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take up boxing

hahahahahahahaha

you're so fucking funny

take up comedy

no dv, you take up comedy

no dan, you take up comedy..

i will do stand up when i,m made redundent

rubber.take up train dodging.

i always quite fancied it but most of them are cunts! oh hold on.... :)

Jonny Fuck off. Thanks

are you pooks dad drs

Iwas tempted DRS!

So, Smith punches the ball away to the edge of his area, but it's his fault they score?

What a load of steaming bullshit........

to be fair you cant blame smith for the goal today but he has not been that great recently! looks very nervous!

If your going to come and punch you should do a load better than just getting it 18 yards out dead center of the goal. He's not entirely to blame, but he still has to held accountable

He probably hears the phone in after the game. It's like the Emperors Clothes, apparently Smith ios utter dogshite and Brez is the best goalkeeper since Gordon Banks....

Hahaha leefer that cracked me up. Yes jonny i am pooks dad may i ask what relevence that is to the smith thread

brez is better though

Gordon banks is cool

No. Brez was better. Anyone who saw him at Histon can confirm he's as flappy as fuck.

Both Keepers have suffered a dip in form and from the games I've seen Brez play this season, he's poorer than Smith.

so whats the answer then?

Get a better defence?

Put a midget in goal - at least it would add comedy value.

Either a Goalkeeping coach who improves keepers, not fucks them up, or a new keeper.

Having said that, I really don't think Smith did much wrong today. His kicking has certainly improved.

i guess its one of those things about being a keeper! you make one mistake and its not so easy to hide from it and almost always proves costly! they are an easy target i guess!
i think its fair to say that both of our keepers have shown they can be a class act so id say your probably right herthab and the solution is to sort the coaching side of things!

Smith did fine today!  Find another scapegoat muppets!

I thought we had two decent goalkeepers before this season started.
I now know we don't have any decent goalkeepers.

How many points have they cost us this season already, time for a change!!!

He dropped the ball once when hit straight at him, his kicks from hands and from the ground all high bombs, he was at fault with the goal. What game did you watch?

He dropped it? I saw him fumble, but he held on. His kicks from hand were high, probably because he was told to get it up to Paynter whenever possible (Although when he had the option, he rolled it out to our fullbacks) I disagree that he was to blame for the goal, he punched it to the edge of the area, the Carlisle player still had to get a shot off through bodies.

But blaming the goalie is always an easy option................

What else did he have to do apart from a couple of crosses.
He has cost us many points this season, he is not good enough.

smith was at fault end of

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Mini Brez step forward, your time is nigh!!!!!!!!!!

Thought Smith should have punched it further or to the side, rather than dead centre and to the edge of the box. But the player should have been marked.

I'd say there's not much to choose between either of our keepers - both decent enough for this level, both have been badly exposed by our defence this season. You leave any keeper as exposed as Smith and Brez have been and they're going to make a higher proportion of mistakes than usual, simply because a) they've got more to do and b) they've got no faith in the guys in front of them. Although that applies the other way round as well. Bit of a vicious circle, but IMO the defence are far more at fault than either of the keepers.

And hertha's right about Brez - people keep seeing him through the rose-tinted specs of a two-month purple patch two years ago. He wasn't quite so purple (or rose-tinted) at Histon, Cheltenham, Forest away last seaso etc etc. Which doesn't mean he's a bad keeper - like I say, decent at this level. But he's not Jesus in a green shirt either like some seem to think

both have been utter shit this season

I like many thought Brez was a top class keeper a season ago before his injury, certainly has not produced that form this season.
Between the two keepers I would go for Brez all the same, but as stated earlier and also last week as well, we need a new keeper, no argument as far as I'm concerned.

I think that the actual punch was not the problem more the fact that a good keeper would have caught the bloody thing-Smith looked very dejected leaving the ground

Until Brez get s in then it is roles reversed mate

Neither of the poor fuckers can win, which is understandable considering some of the cunts we have supporting us at the moment

The new manager will come in, prefer Brezovan who will then get injured or make a mistake - Smith will then come in and the cycle will continue...

There's no problem with the keepers, although i would say Brez is by far a better choice.
Defence looked better than it has done for weeks, mainly because Ifil was back...felt like he never left after that performance. Should defo be our captain...thourghly deserves it. aljofree needs to step down, not a leader anymore...need a fresh outlook on things.
I'm preety confident that the new manager will shake things up a bit and get us back on track for the season.

Come on you reds!!

I didn't watch this game but Aljofree was good enough in our last home game.

Ifil as captain? Clearly you've been on the beers!

Nah, he deserves it i think. A much better leader than Aljofree...and a commited player. He just came back into the side, and gave a great performance...as i said like he'd never been away. First time i'd seen our defence solid for a while.

And to clear up the beer thing, i'm not drunk! :)

Ifil did indeed put in a good performance for a player who's been out for as long as he has but he's no more a leader than I am a Nobel Prize astrophysicist. There is a reason why for years we've all been saying stuff like "Needs an arm round him", "Needs a leader/older head alongside him" etc etc

back in my day we used to support our players.

Smith is no better or worse than Brez. They are both off form. Smith didnt cost us the points today. Sure he could have done better but leaving a man un-marked is asking for trouble.

Aljofree and McGovern have both been playing well recently, so we all needed a new scape goat.

Gah, you old timers are all the same :)

Ultimately Brez got dropped after keeping our only clean sheet of the season and since then Smith has bizarrely kept his place. Smith needs to be dropped after today not just for the goal but for his general performance. That pass along our backline in the 1st half which ifil just managed to bail us out on would of been more embarrassing than his Leeds mistake.

here here

Brez has come back in since originally being dropped and was poor. Neither keeper is at their best.

All this wanking over Brez is pathetic. If both were at the top of their games, Brez would be number 1, but they're not. Going on current form, I'd stick with Smith.

unbelievable

What's unbelievable?

My views are based on seeing both keepers this season, the saves as well as the mistakes and taking every game into account.

don,t get me wrong they were both good ,the goalkeeping coach needs to be looked at but smith has ,
thrown the ball in th net against leeds,
kicked fresh air against leicester
got beat on his near post against scunny,
puched the ball when it looked easier to catch resulting in another 2pts dropped.
brez may not be in top form but his misstakes  aren,t as monumentle.

How Smith gets so much stick, i don't know. Sure, he's made a few gaffes, but so has Saint Peter. I do despair at some of our supporters some time...

Smith has cost us a fair few points this term and yet it's wrong to criticise the bloke?  I'm not saying Brezovan's the answer but Smith is doing no good for the team, confidence wise.  Nicky Hammond used to get much more stick than Smith has and yet he never made as many bad mistakes as PS, and that was at a higher level.

unbelievable

Ah, well, no wonder you're wrong then. What you should have done is based your view on a rosy glow from a spectacular penalty save two years ago, a vague memory of describing Brez as "good enough for the Premiership, EASY" for a few weeks after that, and liberal helpings of rank prejudice against Smith and any manager who dares pick him above Saint Peter. Then you'd have a better idea.

To be fair, i just dont feel as comfortable with smith in goal. I know brez is liable to make mistakes too, but smiths this season have been far worse than i've seen from brez. And at thetop of their games, brez is the better of the two.

One thing is evident again in this thread. Our players play shit yet once again it's the fans that are cunts. You lot are just as bad ffs how about you tell these people to their faces to shut up if you think they are out of order

Shut up

Who called the fans cunts?  I disagree with a lot of the shite that's written on here, but that doesn't mean I think the posters are cunts.

Ace.

Anyway, I think what people are trying to say if if we swapped every underperforming player with another one, they'd underperform too, as pretty much the whole team is. Ergo, it makes fuck all difference singling out individuals when the whole team is really at fault.

Considering we're under a caretaker spell it's surprising. December is a big month for football all of our games are against opposition seemingly as shite as we are. Fans and players are nervous, but taking our frustrations out on individuals will only help us go down.

Sorry fella I wasn't saying don't criticise the bloke, I was saying that I find it astounding that a lot more people aren't moaning about the goalkeeping situation.  My point was Hammond is a word associated with clangers and yet Smith hasn't made more clangers this season than NH did in his entire career. 

I'm not gonna tell anyone to shut up re: criticism, as after poor performances like that they have every right to be pissed off, I know I was.  Granville got some stick from me, time everyone associated with the club started earning their wages.

Sorry jan dont know why i quoted you

That's alright fella!  Wasn't sure if I had made my point well enough anyhow.

Peter Brezovan is fucking brilliant and has never made a mistake ever in his entire Swindon history. He should be the first name on the team sheet and we'll be lucky to keep hold of him in January when all the big clubs come calling. Anything less than 5m for him is BULLSHIT.

If he'd played every game this season we'd be top of the league

Dell Boy to be our new keeper then! ::)

Fuck me, Paul Robinson has made more mistakes than Smith, but I bet you would still have him in our team!

Jeez!  Is the economic climate Smiths' fault as well?

 :doh:

You have a charming way about you sir!!!!

Berniman for the new general fucking know-all and I'm always right poster award!!!

Brezovan should start the next game .. Smith is so lacking in confidence right now .. what IS the goalkeeping coach doing?

The usuall suspects, Dv, Arriba even Fred did. Fwiw you are all fucking mongs

Yeah you heard :)

i think our fans are lush.

Making plans for the I'm a Billy Party

Just seen their goal incidentally. The goal is definitely Smith's fault. It doesn't sound like the team played well though so blaming him solely for the 2 dropped points is harsh.

Smith is too fookin fat!

All our players are fucking brilliant and if only we'd stop criticising them on an internet forum we'd be top of the league.Im not saying Brezovan is brilliant but since Smithy's had a run in the side he's not played well and we have an equally good keeper waiting in the wings.Just as Easton who was playing poorly according to a lot of people has been dropped then Smith in my opinion should make way now

I can understand the logic of picking a keeper and sticking with them for a run of games.

But there comes a point when enough is enough and Brezovan deserves another chance. He's been just as bad this season and I've moaned on here before about how over-rated he is by a sizeable chunk of our fan base, but he cant really do much worse than Smithy at the moment.

Yup, once he'd pushed the ball out, he should have rushed to the edge of the box and picked up the player that JP was supposed to be marking, then if he did still manage to get a shot off that he should never have been near in the first place if JP had been marking properly, Smith should have rushed back and formed a wall of 8 players dithering around, none of whom managed to even get a foot to the ball.

Oh, and in response to Berniman, I'd like a word with Smith about the valuation of my house going down as well.

How about he just catches the ball instead of punching.

Just seems baffling why he punched it. It's like a player in front goal trying to head a ball which is heading straight for his foot, then fluffing the shot as a result.

Now I'm just tempted to wind you up and say that Brez is better and he would have definitely caught it and we would have won.

It's not en-vougue these days  It must be down to coaching, a thats not just Granville either. Keepers at most clubs seem to punch or parry when it looks like they could catch. No doubt the optima index of goalkeepers shows a statistic that says less goals are conceded when keepers punch or parry, Very dangerous things statistics, they can mask the truth.

From our end of the DR it looked like Smith was unlucky. But I have to say generally Brezovan has not been afforded the same opportunity as Smith. Brez was dropped far quicker and than Smith, Question is why? Is Brez head not in the right place or does the management simply not rate him as highly or is there another issue?

Agreed...thaught at the time he shouldve caught it..seen it on TV and it was such an easy decision.....stay on your line or catch the ball,thats not to say he is solely to blame,another needless free kick...and we had chances to add to the goal,yes keepers are under more scrutiny when making mistakes but thats football.

I've only seen it the once in real time but he seemed to be on top of a huge group of players. He catches that then he hits the deck he might spill it.

Maybe he could have caught it but a punch 18 yards out still should have been enough. If their man is marked like he should have been, we wouldnt be having this discussion

Was never a free kick.

Yeah, I'd agree, and for that Smith is at fault, but then I wasn't there jumping up through a crowd of players and I'm loath to second guess a keeper in that situation. But my main point was that there were a lot of other faults along the way - it's not like it was definitely a goal from when Smith punched it, there were two other points where it could and should have been stopped, which is why I think it's harsh to blame Smith alone.

Go for it, I'm biting on everything today :)

Brez would have caught the cross then scored with a 90 yard effort, because he is without a doubt the best goalkeeper outside the premier league (tm thisisswindontownfc.co.uk 2007-2008)

all joking aside.i'm pretty sure brez would have caught it.

Quite. Although I chose to ignore Paynter losing his man because quite clearly it's not his fault, especially as he is a striker. Also, Trevor Benjamin would have done even worse.

He is still too fookin fat.

He's not even fat?

Oh yes he is and I should know cause I'm a fat fooker too.

phil smith clearly isnt fat

I dont think you to have to be fat to have an opinion on if someone is fat and secondly just because you're fat doesnt mean Phil Smith is fat?!

Calm down Dell, blimey!  I was only responding to your post to me my friend indicating that I was an idiot!

He dropped the ball once when hit straight at him, his kicks from hands and from the ground all high bombs, he was at fault with the goal. What game did you watch?

No need for the personal abuse Dell.  Everyone spends all day calling each other cunts on here and you get personal about me giving an opinion!

You must be the old general fucking know -all and i'm always right poster award winner then!!!

To be honest he didnt punch it 18 yards though did he-he was outside the 6 yard box and therefore it went about 11 yards which is a pretty poor effort.Punching a ball at chest height you are never going to get enough momentum to send it any real distance.

at the game i think smith should of caught it but it,s down to that goalkeeping coach,before he arrived both goalies were 100% better than they are now.His coaching has cost us over 10 pts this season do us a favour and f--k off

That would be a perfectly valid point were it not for the fact that it was JP not Paynter

This thread is great.

Both keepers were alright when the defence wasn't playing so poorly. Individual errors are proving far more costly but it's not really a good idea to drop a player on the basis of one error in a 90 minute game when for the majority of the match they've had produced a sound performance.

Both have their pros and cons... New guy will come in and make his decision - if Brezovan impresses in training he'll be back.

I wasn't on about the bloke who scored. Anyway as you rightly say, Paynter didn't lose his man at all (nobody has noticed anyway), I don't know what I was thinking earlier

Apart from Reg, I'm probably the oldest twit on here ...

But I believe I never try to abuse anyone unless of course they go for me first.

Your posts I believe are hostile and just looking for a nut like me to be confrontational, well if that is the case, then you picked the right fucker because I will always fight my corner.

Dont fucking tell me to calm down, I am fucking calm alright, and dont come on the old soft shit about I was only having a laugh either.

You fucked me off, you want to make a point go for it.


Back to football .....

Brez is probably no better than Smith at the moment but he deserves his place back in the side.

Been down the pub again Dell?

Nope, just about to go and play darts followed by poker, sober as  judge.

I'm having a laugh Dell, you sound like a spaccy Scouser.

Calm down, calm down!

dells always fucking rowing the miserable old cunt.:)

In that case then Dell, Fuck you you obnoxious cunt!

Is that hostile enough for you?

 :smugfu:

If "going for you" is saying "Smith did fine, find another scapegoat" then you've got issues!

Go bully someone younger and less wiser, dickhead!

bit fiesty in'ere innit

smith didnt do fine though.his weak punch lead to a goal conceeded

Shit stirrer

I hate it when we argue.

I claim second oldest on here dell boy-come on what are the facts?I'm 53!