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Title: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:19:51
So far we have blamed malpas byrne the fans and granville. Its time the players realised they are not good enough ability wise and started battling and showing some effort. Stop blaming managment and pull your finger out you lazy cunts


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:24:46
malpas was a fucking shit manager.i also think the effort is there,just a lack of abilty.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: DV on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:24:50
we also blamed andy cryer....


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:27:46
Tea Lady out!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:28:27
Tea Lady out!

tea man, curly makes the tea


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:36:04
Tea Man out!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:36:57
So far we have blamed malpas byrne the fans and granville. Its time the players realised they are not good enough ability wise and started battling and showing some effort. Stop blaming managment and pull your finger out you lazy cunts

Yes, but Malpas is the one that settled on the squad we have, the buck stops with him.  I'm not sure we can blame the players, 60%+ of this squad would be reasonable on L2 but their not L1 players, it's not their fault their not better than they are.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: yeo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:42:58
The players are to blame,Maurice takes his share as should the board.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: DV on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:50:21
I blame Ralphy


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:54:18
 Under MM we took 16 points from 14 games...by no means great, but the 8 points from 11 since, shows we haven't gained very much by sacking MM.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: herthab on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 18:58:39
I'm not anti Fitton by any means, but even the most ardent supporter of the new board's got to realise that they raised fans expectations and have (As yet) not delivered.

I wasn't expecting promotion this season, but I also wasn't expecting a relegation scrap, which is what we are now in.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:07:15
We haven't had a good run this season, all sides have a good run some time in a season, ours is just around the corner!!!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:07:20
And so they appointed Wilson, who was previously a manager of a team in our division with a poor defensive record :)


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:08:15
I'm not anti Fitton by any means, but even the most ardent supporter of the new board's got to realise that they raised fans expectations and have (As yet) not delivered.

I wasn't expecting promotion this season, but I also wasn't expecting a relegation scrap, which is what we are now in.

 I think our mid term future will be settled in the next fortnight....it's obvious and Wilson has stated we need fresh blood, should this not be forthcoming or of a low grade type, then I think we can assume the Board probably will settle for L2 obscurity for a while.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: yeo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:08:27
We haven't had a good run this season, all sides have a good run some time in a season, ours is just around the corner!!!

Dell did you see you have a stalker?


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:09:46
Dell did you see you have a stalker?


Really, how gay!!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: herthab on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:09:51
We haven't had a good run this season, all sides have a good run some time in a season, ours is just around the corner!!!

All sides don't have a good run Dell. Look at the teams relegated last season and tell me Port Vales good run.

It's time for realism, not optimism and the reality is we're shit.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: yeo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:11:13

Really, how gay!!


do you know what im talking about?


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:12:24
do you know what im talking about?

No


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:17:44
All sides don't have a good run Dell. Look at the teams relegated last season and tell me Port Vales good run.

It's time for realism, not optimism and the reality is we're shit.
If my memory serves me correctly I believe Port Vale won three on the trot before we thrashed them?


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: herthab on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 19:24:19
If my memory serves me correctly I believe Port Vale won three on the trot before we thrashed them?

We had a four game unbeaten run in the league before Malpas was sacked.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Dozno9 on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 20:17:51
I would rather have Wilson picking new players than Malpas, his record of signing good players was faultless...


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:35:58
Everyone knows that this squad, although not good enough, they can perform hell of a lot better. Most of the players should be giving more, showing their 'true' ability. Surely thats down to the management to get the best out of the players?


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:39:27
Thats true Sippo though you have to give all the squad a run out and that means team changing...hows DW going to know his players....hopefully hes seeing the rubbish and will sort it though why Morrison is not playing baffles me.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:44:06
I'm sure he has his reasons though. Yes he has to change things if they aren't working. But before he came we were no better. DW needs a few games (and reserve ones) to see the squad as a whole. Hopefully he will get the best out of the players in the very near future otherwise it will be too late.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:45:22
dw needs a fucking wedge of cash


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:48:02
But cash isn't always the answer. Will DW buy the right players? If the Jeremy Kyle rumour is true then obviously not. We'll see who he buys when and if given the chance.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:49:46
jeremy kyle. whats that bellend got to do with anything?


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:53:55
I can't remember his first name so thought I'd call him jeremy. That striker from coventry that DW bums


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:54:24
Kevin.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 22:56:26
Sit down Shut up and listen!!....a Jeremy Kyle team talk.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, January 18, 2009, 23:01:02
If that were to happen, most of our players would probably break down in tears!! But thats what they need a good fuckin bollocking. Tell them some home truths!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: overthehill on Monday, January 19, 2009, 08:21:40
I blame Fitton.
Great for saving the club blah blah blah.......
Shit at appointing managers......Malpas, enough said
Wilson, sacked at Hartlepool FFS where is the improvement there? (Didn't even have a defender on the bench on Saturday)
Thinks the supporters who disagree with him know nothing. Maybe so,but how long has he been a supporter?
I have seen enough Swindon teams to know the squad we have now is a shower of shit.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: stfctownenda on Monday, January 19, 2009, 08:42:40
I blame Fitton.
Great for saving the club blah blah blah.......
Shit at appointing managers......Malpas, enough said
Wilson, sacked at Hartlepool FFS where is the improvement there? (Didn't even have a defender on the bench on Saturday)
Thinks the supporters who disagree with him know nothing. Maybe so,but how long has he been a supporter?
I have seen enough Swindon teams to know the squad we have now is a shower of shit.

You sir are a clown, we have still time to make signings and for fuck sake give Wilson more than a couple of games before judging him.  This is not his team, not even close so lets give him time and see how we get on.  Stay up this year and push on next season.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: overthehill on Monday, January 19, 2009, 08:47:42
You sir are a clown, we have still time to make signings and for fuck sake give Wilson more than a couple of games before judging him.  This is not his team, not even close so lets give him time and see how we get on.  Stay up this year and push on next season.

Did you hear Wilsons post match interview?
Expect low level signings.
I will give DW time but with little backing from the board this cheap option appointment is doomed to failure.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, January 19, 2009, 09:12:42
Did eveyone expect everything to become rosy overnight as soon as we got a new Manager?

Jeez!  Some people on here need to take a reality check.  Wilson can only do what he can do, and I for one have much more faith in Wilson to get us out of this than I did Malpas.  The squad is not good enough but there is only so much that Wilson can do immediately to fix the situation.  I agree that the board maybe need to do more than they were intending to do, and maybe bend some of the internal rules that they have set to keep us in this division, but lets at least give Wilson a few weeks to bring some of his own players in.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: wokinghamred on Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:18:55
You sir are a clown, we have still time to make signings and for fuck sake give Wilson more than a couple of games before judging him.  This is not his team, not even close so lets give him time and see how we get on.  Stay up this year and push on next season.

I completely support Wilson, but time is the one thing we do not have.
We have taken half the season to sack Malpas, 6 weeks to appoint Wilson, weeks to study the squad to see where we need to strengthen.

In a few weeks time, we will be relegated, and then we will all be saying how the f*ck did that happen. We need action NOW to get in a couple of solid players to stop the rot, otherwise it will be too late. Get someone in now.



Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:23:41
How are we going to be relegated in a few weeks?

thats not even mathmatically possible


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:39:31
At the moment we need the following :- 1 centre back (experienced) as Danny suggests
but we also need a decent central midfielder from somewhere


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:41:57
Wilson has said that he expects some new faces before the next game which is what we need so I don't see the problem at the moment.

If by the end of January we have no new players in then I would understand the misplaced ramblings that are happening in this thread, but there is no point in panicking and bringing in any old player to apease the fans, it has got to be the right players.  Otherwise we will end up with the same senario as Frank Macavenny and Laurie Sanchez.  Only players that will move us up the table are worth bringing in, otherwise we may as well go down with the shower of shite that we have, save some dosh, and rebuild in the summer ready for Lge 2.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:44:19
Getting the players in seems to be a problem at the moment... one that is taking too long.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Tails on Monday, January 19, 2009, 13:25:47
 
I completely support Wilson, but time is the one thing we do not have.
We have taken half the season to sack Malpas, 6 weeks to appoint Wilson, weeks to study the squad to see where we need to strengthen.

In a few weeks time, we will be relegated, and then we will all be saying how the f*ck did that happen. We need action NOW to get in a couple of solid players to stop the rot, otherwise it will be too late. Get someone in now.


We're not even in the bottom four, how are we going to be relegated in a few weeks? Muppet!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: DV on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:04:17
I blame Fitton.
Great for saving the club blah blah blah.......
Shit at appointing managers......Malpas, enough said
Wilson, sacked at Hartlepool FFS where is the improvement there? (Didn't even have a defender on the bench on Saturday)
Thinks the supporters who disagree with him know nothing. Maybe so,but how long has he been a supporter?
I have seen enough Swindon teams to know the squad we have now is a shower of shit.

Wilson was not sacked from Hartlepool.

I dont know how long you've been a Swindon supporter but Danny Wilson has been playing football since 1977 and has been been in management since 1994

So I'm willing to suggest he knows alot more about players and their ability and football in general than you do.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:07:56
Did eveyone expect everything to become rosy overnight as soon as we got a new Manager?

Did eveyone expect everything to become rosy overnight as soon as we got a new Owner?

Getting te finances right after being left in god know what mess takes time. I am not saying we shouldn't be improving off and ON the pitch. But without shitloads of money it takes time to get everything in place. Ask Reading, Bristol City, etc.

We do need to start improving the squad though, and its valid to be a bit concerned right now. Unfortunatlely the wage bill seems to be being taken up by sub-standard players. How the hell do we move these on. I guess we don't, we just let their contract expire = no much spare £££ in the budget for players right now.  


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:10:56
i dont see how wilson can get any blame yet.way to early.i also dont think he is a cheap option.he wont be up there with the expensive type managers, but i expect he is on a decent wedge here.
i dont think the bloke is going to be a miracle worker.i'm convinced he needs money to strenghten the squad.we are also carrting alot of dead wood in the squad,and alot of youngsters who i think wont be good enough in the long run.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: wokinghamred on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:48:04

We're not even in the bottom four, how are we going to be relegated in a few weeks? Muppet!

Its called hyperbole.
If we don't act soon it will be too late.
And I am not a muppet. Wanker.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:49:43
FIGHT!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:54:01
Muppets are ace. Which muppet would you be?

I am fozzie bear.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:54:53
Oh I am definatly Waldorf or Stadler :)


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: dell boy on Monday, January 19, 2009, 14:57:48
FIGHT!

That Tails is always picking fights ... he needs to relax and chill out a bit.
 :violin:


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Phil_S on Monday, January 19, 2009, 15:23:06
I certainly wouldn't give any board carte balnche backing for the sake of it. I certanly didn't with the last lot, & won't with AF & co. However, I can't see how some people can pick fault with the current board & what they have done to date. There one (1) possible mistake was the appointment of MM, & with hindsight that may not have been the mistake we thought as the record since is worse.
What really amazes me tho' is that some will slag AF & co off for not spending oodles of cash ! I'd suggest that they have done nothing but since taking over. MY estimate is that it has cost them at least £5,000,000 so far PLUS the cost of shelling out for Simon Cox.

They never promised instant success on the pitch either. They stated it was a goal to get in the Championship within 3 years. That is still achievable what ever happens this season.



Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, January 19, 2009, 19:16:28
I think the problem is that the business side of things is boring to fans, it's the football which matters. Memories are short lived on the pitch and even more so off it.

There's no point throwing cash around for the sake of it, but I hope and think the Board will back reasonable signings on the manager's advice. Which, to further your point, the fact they paid for Casal shows that the Malpas appointment really was a disaster. Personally I think he's no more or less coachable than Michel Pook has ever been, and on his few appearances since he joined, has been far worse.


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: donkey on Monday, January 19, 2009, 19:31:33
Oh I am definatly Waldorf or Stadler :)

The grumpy looking big blue eagle...according to the wife...


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, January 19, 2009, 22:12:02
ANIMAL!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Players not managment to blame.
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