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Title: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:12:30
Both out of the running, according to The WDP today. Both men were interviewed, but have been told their applications were unsuccessful. Fitton is also understood to have made no move on Calderwood.

Yesterday, Fitton was quoted in the adver as saying neither Richard Money, nor Gary Speed have been approached.

Either AF is playing mind games, or there's going to be a real left-field appointment.

Maybee Sheena is on her way..........


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:16:09
So everyone we think would be a good appointment keep getting ruled out. It's going to be another Malpas isn't it.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:23:19
I hope it's someone who hasn't been talked about over and over again. More exciting.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:26:05
pointing towards Ling I reckon


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:26:50
Maybe we should make a list of realistic people that haven't been ruled out.

I'm going to need some help with this.......


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:30:11
Has Dowie been ruled out at all?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:32:46
Can't remember if he has or not tbh.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:38:50
pointing towards Ling I reckon

Ling wouldn't even be under consideration if he wasn't an ex-player.  Loved him when he was playing for us, but he's an average manager.  I hope we are aiming higher.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:41:10
and so the cycle continues.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:56:16
Pardew?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 08:59:27
Alan McLoughlin.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:01:21
what ardiles said


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: overthehill on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:10:37
Getting boring now.
Don't you just know it's gona be a big disappointment in the end.
 :(


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:13:28
unless Fitton himself comes out and says who is out of the running i'm not believing anything.
I hope it's not Ling. Popular player but i think he'd have a similar reaction from the fans as Malpas did



Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:17:31
From memory Fitton is on record saying its not:

Boothroyd
Money
Pearce
Speed
Calderwood (not contacted)

Ling (said himself no contact from STFC a week ago)


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:22:25
I told you all Dowie will be appointed Thursday. It WILL happen.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:36:35
But there isn't a Thursday this week?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:38:21
Ling wouldn't even be under consideration if he wasn't an ex-player.  Loved him when he was playing for us, but he's an average manager.  I hope we are aiming higher.

I might even see a small amount of logic on approaching him if he were 'available'. But to actually pay compensation money for him, not for me.

Dowie - never been a big fan of his managerial career really. BUT..he would be a big coup for us given he is quite high profile. And whilst he may not be my choice I wouldn't be sitting in the corner sulking if he is our manager.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:48:55
My dad heard that Holloway didnt take his interview very seriously and was cracking jokes and laughing all the way through - apprently Mr Fitton wasnt very inpressed


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:49:54
My dad heard that Holloway didnt take his interview very seriously and was cracking jokes and laughing all the way through - apprently Mr Fitton wasnt very inpressed
I take it AF has no sense of humour then.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:54:05
Just been told Avram Grant flew to England yesterday, maybe he's the one we ain't talked about?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 09:54:37
Oh do fuck off.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: wokinghamred on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 10:24:35
I might even see a small amount of logic on approaching him if he were 'available'. But to actually pay compensation money for him, not for me.

Dowie - never been a big fan of his managerial career really. BUT..he would be a big coup for us given he is quite high profile. And whilst he may not be my choice I wouldn't be sitting in the corner sulking if he is our manager.


mate of mine is an Oldham fan, and thinks the sun shines from Dowie's arse.
For 4 years , Oldham and Palace, the guy had a bloody impressive record, although lost his way a bit since then.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 10:39:55
The longer this goes on the more I fear Byrne might be told he can carry on for the remainder of the season in order to try and create some stability over the crucial Christmas period.  As the uncertainty obviously effects the players and staff etc Fitton may feel it’s getting too late for a new man to get in, assess the squad and sort out the key areas we need to improve and Fitton may feel Byrne at least knows the squad so would have a better grip on what is needed to strengthen it.
This is definitely not what I want to happen but the way it’s dragging on suggests Fitton is struggling to get what he considers the right man for the job and may focus his attention on trying to keep us up this season and review the manager situation in the Summer.

I’ll probably get shot down as this obviously is all just me thinking out loud but it really is dragging on now and it’s unusual for these things to drag on for a month and seemingly have no inkling (at least in public) about who may get the job.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:08:55
I don;t agree Glos, I think Fitton's taking so long so that he can get someone in. He can take as long as he needs if he gets the right man IMO.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:17:15
I dont agree either. 

Taking this long to just appoint the caretaker til the end of the season wouldnt make any sense, he could have done that straight away.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:20:59
I kind of agree with glos' misgivings that it does seem to be dragging on a bit, but then I suspect whoever it was said yesterday that it may be that's because they've got close on one or two and it hasn't worked out so they've then had to restart. And I also agree with juddie - while it's nipple-wrenchingly annoying at the moment, if it means we get the right guy and in three years time we're looking back at several seasons of progression and a succesful start in the Championship, then hell, I'll even wait another week for that.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:21:25
Well Peter Shilton is at the CG today..or was it yesterday...perhaps hes one thats applied and hasnt been mentioned.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:28:25
Well Peter Shilton is at the CG today..or was it yesterday...perhaps hes one thats applied and hasnt been mentioned.
He'd be a safe pair of hands


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:29:31

mate of mine is an Oldham fan, and thinks the sun shines from Dowie's arse.
For 4 years , Oldham and Palace, the guy had a bloody impressive record, although lost his way a bit since then.

It's easy to forget the early stuff due to the way he left Palace, Coventary and QPR. I would get behind him 100% and see where it takes us. However I don't think it will be Dowie.

For the record his record is

Code:

Team                            From To                 G    W L D Win %
Queens Park Rangers     28 September 1998 16 October 1998 2 1 1 0 50.00
Oldham Athletic         31 May 2002         19 December 2003 82 31 23 28 37.80
Crystal Palace          22 December 2003 22 May 2006        123 50 44 29 40.65
Charlton Athletic       30 May 2006         13 November 2006 15 4 8 3 26.66
Coventry City           19 February 2007 11 February 2008 49 20 21 8 40.81
Queens Park Rangers     14 May 2008         24 October 2008 15 8 3 4 53.33


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:32:33
Those figures are quite good actually! better than i thought


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 13:40:23
Of the names that have been bandied around I think it is only Dowie & Pardew that haven't been ruled out...so it is either going to be one of them or someone totally unexpected.

Maybe it will take another week though as Roy Keane has said he wants to be a manager again sometime - maybe Fitton has to approach him just top rule him out !!!


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 15:15:18
Dowie was on Big Weekend 2 today and comes across as a really intelligent football guy. Has had success at Oldham and Palace as someone else said and I reckon we could do a lot worse.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 15:21:46
Mixed-up Pantiliner or booby williamson you mean?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:04:23
Diamandis


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:11:15
Diamandis

Just reading that name sent a shudder through me.  The anniversary of the date on which that arsehole inspector left the premises (for good) is approaching the weekend after next.  The occasion should be celebrated joyously and marked by all who love STFC.  Perhaps AF will agree to the sacrifice of an animal in the centre circle immediately before we kick off against Yeovil?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:14:54
Why do you think the new appointment manager is taking so long?

Diamandis is probably rise out of the ground where the centre circle is, dressed as the grim reaper and say "suuuuurrrprise". Although we won't hear because the tannoys are shit.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:39:39
I'm getting a bit pissed off with this all taking so long. I reckon we should be given a clear indication of who the contenders are tomorrow. We deserve some news after being patient enough with Byrne and the constant last-minute goals we're conceding. Every other clubs fans would of been told by now who's in contention etc, but we have no fucking clue.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: DV on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:41:51
no they wouldnt, Huddersfield sacked their manager 10 days before we did and they havent named a new one yet.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:45:19
I'm getting a bit pissed off with this all taking so long. I reckon we should be given a clear indication of who the contenders are tomorrow. We deserve some news after being patient enough with Byrne and the constant last-minute goals we're conceding. Every other clubs fans would of been told by now who's in contention etc, but we have no fucking clue.

So you're telling me that Dowie isn't coming in on Thursday?

Patience people. Whoever, comes in has Malpas' squad until January anyway. Crewe, Yeovil, Orient & Brighton all coming up - 4 games where under the right guidance we could come out with 9, 10 or even 12 points (okay maybe not, but you know what I mean).


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:47:37
I'm getting a bit pissed off with this all taking so long. I reckon we should be given a clear indication of who the contenders are tomorrow. We deserve some news after being patient enough with Byrne and the constant last-minute goals we're conceding. Every other clubs fans would of been told by now who's in contention etc, but we have no fucking clue.

Mr Fitton said before the crewe game,why should he rush on your say so,he does have other things to attend to.Let the man do his job so he can get the right manager to take us forward.

Be patient.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:48:57
no they wouldnt, Huddersfield sacked their manager 10 days before we did and they havent named a new one yet.

Who is their caretaker, he's done quite well hasn't he, results wise?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: DV on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:53:32
they beat Leeds, thats all that matters to clubs like Huddersfield.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:10:57
Dowie was on Big Weekend 2 today and comes across as a really intelligent football guy. Has had success at Oldham and Palace as someone else said and I reckon we could do a lot worse.

Dowie is a pretty clever bloke (he has a degree in rocket science or something) and I can imagine Fitton getting on with him.

I think Holloway has been getting a bit used to playing the village idiot in TV and radio interviews etc and sounds like he may have carried it on into his interview which I can imagine Fitton would not have been overly impressed with.

I like the fact that Dowie had not been ruled out......yet.

All complete and utter supposition I know but let's face it, that's all we've got right now!



Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:35:05
My dad heard that Holloway didnt take his interview very seriously and was cracking jokes and laughing all the way through - apprently Mr Fitton wasnt very inpressed

That doesn't surprise me-the bloke comes across as a total fucking joke


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:02:02
Holloway is a poor man's Andy King.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Arnold.J.Rimmer on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:26:50
Dowie or Peter Taylor then


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:29:22
Where has this Peter Taylor link come from?


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: JPC82 on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:31:05
from rimm job apparently


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:33:35
I've read Peter Taylor's name mentioned on thisis alot... But nowhere else.

Colin Calderwood's lot are losing at home to Sheffield United........... That is all.


Title: Re: Holloway and Ward.....
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:42:40
Calderwood it is then.