Title: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: michael on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 22:40:39 ...given that he has been been given the enormous honour of wearing the captain's arm-band, and therefore gets to write a column in the match-day magazine?
Also, is he the best captain of the season so far, and are his columns more insightful than Hasney's were? Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: DV on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 22:45:17 ....right, i'm going a bit football manager here so stay with me.
GG is out of contract in the summer, yes? Doncaster as far as we are aware have not offered him a new contract? Surely we can sit down and offer him something now?...then obviously the contract starts once his current one at Doncaster finishes? If that is the case then why have we not offered him anything yet. Strike while the iron is hot and all that... Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: michael on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 22:47:35 Yeah but what about his column though?
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: DV on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 22:48:23 I havent bought a program since 1999.
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: michael on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 22:51:09 Not very loyal then. That is fine.
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 23:20:16 I hope he feels obliged to stay with us. I really rate the guy and I'm sure Morrsion does as well. With him and Vincent at the back I feel a lot more confident.
Also if we do sign him we can pay up that useless, gutless cunt Aljofree. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Talk Talk on Saturday, March 21, 2009, 23:34:40 Greer was ace today.
In fact all four suites. If he was a poker hand I would have bazillions of chips. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 00:07:24 ....right, i'm going a bit football manager here so stay with me. GG is out of contract in the summer, yes? Doncaster as far as we are aware have not offered him a new contract? Surely we can sit down and offer him something now?...then obviously the contract starts once his current one at Doncaster finishes? If that is the case then why have we not offered him anything yet. Strike while the iron is hot and all that... We're not allowed. With British (or English not quite sure) based contracts, you can only jump in and sign someone on a pre-contract one month before the old one expires. So if his deal is up on the 1st of June the earliest we could try and nab him would be May. If he was playing for someone like Lyon we could could pre-contract sign him in January as the transfer system for EU based players is different i.e 6 months before. Hope that all makes sense. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 00:08:34 but you can do it on football manager 09???????????
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: DV on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 00:11:53 We're not allowed. With British (or English not quite sure) based contracts, you can only jump in and sign someone on a pre-contract one month before the old one expires. So if his deal is up on the 1st of June the earliest we could try and nab him would be May. If he was playing for someone like Lyon we could could pre-contract sign him in January as the transfer system for EU based players is different i.e 6 months before. Hope that all makes sense. can we not offer him a pre-pre-contract? Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Barnard on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 09:01:32 Greer is unlikely to commit to anything with us until he knows what division we're going to be in next season.
He's shown during this loan period that he'd be an excellent signing for a league 1 side, and unless we were going to offer him silly money he's going to want to play at this level as a minimum. Wilson's making all the right noises, and giving him the armband and the Captain's column in the programmed is a pretty clear statement of intent to Greer that if he stays he's going to be intergral to the team. Until we're clear of relegation I don't think we can expect any progress. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 09:07:16 Greer is ace, That is all!
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Luci on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 09:12:56 He has turned our season around - hope we stay up and we can keep him - gotta offer him at least 2 years minimum though as hes still only 28 isnt he?
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Bennett on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 09:47:33 but you can do it on football manager 09??????????? but that's only with non english contracts Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: michael on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:34:14 Interestingly GG has now played more games for us than he has for Doncaster Rovers.
Sign him up. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:14:14 Greer is unlikely to commit to anything with us until he knows what division we're going to be in next season. Spot on! Treat someone with courtesy and respect. Empower them and allow them to take extra responsibility. Praise them and show them you value their contribution. Give them a bit of extra money when you can (ie I think you get more money for captaining the side). All good management principles.He's shown during this loan period that he'd be an excellent signing for a league 1 side, and unless we were going to offer him silly money he's going to want to play at this level as a minimum. Wilson's making all the right noises, and giving him the armband and the Captain's column in the programmed is a pretty clear statement of intent to Greer that if he stays he's going to be intergral to the team. Until we're clear of relegation I don't think we can expect any progress. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: janaage on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:44:52 I think Greer will come here in the summer, can see him come along to the last game of the season too, don't think Donnie would stop him coming along, to support the lads, if we're still in trouble.
I did hear an interesting bit of info yesterday though, Villa, Boro and Newcastle are all sniffing around Coxy, apparently Middlesborough are favourites as it stands. We've had numerous scouts here over the last few weeks, had it confirmed Garry Parker's currently scouting for Villa and has been at 7 Town matches recently. Have to say I'd expect some of the scouts must be here to watch Morrison too, wouldn't have thought they're all here for Cox. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: michael on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:50:08 Derby County have watched Cox at least 5 times this year as well.
If an EPL club comes in then that'll only push the price up surely? Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:50:21 I think Greer will come here in the summer, can see him come along to the last game of the season too, don't think Donnie would stop him coming along, to support the lads, if we're still in trouble. I did hear an interesting bit of info yesterday though, Villa, Boro and Newcastle are all sniffing around Coxy, apparently Middlesborough are favourites as it stands. We've had numerous scouts here over the last few weeks, had it confirmed Garry Parker's currently scouting for Villa and has been at 7 Town matches recently. Have to say I'd expect some of the scouts must be here to watch Morrison too, wouldn't have thought they're all here for Cox. If thats the case if we are to lose him hopefully we'll benefit from a bidding war......if Maynard went to City for 2/3 million then we should be looking for at least that now even with the recession hitting. Cox should and hopefully will be our biggest ever transfer fee received. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:15:42 I think Greer will come here in the summer, can see him come along to the last game of the season too, don't think Donnie would stop him coming along, to support the lads, if we're still in trouble. I did hear an interesting bit of info yesterday though, Villa, Boro and Newcastle are all sniffing around Coxy, apparently Middlesborough are favourites as it stands. We've had numerous scouts here over the last few weeks, had it confirmed Garry Parker's currently scouting for Villa and has been at 7 Town matches recently. Have to say I'd expect some of the scouts must be here to watch Morrison too, wouldn't have thought they're all here for Cox. joe jordan was at the southend game, although he may have been watching dorian dervitte. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:17:22 Going back to Greer, I would be delighted if we got him permanently. He's a leader, he's brave, he looks out for his team mates, seems intelligent as well. The club has suffered terribly from a lack of leaders, but this MAN is one. Please sign on!
Hopefully we can hold out as long as possible in the summer for Coxy, because the bids will get bigger and bigger. He is a genuine Championship player. Morrison on the other hand could well be the 3rd time weve mugged off a Premier League side with someone who is not going to be good enough for top flight football. Dont get me wrong, I think he could be a really good League 1 defender, but he will never be fast enough for top flight. Its sad for these players like Tozer and Jutkiewicz as much as for us, because they go away to play reserve football for their own clubs until they are 25 which is an awful waste. But we cant turn down the £££. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:19:39 How olds Morrison? 17? I know theres a long way to go, but some of his performances recently have been nothing short of top class. He's a much better prospect than either lukas or tozer
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:25:52 turned 18 in january. completely agree though, he is lightyears ahead of tozer in particular and has impressed in a struggling side leaking goals - lukas had the benefit of playing in a team on the up.
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Berniman on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:34:10 Going back to Greer, I would be delighted if we got him permanently. He's a leader, he's brave, he looks out for his team mates, seems intelligent as well. The club has suffered terribly from a lack of leaders, but this MAN is one. Please sign on! Hopefully we can hold out as long as possible in the summer for Coxy, because the bids will get bigger and bigger. He is a genuine Championship player. Morrison on the other hand could well be the 3rd time weve mugged off a Premier League side with someone who is not going to be good enough for top flight football. Dont get me wrong, I think he could be a really good League 1 defender, but he will never be fast enough for top flight. Its sad for these players like Tozer and Jutkiewicz as much as for us, because they go away to play reserve football for their own clubs until they are 25 which is an awful waste. But we cant turn down the £££. I think his pace has improved bigtime this year! He outpaced Brandy a number of times yesterday and earlier in the season had a one on one with another pacey player (can't remember who it was) that he was not expected to stay with and he was actually faster than him. Bearing in mind he is only 18 and is improving game by game I think he could make it in the Prem, maybe not top, but I think he is capable of getting into a Fulham, Hull type side. Not for a good 4/5 years though and assuming that he keeps improving as he is! Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:41:58 Greer reminds me a lot of Calderwood, calm collected, good talker, good captain, passes simply and rarely kicks it into touch unless needed, I hope we sign him on.
Morrison has a lot more ability IMO than Tozer and hopefully will go from strength to strength with Greer alongside him, a much better option that Ifil and with shedloads of potential, hes gonna be a good un, maybe not premiership but certainly Championship level...if he continues to progress for the next few years as he is now. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:56:58 Provided we stay up I'm sure he'll be staying, probably a good chance even if we go down. The fact that Doncaster let him go whilst they were fighting a relegation battle says they don't want him and I haven't heard about any other clubs being interested. So I can't see him turning us down unless a Championship side makes him an offer.
It would be worth us making him the best offer we can, partly as he's been playing well but also as he seems the perfect partner to help Morrison develop further. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: janaage on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 13:31:27 joe jordan was at the southend game, although he may have been watching dorian dervitte. yeah I saw Joe on Tuesday, he walked past into the Arkells, so I said to the young lad on the door, was that Joe that just went in there, cos I need to have a word with him, fair play to the lad, cos he said if you need a word mate just go through, gutted that I bottled it and said nah you're alrught mate. I only wanted to thank him for the penalty v Wales in the 80's. With regard to Morrison I disagree about his pace, think at 18 years old he reads the game well, and don't think he's that slow at all. If he continues at this rate I'd be surprised if he doesn't go up a level in the next two years. The premiership is not just a dream for him, massive prospect. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: juddie on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 22:04:15 I heard Fulham and Sheff Utd for Cox... sorry to change the subject!
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 22, 2009, 23:28:30 I heard Doncaster will swap Greer + cash for Cox.
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: santasdead on Monday, March 23, 2009, 00:03:43 I heard Doncaster will swap Greer + cash for Cox. if greer is out of contract,then any deals for cox would have to be done seperately,so we should get greer (on a free/unattached) and a full whack of dough for cox - unless they want to pay high prices i cant see them getting him ahead of the prem teams. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: deltaincline on Monday, March 23, 2009, 00:28:05 If thats the case if we are to lose him hopefully we'll benefit from a bidding war......if Maynard went to City for 2/3 million then we should be looking for at least that now even with the recession hitting. Cox should and hopefully will be our biggest ever transfer fee received. Good shout, Glos robin. One or two cunts waded into me a few months back for daring to suggest that Cox is worth at least a couple of million. Most were saying that he's worth 500 - 750k at best, the pricks. The credit crunch means fuck-all to the premier league sides at the moment and Sky will be literally fucking millions into them again soon, so the likes of Fullham, Everton and Boro (if they stay up) and possibly Sunderland, Stoke, Hull etc will be looking for promising and cheap(ish) prospects like Cox to get them 15+ goals rather than spend megga bucks on foreigners or half-proven journeymen. Also the newbies to the prem next season will all be looking for hot prospects. Fitton and the board ain't going to let him go for fuck all after the season he's had with us. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: jonny72 on Monday, March 23, 2009, 01:37:59 I'm still surprised that one of the teams involved in the relegation battle in the Premier League didn't take a punt on him in the transfer window for a couple of million. Sure he'd be a risk, but for that kind of money I reckon it would have been worth it as his goals could have made the difference.
I don't see the point in us letting him go for a million in the summer, especially as Reading will take a chunk of it. Even if he doesn't sign a new contract we could still offload him on the cheap in January unless we're at the top and chasing promotion. Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: glos_robin on Monday, March 23, 2009, 08:40:30 The second best case scenario for Cox (behind him staying with us) would be that he does a Mildenhall and signs a new contract with us and then we sell him. Fitton seems to think he's a good young professional so I don't think him signing a new deal is completely out of the question.
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, March 23, 2009, 09:30:13 Here's another I heard: AC Milan
Title: Re: Does Gordon Greer feel obliged to stay with us... Post by: juddie on Monday, March 23, 2009, 10:13:54 at least if we are to lose him, he's banging the goals in. Every goal he gets adds another bit in to his price tag - I wouldn;t mind selling him if, as the others have said, we get 1.5 mill or more. You could rebuild the whole team for a mill.
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