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its probably pointless but I’d advise anyone who was disgusted by the copper punching the young Swindon fan in the face repeatedly after Saturdays game for what seemed to be no reason, to call 0845 6060606 and register a complaint about what you saw. If nothing else I’m sure it will help the kid who may have got arrested for nothing, or anyone getting arrested in the process of sticking up for him, from getting a criminal record.

What is that number?

Telephone 0845 6060606 for non-emergencies where police attendance is required, to report a crime or to report any other incidents

got that off the west workshire police website.

didn't the lad tried jumping over to the Leeds fans?

No need for the police to get involved, they would have thrown him back!!!

nope there was a little bit of shouting at each other from what i saw and that was it, even so i dont think it warrants a big copper of 6foot something punching a young lad in the face several times. i've rang up but havent got very far so i'm just going to fill in this form and send it off, see what happens. http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/files/docs/complaint-form.pdf

nothing will get done though but i'm bored on a sunday

You're bored so you are going to file a complaint that will waste tax payers money investigating something that by the sounds of it was due to the person being stupid and trying to incite violence? Nice!

What ever happened to the world that I grew up in where if you acted like a twat you invariably got a twatting then got up and got on with your life?

NMH

That'll teach him,you dont fuck with Yorkshire OB

Didn't really see what the lad did but the copper looked pretty fucked off about it.

fucking 25th anniversary of miners strike and you start fucking around with yorkshire police, did you not need any more a reminder on how they dont fuck about?

fair play to the copper.should have took his truncheon to him

I didnt see the incident obviously but lets be honest, if he was getting a beating its probably because he did something to warrant one.

Police dont just pick a random person and beat him.

the lad done nothing wrong Dan, the police were heavy handed.

He must have done something to be singled out.

I find that very hard to believe.

I thought the police were a bit heavy handed, but the kid didn't exactly go quietly when they tried arresting him. I suppose the coppers would call it 'reasonable force'.`

I remember what the Police were like at Mansfield the day we won Div 4.
IIRC that was during the Miners Strike, and the bastards were slapping people around left, right & centre for no apparent reason.  Other than the fact that there was a lot of us & we were singing a lot.

Never underestimate the capability of the Old Bill to give someone a kicking for No reason.
Especially someone who looks like they won't put up much of a fight.
It saves them having to pick on some big bastard who might just give it back.
(End of Rant)

They don't tend to do it for no reason whilst being filmed though.

Mex most of the Bill were from elsewhere my mates from the City and the Met earned as much for that as they did in a normal year (yes, I twatted the pair of them in the reconstruction of the Battle of Orgreave)

The lad may well have done something to warrant being singled out, even nicked. But it doesn't necessarily follow that merits being repeatedly punched in the face. I didn't see what kicked it off, but from where I was stood it looked like they were smashing his head into the wall. Which is a bit on top, tbh. But then I don't know what he did - if he took a swing at the copper, for example, then whether the force used was excessive or not, he was certainly asking for it. If all he did was have a go at the Leeds fans, then it was well OTT.

I think you will find the camera (which is theirs) has no film in it if at any point there is incriminating evidence.

FWIW I don't think they are as bad as they were 15-20 years ago, when giving football fans a kicking was just seen as a good sport. 
 
A bit like fox hunting for the rich :)

Unless your black.

which wouldnt be random then?

My experience in the early 90s at QPR didnt actually happen then DV? Only that bastard had a dog as well.

Coppers are like football fans....lots of nice ones and some utter Cunts.

I dont defend hoolys and i wont take Coppers standing up for the Cunts in their ranks either.

I saw the lad gobbing at Leeds fans who were doing the same...the copper pushed him and he pushed him back...mistake IMO ,you should never strike or hit a copper.
However Copper went apeshit and jabbed him a few times.

I couldnt really see if the Copper had been hit first in the melee so cannot comment if:
 A. He was right in giving the yob a smack.
B. Over reacted in his attempt to detain a minor.
Either one of the above is correct and there should be consequences for either party when proven.
It pettered out but could of got alot worse.

My only complaint is that there didnt seem to be any police on the Leeds side of the partition allowing the Leeds fans to walk 300 yards to hurl abuse.
CORRECTION - there were two old bill on the Leeds side with the Camera who then decide to cross to the Swindon side to get better coverage (If the Copper is in the wrong i am sure the coverage will be 'lost')....so even more Leeds fans ran to the barrier.
The kids old man was in a hell of a state and was taken to one side by a copper at the gates ...he said his son was 15 and had been punched in the face by a policeman.

Maybe we will find out what happened...one way or tother.

I thought the Stewards were ok at Leeds.

It always better if you can stand at the match especially if you are at the back but i didnt think they were heavy handed or Wankerish like the pricks at Swansea and that fucking jobsworth at Brighton. Most Leeds fans were sat down too.

I wasnt there. But the young Swindon fan obviously was being a cunt, probably about to jump the barrier and attack the Leeds fans, probably had a knife or a gun and was probably about to murder the police officer.

So the steward was right to strangle him, whilst the police officer punched him 3 times in the face and then smashed his head into the wall.

Basically other Swindon fans are shite on the shoe of society, and you shouldnt waste LEEDS (cunts) taxpayers money by wasting 30 seconds of a police officers precious time reading a complaint. After all, he will only have had a proper beating, spent the night in the cells, and be back up to Leeds for a court appearance.

Not worth two shits other Swindon fans.

Mex will tell you, last year up there we had 2 lads with us, who didnt know where the minibus was, so they waited for us outside the ground. The police told them to move, they said they were waiting for us. Got arrested for some sort of loitering charge, and they beat the shit out of them in the back of the meat waggon. He showed me the bruise on his head and it was like a fucking golf ball where they kicked him in the head. And you can all fuck off with 'he must have been doing something' because the charges were dropped.

All the Leeds fans were outside there saturday, laughing gloating. Which is why when I saw one of my mates mouthing off back I knew that I had to get him out of there because otherwise it was only going to go one way.

I fucking hate Leeds, I hate their fans, I hate going there and I hate their police.

So if you enjoy a bit of banter between fans (and if you like football then you should because its brilliant) and I saw a Yorkshire police officer repeatedly punching you or your teenage lad in the face for mouthing off maybe I wouldnt try and help you or maybe I would.

If the lad pushed the copper back, he was asking for a slap. But for a grown man to hit a kid repeatedly in the face, and smash his head into a wall, that's just a fucking coward and a bully. He should be ashamed of himself but I suspect that kind of scrote, copper or no, lacks the capacity.

I was about 10 feet away from the incident. It actually started BEFORE the copper arrived. The lad was on his way out, but waving over the wall at the Leeds fans.
Next thing, a steward on the OTHER side of the wall was pulling on the strings on the bottom of the lad's hoodie, pulling him over the wall and towards him.

Next, a huge black steward and a copper pile down the stairs, against the flow of people leaving their seats and causing panic. The copper grabbed the lad by the neck, and the steward on the other side still had hold of him too. By now the lad was crying and he couldn't move. A guy from in the row in front of me very calmly got involved and had his arm round them both and was trying to reassure the lad.

I have to say, I didn't see the copper banging the kid's head as some people have said - although the lad was kind of stuck across the wall as he was being held on both sides of it.

Anyway, next thing, another copper piles down the terrace, with his truncheon in the air, knocks me and a kid to the ground and puts his arm round the second guy's neck and drags him up the terrace. Then a guy in a suit arrived - Head of Security I should think - and as I got up off the ground I lost my rag, told him and the steward that they were bullies and a fucking disgrace.

Strange thing was, the steward and the Head of Security bloke were just outside, several of us shouted at them that they were bullies - and they looked rather sheepish and embarassed about it all.

I rang them and they completely weren’t interested and fobbed me off telling me to write, so I filled in the form and e-mailed it through. On reflection I realise what I have done is totally pointless and the tape is just going to go missing and I don’t quite understand why I have bothered. But when I woke up this morning I was still seething with what I saw.

What pisses me off 100 times more is the fucking morons who have posted replies to this. I’m not going to beat around the bush and just tell you that you truly our either cunts, very very naive and stupid or perhaps a bit of both. I totally agree with every thing Spencer_White has said.

Fuck football fans, we're the scum of the earth and deserve everything we get

Did that little outburst make you feel any better?

What replies have fucked you off?

Most of us admitted that we hadn't really seen what had happened, but that there was probably a reason why he had been singled out - which there was, and that the reaction from the stewards and police was too strong and unwarranted.

yours that says 'he must have done something wrong' and the ones saying 'i find it hard to believe' the police were just heavy handed.

what did the lad do wrong then axs to warrant being punched in the face? or even arrested for that matter?

You are mis-quoting me, I didn't say he did anything wrong - I said he did something to be singled out for attention - I can't tell you exactly what this was because as I said I did not see the incident close up but other accounts on here suggest he was interacting with the opposition fans, which the steward has reacted / overreacted to.

I am not for one moment condoning the actions that followed on the part of the stewards or police, whether the kid pushed  / hit the copper or not.

I have to admit, I didnt see the lad get his head banged against the wall, that was something Paul said.

But I did see the black steward with his hands around the boys neck. And I did see the copper punch the boy (in tears) 3 times in the face, proper hard punches.

Strikes me that some people sit behind a computer screen for 18 hours a day, dont go and then assume they are always right. And axs, whats the point in saying who's fucked who off? It doesnt matter.

The point is we are all Swindon fans and people could have some respect? To be honest I felt the same way about some of the posts on here after Brian Hillier died.

he and god knows how many other swindon and leeds fans as well....no reason to even be singled out.

i think you've taken what i said as a personal insult axs, I’m simply talking about the deluded naive nature of some of these posts that’s pissed me off.....do you people live in the real world?

i posted on a leeds forum this morning which reading red appears to have found as well. As much as I do hate leeds fans, the replies from their fans show what people with a fucking clue would think.

Reason I asked is because I was being called a cunt, I wanted be clear on how I had offended someone.

Do you have a link to it, I would be interested to read it.

Bottom line is there's no excuse for three or four grown men, whether stewards/coppers or just cowardly pricks out to get their jollies by picking on kids to repeatedly punch a kid in the face and smash his head into a wall. That's just wrong, in any context

If you're going to start chucking insults about just because you dont like the replies you get on an internet forum i'd argue that you're the niave one.Id have to say ive some sympathy with your point,lots of us have made the probably incorrrect assumption that matey was probably asking for it.

Maybe I am naive.....naive to think that our fans would believe each other and stick together rather than assume that the authority figure was in the right and blame our own fans, despite it seeming unbelievable.

Seems we have more support from our Yorkshire rivals than some of our own fans with this one, pretty embarrassing really.

I’m not ‘chucking insults about’ as I’m not the sort of person to get into a stupid argument over the internet. But I’m of the opinion the sort of person who finds it hard to believe this sort of thing would happen is a bit of a cunt and very deluded and I’ve expressed that opinion.

The bit about writing a letter because you were bored on Sunday was the bit I picked up on. Sounded more as if you were anti-establishment rather than doing it because of an injustice.

Thing is stevecollins lots of the people on here will have been going to football for decades without ever having had any bother from the Police, where as they will more than likely have seen many a young lad giving it large and thinking they're untouchable because they are part of a crowd so its not really that hard to understand when people initially come down on the side of the policeman.Im not saying that is right,but it is a fact.

Thats about what i saw, kid in tears taken up the stairs, whilst another lad took a bit by the steward further down the terrace. Didn't see what provoked such a reaction or what had happened to the lad, but there must have been a reason for him being in tears. Totally unacceptable if he is a 15 year old lad, and I'm surprised by the reaction to it on here - I don't want to see any fan getting a kicking, let alone a town fan.

http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=155308

Leeds thread.

to answer you're point nomoreheros the reference was being bored was explaining why i was actually sending the form in despite knowing full well there will be a technical fault with all the cctv on that part of the ground when that incident happened.....not because i'm anti-establishment.

yeovil blue, i take you're point but even in that instance, had the lad had been doing that what happened would have been completely unacceptable, its completely irrelevant?

Some of you seem to be reluctant to believe that the biggest hooligans sometimes are the police and they cause more trouble than they prevent sometimes.

Some of you seem to think I’m angry by the reaction on here, I’m more disappointed.

Yorkshire OB have a long history of treating football fans like shit.

Complain to the FSF as well, they take on some of these cases.

www.fsf.org.uk

I understand your frustration.

My post only points out what i saw.

I only hope that someone was videoing with a phone or camera cos bet your ass any pictures by the fuzz will be lost.

They seem to be mainly just taking piss in that.

they are now, kind of been hijacked but there were some initial serious posts.

there were a few who saw half of what happened - several agreed it looked heavy handed.

Didn't realise anything had happened outside after the game.

reading that the kid was making slit throat gestures and stuff,personally ive no problem with that at all but he can hardly complain if he gets a smack even if its from a Copper.

and it says that where? there's one saying he was waving thats about as close as it gets.

Second post in the thread that was linked to

Police have probably saved him from getting an even bigger kicking after the game.

Was about 16 I wouldve thought , He was been a mouthy little wanker all game and his dad wasnt much better  Was doing the usual 'slit throat' Gesture like a real hard man. Dont know what happened though sorry  

There seems to be a bit of an over reaction here, if hes 15/16 he's hardly a pup is he? Just things going a bit OTT from all parties.

Kid gobs off at football and gets a whack, lordy knows it happened to me (Swansea at home a few years back). He'll learn his lesson like I learned mine, it ain't that clever when you get a pasting.

I thought of you when I initially read the thread.

it seems like a young lad was giving it the billy big bollocks which was unoticed by town fans, who only see a poor child victim being singled out and bullied by the nasty coppers and stewards.

If that was the case then they wont take to kindly to that kind of thing,that may have been seen as a turkish kinda of gesture which would't go down well with the leeds fans or the OB.

So how does it work then, can matey boy demand Elland Road security videos as it is him in them?

Probably have to get everyone else blurred out though I would have thought.

Even if he doesn't pursue it then it would be quite cool to have a video of yourself on youtube getting tagged by a copper in front of a couple of hundred people.

isn't there a law you can demand any video footage that may contain you?

If there isn't then there bloody well ought to be

i didnt actually read the post on that link, the post i made was on another site.

i wouldnt take those leeds fans word for anything, they seem prize wankers.

"He was crying his f***ing eyes out the little gayboy.

Steward was strangling him, whilst the coppers were just slapping him for fun "

i think that sums up the type of scum bags they are

A true story about Leeds fans is that when they came down here last season, an ambulance went past the Merlin just before the game and a group of their lot starting throwing bottles and pint glasses at it.

They also rape baby seals.

i remember a mark thomas show on it, i think i do anyway.

hmm

 our fans would say exactly the same if it happend here to a little gob shite from a visiting team.

Yes, for a 5 pound charge, but there are conditions to it, like paying to enter a premesis. Different if you are on public property.

I been round the block enough to realise they over reacted. If anything the should of thrown the cunt out a few rows to the left of me. Annoying twat although i had pleasure telling the suited steward what a cunt he was on the way out.

It's called a freedom of information request I think.

I don't get this thread at all. Assuming the accounts are accurate of course.

He may have been a gobby little shite giving it Billy Big Bollocks. But thst doesn't excuse OTT physical policing/stewarding.

Take him away, give him a banning order for isightment, whatever. But punching him?  Come on, this isn't the 70's/80's.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of what they did to the kid (and I reckon he was a lot less than 16), the fact was that Police and stewards came piling down the stairs with no regard to the safety of people coming up the stairs including my own.
During the game, you can kind of accept that, but when people are leaving the ground it's putting people in danger. At least two of us got knocked over and it could have been a lot worse.

Don't know if it's related to the incident or not. But at the end many Town fans were chanting ''istanbul, istanbul, istanbul'' which did wind up many leeds fans on the way out.

I wasn't at the game so obviously can't comment on the incident, but at least a few people saw something they weren't happy with and there is no smoke without fire. My biggest concern with this sort of heavy handed behaviour by police or stewards is that it can quickly turn in to something a lot worse - I once saw a minor incident with the police (not at a football match) turn in to a full scale riot within minutes.

The only justification for the police or a steward punching someone at a football match is if they need to take them out of action, which would mean something a lot worse than just mouthing off or making hand gestures.

By "there is no smoke without fire" do you mean that the kid probably deserved it, or that the police officer overreacted? There's smoke indicating both.

Just that if people saw something they weren't happy with, something happened that shouldn't have.

But my main point is that when something like that happens at a football match (ie a kid getting punched by the police), with emotions running high its easy for people to get involved and it to turn in to something a lot worse. If I was nearby and saw it happening and thought it unjustified I could easily see myself wading in, then a few more people, then a few more and the next thing you know the shit has totally hit the fan.

Was that deliberate?

You've lost me.

Hit the fan? Think about it Jonny.

OK, I get it now. Obviously that wasn't deliberate, wish it had been though as it was quite clever.

Would have been even better as "filth hit the fan."

I'm in agreement on this I was in the queue when the coppers came charging through, I had to pull my sister out of the way through fear of her getting hurt by the charging coppers, it would not have hurt them to have tried to walk through quickly shouting "police coming through" or words to that effect as a warning but they think they can do what they like, then the stewards follow them through also knocking into everyone - bang out of order.

If you're talking about me, you're a cunt....... ;)

If you're talking about the bloke who looked like he'd stuck his both his arms in the mains and his gobshite mates, then I agree entirely......

The kid turned to us (whilst being man-handled to the ground). He looked totally distraught and mouthed "I haven't done anything wrong". I really felt for him. Mind you I didn't see what he did to cause such a ridiculous reaction from the policeman.

The stewards were so annoying for telling us to sit down the whole time. Some of the ones around me were OK saying we understand where you're coming from, but we're just doing our job. However, a couple of them got shirty when we said that the Leeds fans near us were still standing and nothing was being done about it. They were total pricks.

All the stewards we spoke to were fucking diamonds. One of them was giving us tips on where to find slags in Leeds. He said "you'll be right, it's giro day!"

Genius.

Any updates on this situation?

The fann...not the slags,


but then again...im all ears!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7988828.stm

Having been constantly filmed by the boys in blue over the last 20 odd years its always nice when they get shot with their own gun.

Without this footage the Old Bill would of said he was shouting abuse etc etc etc.

I hope they get fucked over for this!

Yep anyone who has 'the police are basically always right' mentality just look at the footage.

Bunch of cunts, i hope the Knob who did this loses his job and pension,as well as going down for a stretch. The met have got a shitty reputation for being nothing but thugs in uniform and this does nothing to disprove this theory.

The rule is simple....

Dont tar everyone with the same brush:

Not all football fans are hoolys.

Not all coppers are heavy handed wankers.

Just weed out the ones that are...

I'm not sure you can judge too much from that clip. It looks like there had been something going on before the start of the film and then it looks like he is (at minimum) trying his best to wind the police up prior to them pushing him. Not saying that whatever he was doing justified the police response, but he wasn't just walking along the street minding his own business either.

Fucking Hell Jonny!

You better get offline....the old bill will track you down and use you as a witness!

NB - This bloke was a newspaper seller on his way home.

Do you really think there was nothing going on between him and the coppers that led up to him being pushed?

Again, I'm not saying he deserved it - I'd just like to know the full story first.

Well, he is dead and they will lie so how will you get the full story?

Well, he's certainly sold a few today.

'Read all about hit!'

If you read the reports available, he had already been thrwon to the floor and beaten by the OB. (He was not participating in the demo but the OB wouldn't let him leave the area).

At the point that you see the assault by the OB on the video, he had his back to them, his hands in his pockets and was moving away (albeit slowly) from the OB line.  At that precise moment there absolutely ZERO justification for the actions of the OB.

The fact the OB then bullshitted about the events shows them to be an even bigger bunch of cunts.

I agree... why film an 'innocent bystander' when all mayhem is taking place around you - something must have got the camera mans attention... I remember vividly a photograph in the papers of a copper 'kicking' a guy on the floor in the head during the miners strike - he was suspended and investigated until BBC video footage showed that he was actually pushed from behind by another miner whilst trying to help the guy on the floor - the momentum made it look like he had taken a running kick whereas in reality he had stepped over him... cameras don't lie but they can paint a tainted, one sided view... 

From experience it's likely that if it can be proved that the push, and only the push, caused the heart attack that killed the guy then the copper is looking at a manslaughter charge...

Where do the reports come from?  Links?

Many witnesses have come forward who were trying to get to certain roads and were stopped by the police.

I reckon after a day of constant abuse they were losing it.

Good work.

Is it the Met or City of London police? It certainly happened in the City

If he's done something wrong they should arrest him. If he's not they should leave him be.

The reports and witness statements have been all over the press (except the BBC of course).

In fact it's also reported that the BBC new of this video for two days but refused to show it.

In that same footage, after he has the heart attack he is receiving medical attention and the police form a cordon to protect him. At least one person throws a bottle at one of the police officers. Why isn't anyone commenting on that?

Is pushing someone more serious than throwing a bottle at someone's head? Has the person who threw the bottle come forward to face charges of assaulting a police officer? Or any of his mates or other witnesses come forward?

Again, I'm not defending the police who can be real arseholes but it is all extremely one sided. A police man takes one step out of line and everyone comes down hard on them, yet at the same time people can throw objects and abuse at them and that is viewed as being acceptable.

the blokes dead jonny.

i was up in london on the thursday, i was walking from moorgate to london bridge, i was not part of the demonstration, im not a scruffy cunt, didnt look like a protestor.

i got stopped by numerous OB and streets were blocked off, it was a fucking nightmare. The girl i was with got brushed aside by one copper, they were fucking wired and bang out of order.

fuck me i agree with ironside, thats twice now.

Obviously if he had been a hippie then this would have been fully deserved.

As it is I feel sorry for the bloke and his family.  Its dosnt matter what happened before the filming starts. If he did something wrong they should have arrested him at that point not wait til he is walking away and shove him in the back. its fucking cowardly. The copper responsible should go down for it.

I thought that it was being policed very poorly when I saw on the TV that people were being contained in an area for upto 7 hours regardless of weather they were protesting or just about their daily business.
Seemed to me that the coppers were on an "anything goes today lads" mode. To me, I feel may be the guy was/had said something to them, so this copper thought he'd dish out his own punishment. There is no excuse what so ever for it. It contrasts with the Jean Charles De Menizes case where I had/ have some sympathy with the police, but in this case I hope they throw the book at the copper. It also brings to mind the recent thing in Luton, where the islamofacists were allowed by the coppers to incite murder/hatred, & when ordinary peopel object they get arrested.

So reports today that the bloke was plastered and had drinking problems and was causing the police aggrevation. That doesn't warrant the treatment dished out one bit, but I wonder if the heart attack was brought on mostly through the drink or through the police being overly aggressive.

Yeah, the police action was merely a coincidence. That fact that he liked a drink means he would have been dead within minutes anyway. Infact I'd go as far to say that the policeman deserves promotion for putting the poor chap out of his misery. Lets hope that the thorough police investigation that takes place, much like all other police investigations, finds the brave policeman innocent.

That's exactly what I meant Spacey. Good post.

And they should charge him (postumously) with wasting police time.

I would just like to know what would of been done without the video evidence......fuck all is my guess!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7998976.stm

this looks a bit excessive

I bet that was sore afterwards

The second autopsy on Ian Tomlinson has shown that he died not of a heart attack,but of internal bleeding,
causing an "Abdominal haemorrhage".His family have known the results for 1 week,but were asked by the
IPCC not to comment,whilst their inquiry proceeded.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5172206/Ian-Tomlinson-G20-protests-death-police-office-faces-manslaughter-charge.html

blimey, the guy that did the first autopsy should probably be a bit worried as well now - sounds like rather a convenient conclusion to come to before the video came to light.

No wonder he died if he had internal bleeding. And to think everybody was blaming the pigs.

Regarding Ian Tomlinson the blame now has to firmly lie with the police. It already did to a large degree but now it's certain.

All these reports about the protests are showing that the police have not done their duty in that they have aggravated an emotive situation. With all the talk of Hillsborough I think comparisons can definitely be drawn, the police seem to adopt an us versus them attitude in these protest situations. Obviously football hooligans are there to cause trouble though, whereas protestors may not have this mentality. One thing that's been learned is that giving people a beating only makes the problem worse.

I also noted the fact they boxed people into certain areas without food and drink for hours and no wonder people got angry.

Memo.

Take a packed lunch to next protest.

Fucking disgraceful.

Nought wrong with doing over a macdonalds and helping yourself to a few happy meals.

Some of us remember the similarities of what happened to Tomlinson and that of Blair Peach.

The infamous SPG (Special Patrol Group) were involved that day.

Here's the story of what happened...

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/46954,features,blair-peach-30-years-on-death-of-a-political-protestor

Getting back to the original threat tho' why is it acceptable for Yorkshires finest to assault a football fan, but not acceptable to assault a protestor in London.
Does it have anyhting to do with video evidence shown on TV ?

Unless either is committing or is going to commit a violent act which is a threat to public or police safety, then it's not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8005966.stm

oh jesus, listen to that woman and then you'll think he's entitled to have stabbed the retard.
she's represented by max clifford

apologies if this has been posted before

I want to kick her in the cunt.

More video evidence seems to be coming into the public arena, about the Met's tactics that day...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6122553.ece

she' certainly deserves a shoeing

Old Bill in Portugal getting some instant payback for over the top policing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz2ju8sVEus

fuck me bet that copper wont do that again.

That is the players giving him a kicking isn't it? Make Cantana's outburst on Matthew Simmons look like the overblown handbags it was

Imagine if that happened in England? It would be anarchy in the media.

Fair play!

the problem with that is the copper whos is going over the top with the batton makes a swift exit, whereas the other coppers who simply pinned him down get a shoe in.

rough justice