Thetownend.com

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7706598.stm

The parents cannot be identified- why not?!! They should be.
The bloke living in the house is only going down for 14 years. He should get life. He should never be let out.

Its sickening how anyone can halm a defenceless 17 month year old boy.   >:(  >:(

Usually to protect other children involved e.g. if this pair of scrotes had other kids, so they cannot be identified and adversely affected by publicity surrounding the case

The reports on the national news yesterday were bad enough,but reading todays papers grafically

detail just what Baby P went through.It's so poignant that even after everything he went through,

Baby P attempted a smile.This article isn't for the fainthearted.....


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5134587.ece


As for the "professionals" involved and i use that term as loosely as possible,they shouldn't be allowed

anywhere near young childrens welfare ever again.

As a parent,it's the most wonderful thing that you ever achieve in life,but it brings responsibility that

some immediately take to,or grow into.

Have to agree AM - this is the same social services dept that allowed Victoria Climbie to be murdered, and they seem to have learnt nothing. I near threw my radio out the window in rage last night listening to some dickhead social worker attempting to defend them. That whole department should be turfed out top to bottom, anyone directly involved in this case should be sacked and never allowed to work in such a capacity again and those most culpable (the case worker and immediate supervisor) prosecuted for criminal negligence.

My missus deals with social workers through work, and she's says they really haven't got a clue. She says they're partly to blame.

Apparently the book on the Climbie case is a real eye opener and good read/

Does your missus still work on the special care unit Sippo?

SCBU. Yes.

I don't see the point of putting a child on a High Risk Register. If there is any risk, take them in to care, don't put them on a fucking list and wait for them to become a statistic.

Thats the point. The Social workers haven't a clue. Its like they're wearing rose tinted specs all the time. My missus has seen crack addicts being allowed to take their baby home when clearly you can see they're not capable of looking after themselves let alone a new born baby. The worst thing about is that the parents don't even visit their child whilst its in hospital.

Yet conversely social workers have ripped families apart and caused untold misery to parents who have never harmed their children and would never even think of doing so.

It's not a job I would want.

Been there, unfortunately (my parents are foster carers, a claim of abuse was made against my dad by a special needs girl (falsely, I should add)). One of the worst nights of my life, waking everyone up as two social workers turned up in the dead of night to take both f. children away. As for this case, I've only heard about it briefly, as soon as I heard it and saw a mock up of the child on telly yesterday I distanced myself from it. Can't bear reading about these sorts of things.

I just can’t believe social services turn up so many times and do nothing.  My niece once had her 2 year daughter taken from her into foster care, 5 days before Christmas, on the word of one doctor. He thought she had cigarette burns when she in fact has eczema. Despite the mistake being acknowledged straight away (albeit grudgingly) my niece wasn’t re-united with her daughter until after Christmas and after a series of meetings seeing if she was a fit mother etc etc.

Yet reading that Times article and what that poor baby had to go through, and they still do fuck all and are only given a written warning, it's a fucking disgrace

Redtape, Human Rights, Political Correctness, Civil Servants. - All disgusting contributory factors caused by our stupid protectionist country, which in its infinite wisdom often ends up tying its own shoelaces together.

Working for the government is so far removed from a corporate environment it almost removes accountability. It's a service we all have to put up with and use, not a service we choose to use based on it's quality. And that, imao, is half the problem. No one is accountable, no one is sacked, the service resumes uninterrupted.

Apart from the Doctor who has been sacked.

I thought Tennent resigned?

boom-boom-tsch.

If ever there was a reason to re-instate the death penalty then this is it

These sick cunts need a slow death by torture like that poor little boy had to endure.

I think i've just found the anonymous mothers Bebo thanks to The Times.

Must have been an 'oversight' on The Times' behalf to accidentally give information away that could lead you to find it.

Wholeheartedly agree with that. Those 3 cunts need to burn. The trouble is it wouldn't happen to them because they're not even charged with murder. Yet another disgrace in this fucking horrible story.

Not sure if anyone is watching PMQ's at the moment but a rather angry Cameroon is taking Brown to task over the failures in this sad case. For those who don't often watch PMQs, Brown is notorious for never giving a straight answer (set up reviews, statistics etc etc) and Cameroon is asking a simple and perfectly reasonable and valid question but not getting an answer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7724210.stm

:google:

The fucking fat slag or some other party has obviously closed it now!  :furious: Obviously was her, Tracey "I kill kids" Connolly.

As yet, I have not read the details behind this case, but like Paul I heard the head of Haringey Social Services on Five Live last night defending the social workers involved to the hilt. The failure to recognise a systematic breakdown of procedure that ultimately led to the death of this child is just beyond belief, especially in light of the Victoria Climibe case.

I do not envy the work of Social Workers. Not one bit. The desperately try their best to leave abused and neglected with their birth families if at all possible, and care orders are only given in circumstances where its in the best interests of the child. And that last bit is the most important. The system isn't perfect, and unfortunately never will be; human nature will see to that.

Social workers are humans too. They have a thankless and very difficult job. They make mistakes. Clearly in this case there is a catalogue of failures that need to be thoroughly investigated, but don't tar them all with the same brush.

This is something that makes my blood boil ime afraid,i was braught up with foster parents for 11 years who were evil,my sister has never really recovered from the abuse she recieved,after finaly breaking from the shackles of this ordeal we were put into a home in Swindon,untill i was 16.
Now let me say from the start ive moved on in my life though i do find it hard to believe that the 6 social workers i had in those 11 years failed to heed the warnings of 3 teachers,the headmaster and countless neighbours.
There is no excuse for that poor childs death...the people in charge should be sacked,if it was me i would resign anyway,could you have that on you conscience while working.
While in the council home i saw kids constantly who were abused while the social workers sat back and did nothing....is it there fault?..in my view yes,they are paid extremly well and are trained to the hilt,in my opinion in places like Harringey they are shit scared...its happened twice in 8 years.
My solution is to get people who arnt scared of getting there hands dirty,and use people like myself to see the warning signs..IMO you cant be trained to do a job like that,they should get people who are more hands on...in my case it took 11 years and what did it take to sort things,well my foster dad beat my sis once too often and i took it upon myself to sort it out...the sad thing is nothing has changed....in this poor childs case the 3 responsible should be executed......oh and with ref to PUMBAA,60 warnings isnt a catalogue of errors its just lazyness and cowardice.

What is the world coming to?!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7726077.stm

Apparently both children were stabbed in the chest!!!

fucking hell  :eek:

I don't think anyone was - certainly I wouldn't want to do what must be a very harrowing job as a social worker and I have the greatest of respect for the majority who do that job well under as you say trying circumstances. But in this case clearly there has been a series of massive failures which has resulted in SS allowing a child to be tortured to death. That may be due to negligence on the part of individual case workers, or middle management overruling individual case workers due to some fuckwit policy or targets or whatever. But like the "never again" Climbie case, this is more than just a "try and do better next time" mistake of the kind anyone can make, it's a systemic sustained failure over a period of many months. Haringey SS are collectively guilty of negligence on a quite horrific scale - they should be prosecuted as a corporate entity and individuals involved investigated by the police with a view to prosecutions for criminal negligence. Not sent warning letters and then allowed to blithely state they've done their very best and nothing more could have been done.

I think this article in the Telegraph puts it quite well

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/13/do1301.xml

Lets not forget here It the parents that killed this baby.

Yes, and they're being punished. But the people that we as a nation charge with ensuring that children are protected (from their own parents if necessary) stood by and allowed a 17-month old child to be tortured to death over a period of months. Call me old-fashioned but I think that's more than a bad day at the office and those responsible should be severely punished. With jail time if there's evidence of criminal negligence

Im not denying negligence, however from reading reports the parents/boyfriend was totally coniving fuckers. It was hidden from social services that the boyfriend even lived there.

The system failed. Its Tragic.
However the bottom line is the people who did this to this poor innocent toddler are pure evil. 

Whether they knew/should have known the boyfriend lived there is immaterial. They should have spotted the kid was covered in injuries and was being abused. That's their job. To fail to do the job on such a massive scale reeks of incompetence on a scale beyond mere cock-up and strays into the area of criminal negligence for which all concerned should be investigated and if necessary prosecuted.

Actually, I'd like to gut everyone involved, including the sorry fuck of a "mother" and her evil male companions, with a rusty knife and leave them to bleed to death while attempting to scrape their own innards back into their sorry bodies, but I understand the law doesn't currently allow for such a punishment. So I'll settle for a criminal negligence prosecution.

The 'mother' was blagging that she will be out by christmas. She's probably right.  >:(