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Title: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, December 7, 2008, 23:32:36
Why did we approach joe kinnear? He is on 50k a month and we held talks with his reps so does this suggest we are prepared to chuck some cash at this.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, December 7, 2008, 23:35:35
Have we heard from "official sources" (Fitton) that we did approach Kinnear?

Either way, wasn't it supposed to be after he finished at Newcastle? Before his contract got extended. He may have gotten the taste for football again and decided he wanted to keep it up.

The speculation is always going to be what ifs.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, December 7, 2008, 23:37:00
Yeah watkins confirmed.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: DiV on Sunday, December 7, 2008, 23:42:28
I dont know why the fuck we approached Joe Kinnear anyway!!!!


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, December 7, 2008, 23:53:32
Yeah watkins confirmed.

I must have missed that, or forgotten.

If Fitton's doing his job then I hope he's "approached", "discussed", "looked at", etc. loads of different managers. It only takes a phone call to ask if Wenger is fed up at Arsenal. Why not.

In a more serious take at what I'm on about. I guess that they've at least been "in contact" with a lot of unemployed managers, as well as employed non-top job managers, and possibly a few enquiries about managers which have a top job somewhere.

I'll go as far to judge that the process has gone on so long because they've had a few negotiations broken down. Who knows? It's all speculaiton. The swift turn around of favourites in the press, and the changes in Fitton's interviews makes me think that he's lost out on at least one manager.

If he's been punching above our weight with the hope of bagging a lucky prize, then fair play.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: juddie on Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:08:17
great post ben, agree with all a that


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:14:39
There's doing your job and then there's wasting your time.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:09:28
I'll go as far to judge that the process has gone on so long because they've had a few negotiations broken down. Who knows? It's all speculaiton. The swift turn around of favourites in the press, and the changes in Fitton's interviews makes me think that he's lost out on at least one manager.

If he's been punching above our weight with the hope of bagging a lucky prize, then fair play.
I think you're probably right, there has been a few changes of direction in the stuff said in public.  And I'd instinctively agree with the punching above our weight point too (although shoot me if I ever use the phrase "bagging a prize" outside of some public school yarn parody). But fuck me, it's getting tedious now.


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Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:43:48
I think in all honesty they had no idea who to appoint when they got rid of Malpas and that has certainly had a bad impact on our league position, I think a new manager appointed 2 weeks ago would have put us in a better league position then we are now. I'm not saying I wanted a new manager within a few days of Malpas going but they seem to keep changing their minds depending on who rejects the job next.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: overthehill on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:20:02
Puting our fate in the hands of Byrne & Co was a serious error of judgement by AF.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: nevillew on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:21:08
Puting our fate in the hands of Byrne & Co was a serious error of judgement by AF.

So what was the alternative then ?


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:33:27
There does seem to be this feeling of needing to get someone in NOW because of our slide/January window. It's unlikely we will add to the squad, save maybe a loan or two anyway.

But getting the right man is more important than rushing it. The right man will get our current players playing again. If that takes an extra week or two then so be it.

The biggest worry would be if delay turned out to be because we had to go down to our Nth choice manager, I'm hoping that isn't the case.



Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:42:59
Puting our fate in the hands of Byrne & Co was a serious error of judgement by AF.
As neville says, what would you have done? And why, come to that? You've done the standard thisis "byrne's a clown", "byrne out" rant since you started coming on here, but still not given any reason for it. Face it, Byrne took over at the start of a four-game run that would have had any new manager thinking he'd been dropped right in it, and he's got some decent performances out of previously demoralised players and been bloody unlucky with some of the results. If you've got reasons for your one-line snipes, fair enough, but if all you have to contribute is one-line insults, it's just a waste of space


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:43:19
I think in all honesty they had no idea who to appoint when they got rid of Malpas and that has certainly had a bad impact on our league position, I think a new manager appointed 2 weeks ago would have put us in a better league position then we are now. I'm not saying I wanted a new manager within a few days of Malpas going but they seem to keep changing their minds depending on who rejects the job next.

i have to disagree.

League form since malpas went


Code:
Nov 15  Leicester (H) 2-2 
Nov 22  Bristol Rovers (A) 2-2
Nov 25 Peterborough (H) 2-2
Nov 29 Walsall (A) 2-1
Dec 6 Carlisle (H) 1-1


leicester are a top side who we would have expected to lose too. we got a good draw.
Rovers away. Always a hard game so again a draw was a good result.
Posh are flying so again a good result.
Walsall was dissapointing and was Carlisle yet i think if i gave you these results before malpass was sacked you would have taken them.

I think we've done really well against some top sides. people forget we're 1 point off relegation so have done well.
 


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:47:25
leicester are a top side who we would have expected to lose too. we got a good draw.
Rovers away. Always a hard game so again a draw was a good result.
Posh are flying so again a good result.
Walsall was dissapointing and was Carlisle yet i think if i gave you these results before malpass was sacked you would have taken them.

I think we've done really well against some top sides.
Quite right mr I was talking to a mate this morning and we said actually if you'd asked people whether they'd take a draw out of any of those first four, most people would have said, yeah, fine that will do me. It only became a problem for most (apart from those who just want Byrne burnt at the stake and always have) when they all turned into draws which meant a minimal points return, especially as most of them people came away from feeling we should have won.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:51:26
i think thats what people get at. the manor in how we have drawn. yes a 90th minute equalizer is a bitter pill but at the end of the day we've lost 1 in 5 yet to some it feels we've lost all 5.



Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:52:22
On the Flip side the last 2 performances were fucking shit tbh.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:56:43
Lets face it, if Fitton went out and appointed the first manager to stick his name in the hat and then it came to light that there were other managers available at the time prepared to do a job for us there would be the same bunch of dickheads moaning that we didn't take long enough to consider all the options.

It's a no win situation with these pricks... " ooh... Malpas is shit, Byrne is shit, everythings shit, they're taking to long to appoint the next shit. Shit?! why have they appointed him, he's shit, he didn't win every game, he must be shit..."



Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:57:17
We've lost the same number of League games as Leeds.

Can we be renamed "draw specialists Swindon Town" in the media please.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:57:59
Lets face it, if Fitton went out and appointed the first manager to stick his name in the hat and then it came to light that there were other managers available at the time prepared to do a job for us there would be the same bunch of dickheads moaning that we didn't take long enough to consider all the options.

It's a no win situation with these pricks... " ooh... Malpas is shit, Byrne is shit, everythings shit, they're taking to long to appoint the next shit. Shit?! why have they appointed him, he's shit, he didn't win every game, he must be shit..."


All of that uis true though


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:59:49
It's all shit.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:03:06
You are shit


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:05:25
you stink of shit


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:05:52
Shit shit shit shit shit.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:07:10
you stink of shit
Fuck you shit head


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:10:29
Kinnear has been desperate to get a job back in management for some time. I'd guess that he would take a substantial pay cut to get a permanent position as his contract at Newcastle was very temporary to begin with. I reckon there is a very good chance he was offered the Swindon job and agreed terms, then gave Newcastle an ultimatum - contract till the end of the season or I'm leaving.

Players will often take a pay cut and drop down the divisions as part of their long term plan - to get some games and form for a year or two then hope a big club comes in for them. So why not with a manager?


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:11:25
Fuck you shit head

 :starwars: :nerner:


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:15:29
I'm shitter than any of you shitheads


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: DiV on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:15:39
As neville says, what would you have done? And why, come to that? You've done the standard thisis "byrne's a clown", "byrne out" rant since you started coming on here, but still not given any reason for it. Face it, Byrne took over at the start of a four-game run that would have had any new manager thinking he'd been dropped right in it, and he's got some decent performances out of previously demoralised players and been bloody unlucky with some of the results. If you've got reasons for your one-line snipes, fair enough, but if all you have to contribute is one-line insults, it's just a waste of space

We all know Byrne is pure evil.

The only man more evil than Byrne is the devil himself, Phil Smith


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:25:16
Kinnear has been desperate to get a job back in management for some time. I'd guess that he would take a substantial pay cut to get a permanent position as his contract at Newcastle was very temporary to begin with. I reckon there is a very good chance he was offered the Swindon job and agreed terms, then gave Newcastle an ultimatum - contract till the end of the season or I'm leaving.

Players will often take a pay cut and drop down the divisions as part of their long term plan - to get some games and form for a year or two then hope a big club comes in for them. So why not with a manager?

Yes, but Kinnear has signed a contract at Newcastle until the end of the season.


Title: Re: If we are not throwing cash about
Post by: DiV on Monday, December 8, 2008, 13:30:53
...and he hasnt been a good manager since about 1994.