Title: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Nemo on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 12:20:36 http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10341~1559820,00.html (http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10341~1559820,00.html)
Quote Swindon Town Football Club is inviting supporters to assist in the club's 2009/10 Season Ticket initiative. The Club will be holding a Season Ticket forum at The County Ground on the evening of Wednesday 25th February 2009. Chief Executive Nick Watkins and Director Jeremy Wray will be joined by Box Office Manager Brian Powell - with doors opening at 7pm for a 7.30pm start in the Legends Lounge. Fans are asked to come along to suggest ideas and ask questions about the current ticketing initiatives with the club currently planning next season's Season Ticket pricing structure. Article continues 300 complimentary tickets are available for supporters which are now available from the STFC Box Office. Anyone going to this Wednesday? I know there's been a lot of dicussion on what could be improved for next year on this forum so thought it would be worth starting a thread here so the opinions of those too lazy to turn up (most of us) could be put across. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 12:55:00 I think they should freeze prices for existing season ticket holders and then bang the price up by £15 or so.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: michael on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 12:57:38 Good idea.
I also think they should consider the mechanism for paying the second installment. Don't know how many didn't pay up, but there would be more of an incentive to complete if you'd paid £150 for, say, 7 games, instead of 10. Also, to be honest I really wasn't all that bothered whether I got a free top or not. The board probably over-estimated the value of that. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:34:32 The most important thing, I think, is to ensure there is a difference in price between the TE and the main stands
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arriba on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:42:31 freeze prices in the main stands for season and match day tickets. reduce the townend season ticket price.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:44:32 Put the away fans in the townend, move the away bit of the arkells to the other end and have the SB open for home fans at super cheap ticket price.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:46:14 Also they should do a flammableBen get's to go free offer.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:48:58 I want to be able to pay my Season Ticket by direct debit. Not on a credit & interest basis like the current scheme, just the full price divided up by the number of payments, plus a small admin fee if neccesary.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 13:54:46 Some sort of reduction/incentive for those who live more than 50 miles away.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Sussex on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 14:00:07 Some sort of reduction/incentive for those who live more than 50 miles away. Good call, only made two games this season (skint). Brighton at their place in the paint pot and Brighton at home. Bit of a rubbish couple of games to have been to. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 14:44:58 Let me get this right then, we have had a disapointing season there is a credit crunch and currently unemployed people are getting tickets for a fiver but we should freeze prices or increase it slightly.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: yeo on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:00:37 Some sort of reduction/incentive for those who live more than 50 miles away. Why would they? People that have season tickets already and live a distance away are either going go come to the games or they arent.Lowering prices isnt going to encourage more through the gates is it? You choose to live where you live and support Swindon,you arent extra loyal or an extra valuable supporter just cos you have to drive down here for the games. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Batch on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:10:40 Put the away fans in the townend, move the away bit of the arkells to the other end and have the SB open for home fans at super cheap ticket price. Not sure if you are serious, but I think (not 100%) that if the SB is mega cheap you can't stiff the away fans for more money in an equivalent part of the ground. I thing the SB and TE are classed as equivalent, event though one has a roof and the other doesn't. That aside. The away fans should NEVER get the TE :) I want to be able to pay my Season Ticket by direct debit. Not on a credit & interest basis like the current scheme, just the full price divided up by the number of payments, plus a small admin fee if neccesary. Good idea, but how do they police the people who cancel the DD? Unless they go for an electronic card, which I can't see. If they can overcome that it would b great. I'd happily pay a bit more for this facility. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:13:35 Good idea, but how do they police the people who cancel the DD? Unless they go for an electronic card, which I can't see. If they can overcome that it would b great. I'd happily pay a bit more for this facility. Leicester do it by making £15 penalty charges for a missed payment and if they don't cough that up then their season ticket gets cancelled. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:31:52 Why would they? Who mentioned anything about loyalty etc etc? Suggestions were asked for i gave one.People that have season tickets already and live a distance away are either going go come to the games or they arent.Lowering prices isnt going to encourage more through the gates is it? You choose to live where you live and support Swindon,you arent extra loyal or an extra valuable supporter just cos you have to drive down here for the games. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:42:59 Some sort of reduction/incentive for those who live more than 50 miles away. Why would they? People that have season tickets already and live a distance away are either going go come to the games or they arent.Lowering prices isnt going to encourage more through the gates is it? You choose to live where you live and support Swindon,you arent extra loyal or an extra valuable supporter just cos you have to drive down here for the games. Actually, I'd like the chance to buy a season ticket for just weekend's & Bank Holidays (or non school nights) We have season tickets this year, but can't make it to midweek games. This season has been OK, because the Season Ticket price has meant that attending half the games (or so) is still cost effective. If the offer is not extended to next season, or a scheme whereby we only pay for games we can attend it will be back to single match tickets for us, and we only made about 1/2 a dozen games last season. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 16:52:06 Fuck me these out of towners will want expenses next
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: swindonbob on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 17:00:36 I like the idea of the interest free installments - but if not, the split season ticket payments were the next best thing.
I think a £150 season ticket for Town End only - lets pack it out with season ticket holders and get some atmosphere back. Price freeze everywhere else in the ground. How many people (approximately) does Town End hold? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 17:25:28 Fuck me these out of towners will want expenses next Yes Please. Where can I pick up my expenses forms, or better still can you post them so I don't have to come down & get them :D Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 17:27:21 Also, don't like the idea of giving the TE to the away fans.
I remember one of the last times they did that. It was full of Shitheads, and they made a lot of noise. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 17:59:08 Fuck me these out of towners will want expenses next What i did suggest to the club last year was a half type season ticket where non locals could sign up for 10-12 games, that would certainly encourage me to go to more home games ( i currently do around 6 per season) That would give more money to the club, whilst me not wasting half of the cost of a full ticket due to child/work issues. For example its hard to do midweek homers as i dont get home until midnight and have to leave work early etc, so i dont often go, with a half type i could probably do most saturdays whilst saving a few quid.Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Luci on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 18:35:58 What i did suggest to the club last year was a half type season ticket where non locals could sign up for 10-12 games, that would certainly encourage me to go to more home games ( i currently do around 6 per season) That would give more money to the club, whilst me not wasting half of the cost of a full ticket due to child/work issues. For example its hard to do midweek homers as i dont get home until midnight and have to leave work early etc, so i dont often go, with a half type i could probably do most saturdays whilst saving a few quid. I think thats a very good idea. I can't always afford away games but for out of towners, its the same cost as a home game - god knows how anyone can afford to do that. Definitely cheap tickets for the Town End - 150 quid is a must - only problem is that this could mean the intermitent atmosphere we've seen in the DRS at some points this season diminishes. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arnold.J.Rimmer on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 19:47:09 Also, don't like the idea of giving the TE to the away fans. I remember one of the last times they did that. It was full of Shitheads, and they made a lot of noise. I don't think we've ever given the Town End to Bristol city? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 19:55:45 I think thats a very good idea. I can't always afford away games but for out of towners, its the same cost as a home game - god knows how anyone can afford to do that. Definitely cheap tickets for the Town End - 150 quid is a must - only problem is that this could mean the intermitent atmosphere we've seen in the DRS at some points this season diminishes. I'd rather the full atmosphere was restored to the TE though tbh. It was great yesterday but with cheaper season tickets it could be even better. It's worth a punt. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 19:56:38 I don't think we've ever given the Town End to Bristol city? We didn't as such. But in 1995 i remember there being a couple of shitheads behind me. We won 2-0 though so they soon shut up! Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: leefer on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 19:57:38 Sure we did one season...and if ime right i think Junior Bent scored the winner in a one nil win for them....in front of the Town End.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arriba on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:13:24 i remember city being in the town end.and rovers. was between 89-91.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:23:11 Think that was the start of the 90 season, 3 or 4 games in.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arriba on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:25:09 cunts chased me up broad street so it sticks in the memory
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: yeo on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:29:14 I cant make loads of matches doe to work,perhaps they could do a Jamie works a 4 on 4 off shift Season ticket....
Its daft to expect the club to tailor season tickets to all the fans different circumstance,simply not realsitic. I say dont bother with any complictaed schemes at all. £10 in the TE and £15 everywhere else.If you pay want to pay up front in the form of a season ticket then you get home Cup games free. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arriba on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:35:31 they aint gonna reduce it by that much yeovil,though it would be nice.and the offer of cup games free doesn't really tempt to part with cash upfront.
i think they will lose season ticket holder whatever happens really. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: yeo on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:38:54 I think they are going to have to be bold arriba,Swindons been hit hard by the recession and its only going to get worse and Football is going to be the one of the 1st things that people drop when times get hard.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: dell boy on Sunday, February 22, 2009, 20:39:11 I cant make loads of matches doe to work,perhaps they could do a Jamie works a 4 on 4 off shift Season ticket.... Its daft to expect the club to tailor season tickets to all the fans different circumstance,simply not realsitic. I say dont bother with any complictaed schemes at all. £10 in the TE and £15 everywhere else.If you pay want to pay up front in the form of a season ticket then you get home Cup games free. A lot of golf clubs give you a country membership for those members who live out of the area and only come down so many weekends a year, I think this could be a good idea, of course you could not expect an allocated seat, this would have to be allocated to you on match days, beggers can't be choosers. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: nevillew on Monday, February 23, 2009, 07:48:08 I don't know how many people reneged on their second payments, but I'd suggest if it was more than a couple of hundred we can wave goodbye to any installment payment options.
I reckon they'll drop the S/T price in the Town End, leave the rest the same, and up front payments only Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Phil_S on Monday, February 23, 2009, 08:01:52 I think the ionstallment idea worked well, so why not just bring forward / change the installmenty amounts ?
Make the dates mid June & 1st September. I also think that they could offer a multi Season Ticket. ie Buy an ST for two, three, or more years at todays prices with an incentive like free hosptality once per season (or similar). I also think that the prices (if they stay the same or similar) should be advertised or promoted more. In particular the cost of under 21's tickets. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Batch on Monday, February 23, 2009, 09:19:49 Leicester do it by making £15 penalty charges for a missed payment and if they don't cough that up then their season ticket gets cancelled. That's excellent then. How do Leicester physically cancel the ST though to make sure people aren't getting in for free? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, February 23, 2009, 09:29:31 That's excellent then. How do Leicester physically cancel the ST though to make sure people aren't getting in for free? I would imagine they use swipecards/creditcard type season tickets which are checked electronically on entry - it's the only way it would work - to do that would take investment from the club but to me would provide an opportunity to create loyalty rewards etc. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, February 23, 2009, 09:31:50 That's excellent then. How do Leicester physically cancel the ST though to make sure people aren't getting in for free? I'm not sure how they do it, but I think the principle should be that if Leicester can do it then we should be able to as well. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Batch on Monday, February 23, 2009, 10:15:01 I'm not sure how they do it, but I think the principle should be that if Leicester can do it then we should be able to as well. definitely, as triseros says it would take an investment from the club, but makes the options so much more flexible. Hopefully it's not a prohibitive cost to implement. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: RobertT on Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:37:55 as with most things, outsource companies exist which mean you don't have the prohibitive start up cost for rewards style cards. It wouldn't be unlikely for their to be companies who provide the service for sporting stadia. You get bar coded e-tickets these days for one off events, so even that could be used. Inactive bar codes would prevent entry, even if it's a handheld check at the turnstyle (which would probably maked it just as quick to get in through the turnstyle anyway).
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 23, 2009, 14:12:10 I'd like to see ST prices stay the same and a reduction bought in for the wings & TE.
Obviously the 2 installment plan didn't go to plan as there was a large number that didn't renew, but with the recession kicking in in Swindon then I think they may have to think 'out of the box' as there will probably be a lot of people that would like to attend but due to job losses, reduced income etc won't be able to attend so perhaps a way of paying by installment - perhaps they get given a book of tickets by the ticket office each installment ? I'd like to see matchday prices reduced very slighly as well to try and encourange more fair weather supporters out of their arm chairs. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: leefer on Monday, February 23, 2009, 14:17:11 I would like to see kids going free with a paying adult,they would all want scarves,tops etc...also Ten pounds for the Town End...and its about time the club came up with an idea to fill the Stratton bank when ware not playing the big teams.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 23, 2009, 14:28:26 I would like to see kids going free with a paying adult,they would all want scarves,tops etc...also Ten pounds for the Town End...and its about time the club came up with an idea to fill the Stratton bank when ware not playing the big teams. What about a Town End Blimp for the SB? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Spy on Monday, February 23, 2009, 17:23:44 Personally I think some of those who moved from town end to don rogers will come back anyway as the atmosphere didn't spread around the ground as people hoped it would. But still I think season tickets in town end should be cheaper than those in the side stands to fill it up again.
Ben I can only assume your away fans in the town end idea was a joke to get a rise out of people. I can't think of anything worse than freezing or getting rained on on stratton banks with no decent atmosphere around our stands watching away fans living it up in the town end! >:( >:( Any sort of extra incentive for those who live further away is not a realistic idea imo. How would they prove where they lived? Bank statement\utility bill and photo ID I guess... But then they'd have to bring the photo ID to all games too?? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: swindonbob on Monday, February 23, 2009, 17:37:06 Personally I think some of those who moved from town end to don rogers will come back anyway as the atmosphere didn't spread around the ground as people hoped it would. But still I think season tickets in town end should be cheaper than those in the side stands to fill it up again. Ben I can only assume your away fans in the town end idea was a joke to get a rise out of people. I can't think of anything worse than freezing or getting rained on on stratton banks with no decent atmosphere around our stands watching away fans living it up in the town end! >:( >:( Any sort of extra incentive for those who live further away is not a realistic idea imo. How would they prove where they lived? Bank statement\utility bill and photo ID I guess... But then they'd have to bring the photo ID to all games too?? I moved from Town End to a top quality seat in the DR Stand - smack on the half way line, 2 rows from the back. I do miss the atmosphere, but you have to weigh up the view/atmosphere balance. For me, £150 season ticket in Towend would make my mind up - £200 I would have to make a decision - anything more that £240 then its DR again for me next year. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Sussex on Monday, February 23, 2009, 17:43:19 Any sort of extra incentive for those who live further away is not a realistic idea imo. How would they prove where they lived? Bank statement\utility bill and photo ID I guess... But then they'd have to bring the photo ID to all games too?? My picture is on my driving licence along with all my other details. Not exactly a ball and chain to take to a game. Not bothered about long distance benefits, but get the jist of what you're saying. Sort of. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Phil_S on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 03:10:33 Anyone go to this. Any thing of interest said ?
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 09:51:10 Anyone go to this. Any thing of interest said ? Er no, I didn't go, the thought of attending the CG so soon after Tuesday night was too much to stomach! However, I did email Nick Watkins my apologies and offer a couple of small ideas to be considered, didn't even get an acknowledgement! :secret:Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 09:54:38 If the standard of football remains the same for the rest of the season the season ticket sales will be low no matter what incentives are offered.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 09:59:18 If the standard of football remains the same for the rest of the season the season ticket sales will be low no matter what incentives are offered. Talking of crowds, I noticed that we had about 6k on Tuesday (I am guessing Hartlepool had very few fans) and are utter dogshit and Peterborough, who play a very exciting attacking style of football and are chasing promotion only had 5k. We may be towards the bottom of the league but we still have a pretty decent fanbase bearing in mind the woeful football we've had at home this season. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: DV on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:04:53 If the standard of football remains the same for the rest of the season the season ticket sales will be low no matter what incentives are offered. I really want to quote this and say supporting your team has fuck all to do with the standard but he is right. If we want to get the plastic arm chair fans off their arses and into the CG we need to win games, success brings in the fans. Although bad finanically, some of the fans that have come and say by me this season (i have no idea how long they have been going) I'd be happy if they fucked off and never came back like angry shouty man. I'd be happy with 1,000 every week if it was the 1,000 that went to Leicester. Proper support that was Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:10:39 I really want to quote this and say supporting your team has fuck all to do with the standard but he is right. If we want to get the plastic arm chair fans off their arses and into the CG we need to win games, success brings in the fans. Although bad finanically, some of the fans that have come and say by me this season (i have no idea how long they have been going) I'd be happy if they fucked off and never came back like angry shouty man. I'd be happy with 1,000 every week if it was the 1,000 that went to Leicester. Proper support that was You are so far up your own arse! With only 1000 "proper fans" the club would soon fold. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Luci on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:51:07 So no-one went to this then?
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:55:04 So no-one went to this then? Beleive the trust did so I dare say a report is forthcoming..... Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: DV on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:55:49 You are so far up your own arse! With only 1000 "proper fans" the club would soon fold. Yes, I clearly made that point myself. I just perfer supporters who get behind the team rather than those who are super negative all the time. I fail to see how that makes me up my own arse? Financially would be a blow but other than that they are no loss. I'd rather we had good support who got behind the team though. Although Tuesday night it was interesting to hear everything on the pitch. I wouldnt like to be Jamie Vincent Jr and not get up for school and having shouting GET UP, GET UP, GET UP, GET UP, GET UP!!! at me Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:20:47 Yes, I clearly made that point myself. I just perfer supporters who get behind the team rather than those who are super negative all the time. I fail to see how that makes me up my own arse? Financially would be a blow but other than that they are no loss. I'd rather we had good support who got behind the team though. Although Tuesday night it was interesting to hear everything on the pitch. I wouldnt like to be Jamie Vincent Jr and not get up for school and having shouting GET UP, GET UP, GET UP, GET UP, GET UP!!! at me I and many others do get behind the team, but when we are served up such garbage on a regular basis that becomes very difficult to maintain. On Tuesday I do not recall a 1000 supporters giving their all for 90 minutes, do you? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: DV on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:22:26 no, it was like a bloody funeral but rather than the actual numbers I was comparing our general level of support to that we had at Leicester.
It was the best support we've had in a long time, you really left there thinking you'd made a different and you were proud to be a Town fan. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: santasdead on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:36:40 It was the best support we've had in a long time, you really left there thinking you'd made a different and you were proud to be a Town fan. i wasnt there on tuesday,but maybe its not the level of support which is the problem,maybe out of the 6000 fans at thegame were the majority who did go to leicester (and yes that was a great atmospher and amazing support) but probably due to two things 1-us beating the top team for 86 minutes, and 2- the fans were concentrated. if the same 1000 fans were there on tuesday the effect wont be known unless they were sat together. so its not the level of support,its just the %of home fames that dont show support as those who go to the away matches do,if that makes sense? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:50:08 I and many others do get behind the team, but when we are served up such garbage on a regular basis that becomes very difficult to maintain. Garbage on a regular basis? Granted we've seen our fair share of poor games this season, but just looking back over games this year (ie 2009), I'd say that's pretty harsh:13 January - drew 1-1 with Stockport, in play off place at time if I remember rightly. Pretty good game. 17 January - lost 2-1 away at Huddersfield. Didn't see it myself, but from what I heard on radio and what others who went said yes I'll give you that one. That's 1-1 so far in the "regular garbage cup". 27 Jan - won 3-2 against Walsall. While perhaps not one to trouble the compilers of "100 greatest games of all time", certainly far from garbage. You're 2-1 down. 31st Jan - drew 0-0 away at Oldham, again a team pushing for playoffs. Again, didn't see it myself but again going on reports from those who did, not garbage. 3-1. 14th Feb - 1-1 away at Leicester. A bloody great game, wish we played like this every week. Emphatically not garbage. 4-1. 17th Feb 1-1 away at Millwall. Good performance by all accounts, unlucky to concede to wonder goal so late. 5-1 21st Feb 4-2 at home to Scunny. Say what you like about this one, and it's difficult to judge a game so heavily skewed by a loony ref, but garbage it wasn't. 6-1 24th Feb Lost 1-0 at home to the ref. Total garbage. No argument there. Final score: 6-2 to the "Not garbage" side. So out of 8 games this year, I make that 2 that could fairly be described as garbage. Granted, like I said at the top, we have watched some utter bollocks this season at times, but it's definitely got better lately, so I don't think the phrase "served up such garbage on a regular basis" is at all fair where we sit now. You seem to enjoy snatching at the negatives, well, "on a regular basis". And no, I didn't find much to shout about on Tuesday either. We were shit. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Dozno9 on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:25:06 Thats your evidence for proving that we have not been served up garbage is it? You have only chosen the 2009 games (all 8 of them and ignored the 28 before that) and selected some which are highly questionable. You have to look at the season as a whole, why the past few games? Your argument falls down as we are worse off now then we were on the 17th Jan (2 points of bottom 4 and now 1 point), that is where we sit now.
I'm not going to toss off to a one all at Leicester when we played shite on Tuesday and against Scunthorpe (if it wasn't for the sendings off we would have lost that by a fair margin). We got battered by Oldham and Brez got man of the match says it all really. Walsall we were 3 up and then garbage prevailed. If the majority of the season hadn't had garbage served up we wouldn't be 5th from bottom, and that has mainly been at home. Although Histon was a real highlight. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:31:30 Thats your evidence for proving that we have not been served up garbage is it? No, that's my evidence that saying we regularly get served up garbage is OTT, and recent form is relevant IMO because the OP implied it was an unremitting tide of shite from start to finish which I don't believe is true, in that it has got better recently. Granted the League position hasn't, but I was addressing the standard of play, which the phrase "regularly served up garbage" is talking about.Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:34:11 Didn't we sell more season tickets for the 06/07 season than we did the years before it? There is no clear pattern as to how or why season ticket sales vary from year to year, other than this season when we slashed prices. Matchday sales are probably more likely to be swayed by the teams performance, not season ticket sales. Your usual 2k-3k will occur most years, regardless of how we did the year before because it's the loyal fans who want to budget and that isn't going to change much. It may drop from this years if nothing sparks the public interest, but it won't drop any lower than it was 2/3/4/5/6/7 years ago.
In the good times of the late 80's, our season ticket sales were still around the 3k mark at most, apart from 93/94/95 period. Ardiles and Macari couldn't even spark the interest in forking out several hundred quid for a ticket, just as Malpas wouldn't wipe out the season ticket base. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:35:55 Some fair points pauld but overall the season has been a disaster, and we are far from being out of the mire yet.
I want to enjoy going to the CG but that has been few and far between this season. It is very doubtful that I shall renew my season ticket next season, I wonder how many others feel the same way. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:40:49 Some fair points pauld but overall the season has been a disaster, and we are far from being out of the mire yet. Fair enough. Don't get me wrong, even with some dramatic improvements, it's not likely to be a season I'll look back on with any great fondness either in my dotage. But that won't affect my decision to get a season ticket - I can't imagine Saturdays without football (or more to the point I can and I don't like the idea) and I like the people around me where I sit. And let's be honest, supporting Swindon isn't a straight down the line rational "quality of product" decision is it? It's a gut thing for me, but I can see how repeated misery could wear that out of anyone.I want to enjoy going to the CG but that has been few and far between this season. It is very doubtful that I shall renew my season ticket next season, I wonder how many others feel the same way. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Spy on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:45:39 no, it was like a bloody funeral Where were you sat? In the town end there was quite a lot of singing all throughout the game. Not too bad considering it was quite a boring game and the ref seemed to stop it every few minutes because someone had fallen over and he thought that warranted a free kick. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:55:13 It was quiet, very quiet, on Tuesday.
As PaulD mentions in his rationale, most people just ignore the previous years drivel when deciding to buy a season ticket, hence my point about little fluctuation from year to year unless very special circumstances prevail (Prem year, prices slashed). Lets be honest, if it was performance related we'd be down to a sprinkling of about 10 people with season tickets by now. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:00:52 Lets be honest, if it was performance related we'd be down to a sprinkling of about 10 people with season tickets by now. Quite. For most fans at our level, buying a season ticket is almost a textbook example of the phrase "The triumph of hope over experience". In fact, that should be printed in large letters as the slogan on the ST books.Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:01:10 After the game on Tuesday I had my first misgivings about going to every game this season. Even when I woke up on Wednesday, I still didn't want to travel to Tranmere and felt pretty pissed off about the money it's going to cost to get to the remaining home and away games.
I'm still gutted about Tuesday's performance, but I'll be going Saturday and I'll be renewing my season ticket, whatever happens. It's like what Paul said, you can't rationalise why you do it and if you looked at it logically, why put yourself through the misery of watching a poor team week after week? But logic and rational thinking have very little to do with supporting a lower league team. Stupidity helps though!! Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Dozno9 on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:13:02 I buy a season ticket every year, have done for donkeys years and will continue to do so. I would pay pretty much anything (within reason) for one. Saturdays are for football.
I get the pissed ripped out of me by the people I meet and work with, but with that comes a certain respect from them that I go and support the team in the town I was born in. I would rather support Swindon than any other team, including the top 4 premiership, I couldn't think of anything worse. What I don't want is the club to take the piss because I would renew whatever. I don't give a shit if they make the townend £100 for the year when I pay £300+, I don't want to go in that stand so fill it up. I WANT them to lower the price of the townend, I WANT buy BOGOF offers, I WANT bring a friend for a fiver, I don't care that I still pay full whack, it's what I choose to do. I don't subscribe to the view that, 'oh it's only Swindon so it's shit and you've got to expect that', that's bollocks. I pay my money and expect good football, I don't expect to win the FA cup. When the players play like they have this year it pisses me off. This is even more so when we have a good crowd, not because I am pissed off particulary for me but because I want the non-regulars to come again because they have seen a good performance, playing like we have done it is no suprise that the aggregate has gone down game on game. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:19:50 Don't think anyone would disagree with any of that Dozno. I certainly wasn't. And very well put btw
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:30:08 I used to be one of those that would go every game,every season no matter what.
It may surprise some of you but there are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday that can be more enjoyable than watching the Town. My point is that unless the product improves there may be many others out there who will try the other option. It is down to the club and most importantly the players to provide us with performances that warrant our support. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:31:01 I used to be one of those that would go every game,every season no matter what. It may surprise some of you but there are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday that can be more enjoyable than watching the Town. My point is that unless the product improves there may be many others out there who will try the other option. It is down to the club and most importantly the players to provide us with performances that warrant our support. Name 3 things more enjoyable than watching your team on a Saturday? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:33:48 Name 3 things more enjoyable than watching your team on a Saturday? Pub. Computer Games with radio on Tellybox with radio on Cooking a delicious Lasagne with radio on Going to visit my friend Ally and drinking lots of wine all afternoon. A Mega Wank. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: overthehill on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:37:11 Pub. Computer Games with radio on Tellybox with radio on Cooking a delicious Lasagne with radio on Going to visit my friend Ally and drinking lots of wine all afternoon. A Mega Wank. He only wanted 3 Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Dozno9 on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:37:31 I used to be one of those that would go every game,every season no matter what. It may surprise some of you but there are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday that can be more enjoyable than watching the Town. My point is that unless the product improves there may be many others out there who will try the other option. It is down to the club and most importantly the players to provide us with performances that warrant our support. One is not exclusive to the other, without support there is no money to buy players, without better players you will not get the support. Classic chicken and egg scenario. They club need to make it a family event but still attract the single guys (and girls) who want the pub/game/pub event. Suitable pricing and events will do the trick I belive. One thing is for certain; that I have more confidence in the current board getting it right than the previous one. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: DV on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:59:05 Pub. Computer Games with radio on Tellybox with radio on Cooking a delicious Lasagne with radio on Going to visit my friend Ally and drinking lots of wine all afternoon. A Mega Wank. fail... Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 13:59:31 Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Arriba on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 14:01:16 i dont think i can remember a season with decent gates like we are getting and such a shit atmosphere.
it really has been piss poor this season.i think there are 2 reasons why it's utter gash.the townend is half empty,and the football isn't a lot to shout about. i expect the club to lose at least 1500 season ticket holders next season,alot of those fans will probably do a proportion of games anyway,and a fair chuck of them will go in the townend.i think although the club will miss out on money upfront from season tickets,the atmosphere will improve. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 14:22:41 Pub. Computer Games with radio on Tellybox with radio on Cooking a delicious Lasagne with radio on Going to visit my friend Ally and drinking lots of wine all afternoon. A Mega Wank. each to their own but none of those float my boat apart from the mega wank. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Luci on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 15:50:09 So no-one went to this then? Obviously not! However Bens "more enjoyable than football" points amused me! :D Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 16:20:41 I didn't have you down as a "mega wank" kind of girl...
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: sheepshagger on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 16:31:32 Gotta say even the CG is better for a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon than Ben's suggestions...
After all you can have a mega wank in the morning befor ethe pub... All you need to do is organise your time better :) Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Spy on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:30:08 I think being a supporter you can be like investing in something. If you invest in a club by going to lots of games then when a great performance comes along it will be even more enjoyable as you will know you supported the team through the not so good games which will provide contrast and its something you've put time and effort into.
Just think, by similar logic - if you went to say, hartlepool or crewe away and we won the victory would probably be all the sweeter cos of the mission to get there. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:40:37 I'd (metaphorically) kill to watch Swindon week in/week out.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: axs on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:41:16 I'd (metaphorically) kill to watch Swindon week in/week out. But you wouldn't (metaphorically) move? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:42:15 Soon dear boy, soon.
After I've graduated in 2010 I'm moving back to the Westcountry. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:45:16 Good good, Rich. You're high up my list of TEFers I haven't met but would like to.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: axs on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:52:22 I think the highest poster I haven't met is Spud, followed by Pullen.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: axs on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:53:20 Actually janaage is between them.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Spy on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 17:57:05 Soon dear boy, soon. After I've graduated in 2010 I'm moving back to the Westcountry. Why didn't you go to a west country uni? Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: swindonbob on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 18:03:23 So.............did anyone go to the meeting last night?!
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 18:18:49 They've made confidentially agreements :)
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 26, 2009, 19:41:08 Don't think many went - I got a ticket late Monday when I picked up my Leeds tickets, on the off-chance I'd be able to make it (I couldn't in the end), but that was number 21 so unless they had a late rush Tues/Wed, looks like it might have been pretty sparsely attended anyway.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 27, 2009, 07:42:22 Why didn't you go to a west country uni? Because he probably didn't fancy doing a course in farming, basket weaving or cheese making. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:01:30 No matter what league we are in they seriously need to look at what udders and bradford did. We would sell double what we did this year imo
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:21:34 TRUST EMAIL...
Summary of Season Ticket Forum ============================== Attendees : Jeremy Wray Nick Watkins Joanna Scott Brian Powell -.and another 20 people !!! JW chaired the meeting, thanking everyone for turning up, saying that the meeting had been called to get some ideas in regards to forthcoming season tickets prices. It was said that some fans didn't like the two part season ticket as it seemed to encourage some to not pay for the second half, and that the ticket office had to do a lot more admin because of it. JW said, even though we did not make the 6k target, at the end of the day ST holders went from 3.2k to 5.4k, a significant increase, and yes some people did not buy the second instalment, but that is the risk you take. Northampton Town have nicked our 'Go To Town' literature for their forthcoming ST prices. The offer didn't all go to plan, but they've learnt things, which hopefully they'll put right this year. The offers done by Huddersfield and Bradford, are not sustainable, due to the fact you have very little cash flow throughout the rest of the season. Q - JW and board were thanked for all their hard work over the last year, and who would have thought that the club board would actually ask the supporters for ideas in the first place? Had the board thought of doing a 3-year, 5-year of 10-year season ticket? A -JW said they hadn't, but he liked the idea, and will go away and work some numbers and certainly look into it Q - The club need to improve their public relations. A - JW said that despite improvements being made over the last year, the club will definitely look into trying to improve. Q - Could the club give bigger discounts to long term ST holders? A -JW said that the database when they took over wasn't fit for purpose. They now have 5,400 ST holders details on their new database, and they could certainly look into this. JW mentioned a book of vouchers which covered, say 10 matches, could be a possibility, due to fans not being able to make midweek games due to work commitments, and they just trade a voucher for a ticket. Q - Town End atmosphere. Due to the current ST offer a number of former TownEnders have moved, and it has affected the atmosphere. If they run a similar ST offer, could they either make the Town End slightly cheaper, or a freebie, like a new Town shirt with their season ticket. A - JW said that it was noticeable at the start of the season, that was the case, but last Saturday the atmosphere in the TE was a lot better, but they will certainly look into it. Q - Could the wing prices be cheaper? A - JW said whilst the crowds were 7-8k, the answer is no, as people will pay for wing seats and move over to more expensive central seats. If we were getting 14-15k weekly, then maybe a possibility. Q - The future of the club is the kids. As the childrens price of a match ticket (over 7's) is #9, which is a bit excessive. Could the club do something with the Junior Robins, like when they become a member of the JR's, get discounted child's tickets, like #2, to encourage kids to come along? A - JW said that they'll look into it. Q - NW said that he had some e-mails from people who couldn't make the meeting, and one asked about whether the club could think about doing Direct Debits, so ST holders could pay over a longer time. A - There was general feeling that this is a good idea. NW said they'll look into it, but it might be too late for this coming season, as they will have to get in with the bank/Direct Debit to see what was involved. JW hoped that the new season ticket prices will be announced at the Crewe game in early April. Q - How about a referral system, that if you bring a new season ticket holder to the club, that the current ST holder gets a discount on their ST ? It was mentioned to the previous administration, but they ignored it. A - JW said he likes that kind of idea. NW said they did something similar at the end of the ST offer last year. NW said that they have been working on a 3-year plan for the club and the financials around it. Despite the perception, the club actually lost money in regards to the two concerts held at the club a few years ago. NW said that they will consider any ideas they receive by e-mail, but they will be deciding their prices for next season over the coming weeks. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:25:32 "JW said they'll look into it"
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:29:29 "JW said they'll look into it" Someone should have asked about that hole in the car parkTitle: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:30:49 It's a real shame that the season has gone completely pear shaped, because there can be no doubt we're better run off the pitch....sadly though it's probably the very honesty and transparency, which is costing us.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:44:31 I dont buy the no cash flow statement. As i said huddersfield seem to be ok
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 18:46:04 Huddersfield's board are fairly rich no?
On the other hand, matchday food/drink sales there must be pretty big, although that wouldn't work for us as the queues would be too long. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: michael on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 20:26:33 I don't know if NW or JW frequent this message board as often as they do others, but I would like to put on record that, regardless of division, I would be happy to pay the same next season as I did this year :)
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 20:43:05 JW mentioned a book of vouchers which covered, say 10 matches, could be a possibility, due to fans not being able to make midweek games due to work commitments, and they just trade a voucher for a ticket.
This was what i was trying to put over for miles out of towners like myself, i'd certainly go for this, which would up my attendance and pastie consumption by 4 per season Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 20:47:58 You couldn't expect a dedicated seat for that arrangement though ?
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 20:52:47 Wouldn't want to, i sit towards the town end of the Arkells in whatever area is emptiest, wouldnt bother me if i was the only one on the SB, as i dont like being round to many people.
Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 21:50:58 I dont buy the no cash flow statement. As i said huddersfield seem to be ok Quote from a Huddersfield Fan about season tickets ours will go up as our chairman has said last season was a once in a lifetime offer, ours are going to be announced on the 11th or 12th of April but talks about prices are ongoing as they are trying to make them as value for money as possible. Last seasons £100 offer cost the club over £1.2M in ticket sales revenue. Title: Re: Season Ticket Meeting 09/10 Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 22:13:32 I stand corrected.
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