goals.

It will be a good move for him as well, likely to be their main striker and they're bound to be at the top of the table.

I'd agree, but West Brom would surely be targeting a return to the Prem straight away - I can't see Coxy being that prolific in the Prem, personally.  If he was to be the main striker, then I would expect it to be in the Championship and probably a bit part in the Prem.

He's off to Athletico Madrid

Did you know that Raul was on Atletico Madrid's books as a youngster?

They released him.

i think cox will end up like parkin.

on the scrap heap

I didnt realize reading get 40 percent of any fee for cox

Who told you that...cant see it being that much.

Who ever the other commentator was today with ed mentioned it  i think it was phil king

Best keep him then!

i did!

so did I, its one of those things that commentators always mention

did you know 10 years ago Hull City were in the bottom division?

Bristol Downs Football League Division Four?

West Brom are poised to move for Swindon striker Simon Cox, who is also wanted by Celtic (News of the World)

He would prob do alright in the SPL, with it being a shit standard

Good for selling shirts - parents won't mind his name replacing Vennegoor of Hesselink!

:D

Remember when Invincible was linked to crazy teams like Sporting Lisbon and then ended up at Kilmarnock

Where the fuck was it that Dave Mitchell ended up at again? Some random Turk club wasn't it?

Izmir.

Was it PSV Eindhoven as well??!!

What was his agent on?

I read somewhere Mowbray had said he'd been put off him, good move for him if it is the baggies he goes to. Don't think going to Scotland would do him any favours, their top-flight football is only a small step-up from our division, its getting better though.

C'mon! Say what you want about the SPL because it isn't great but a move to Celtic would mean Champions League football for a start!

But obviously that rumour is probably rubbish.

Suppose your right, i forgot about Europe :-[.

If he doesn't want to play the premiership yet, he shouldn't want to play in Europe.

Mowbray said sometihng along the lines of Cox is a player WBA have been watching. When Mowbray went to watch him personally he didnt play well and didnt get a sniff (against Leyton Orient) but when one of the WBA scouts watched him he scored a hat trick.

Did someone see Razak score a hat-trick :)

In our reserves wasn't it. Hasn't proved himself in the first team though. So theorectically, Mowbrays scout saw Cox get a hat-trick, and to sign him up would be stupid 'cause he'l be like Razak and not be very good in the baggies first team. So they should let him stay here. :D

Yes, I did....

Prior to the trial game.

Will Celtic be comming back for Alan Young as well?