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.. is apparently at the Railway Museum in town at the moment - annoyingly I'm in Bristol, so could someone who's nearby pop down there and give him the Joe Kinnear treatment. Ta.

I just seen it - hes on TV now

Choo Choo for Gordon.

Old Lock-jaw - I dont believe I've hated any person in life until along came Gordon (we'll look after Scotland, OK) Brown.

Leave the poor chap alone, it's not his fault he's got Asperger's

Pity there is no active trains there to run him over....

See the financial markets don't like him or his ideas either...another 7% fall on the FTSE.

Sub 4000 for a while, who'd have thought.

Excellent time for buying/investing - if only I had some spare cash.

I hadn't heard of Aspergers before so I looked it up, just about sums up our PM.
'Asperger syndrome, the invisible disability, is a form of autism that affects the way a person communicates and relates to others. This can range from difficulty in communicating, social relationships and understanding and a lack of imagination and creative play.'

In fairness, though (having started this), I'd still rather have Brown in charge atm than the Cameron/Osbourne "dream team" - their idea of an economic crisis is a run on the price of tiffin in the tuck shop.

There all as bad as each other is the normal comment, we need to change, I cant think of one thing Brown has done for England (not Britain) since he took over from the President of the USA.

I hate all politicians...........red, blue, orange, green............

Er...have you lost your marbles? Effectively you've just said that you would rather have the 'experience' of 'financial genius' Diamandis in charge of Swindon, rather than the 'novices' of the Trust.  ;) :D

texture like sun

No, I'm not basing it on whether they're experienced or not. I'm basing it on what I've seen and heard of Cameron and Osbourne - the first entirely vapid, Blair-lite clone; the second a waffling incompetent with the hands of the City so far up his jaxy they're tickling his tonsils.

if there were a general election tomorrow id still vote labour.

madness

I'd vote for Suggs

fucking Tory slags

If only to get rid of that fucking advert he's on.

Finer Temptress

Three cheers for the Tories and the Daily Mail, get the Jock out of England (Brown/Malpas Out)

Labour have had 12 years.  Not gone at all well has it?

Whoever wins the next election is going to spend their 1st term sorting out the huge mess that nulab have created.

In the meantime, most of us get poorer and any negligable increase in quality of public services for all nulabs taxing, borrowing & spending will probably go backwards as the government has to tighten it spending

12 years
Achievements: nothing other than a benefits culture and helping to shag the economy up the arse
Cost: tens of billions

I hate them so much.

that's odd they speak highly of you

I dont blame them, I am pretty great

As opposed to Brown - a pusillanimous, delusional, lying, bullying, autistic, mendacious, dithering control freak. Of course Gordon the PM (or is he still Chancellor who knows), who can't even get the basics of taxation right (10p) should be in control of this crisis.   ::)

I dont know what half of those words mean but I agree.

do you honestly think it would be better under blairs clone cameron?
the tories are even more pathetic then labour

ghanimah what a fucking pleonastic sesquipedalian tory slaaaaaaag you are

 :D I found the Tory description bit there most offensive, otherwise yes I agree

I think it's naive to think that whoever is in power makes any discernable difference. Besides, it's irrelevant, i won't vote.

Yes i do. They are not perfect but I'm willing to give them a try on the basis I'm hard pushed to see how they can do any worse

So you've met him then!

and you can fuck off for a start :D

As he's a control freak, he's not only PM, but Chancellor and proably all the cabinet as well.

I think the 'Headcases' programme summed him up...

Has anyone started scooping up the cheap shares yet?

I smell early retirement fund when the market recovers.

So tempting isn't it? If I had a couple of grand spare right now, I'd be buying RBS/Barclays shares. And I work with a guy who lives in the US who's seriously thinking of taking out a $5k loan from Bank of America to buy Bank of America shares - US interest rates are so low right now they're virtually giving it out.

Don't try and repress me, commie.

  Personally I think history will show Brown to have been a great Chancellor, not so sure about PM as it's a bit early to tell....the last 11 years or so have in fact been a minor golden age.

  But all things pass....I'm quite looking forward to a Cameron premiership, so that I can dig up the posts by the Tories on here and give them stick.

The past few months have shown me that Tory,Labour,Republican,Democrat,Green party,National Front have no say....its obvious to me that currently the Monster Raving Loony Party are holding court and have been for some time.

I think I'll just vote UKIP, that Robert Kilroy-Silk is such an ace bloke.

Great chancellor?????? 

You are aware of how indebted the country was even prior to the banking bail out right??

If you define great as meaning spending money in a totally unsustainable way then, yeah he was super mega fucking great.

And he introduced something like 78 new stealth taxes.

  OK then my Tory friend explain to me how it is possible to spend money in a "sustainable" way?

people always moan but in most cases we have never had it so good.jobs are plentifull and people generally have more money in their pockets.

I hope the tories win, The NHS will be safe in there hands, they are right it doesnt need funding anyway.

Tories and Labour are much of a muchness.

NHS is mismanaged and underfunded. Doing it either way will not help. You need not extremes, but a decent mixture of both philosophies.

I dont, I found a hole in mine today and all my change had fallen out, I blame Brown, insisting on cheap foriegn cotton imports, the bastard

I hate politicians who milk a policy because its good for the environment ......whilst investing in Nuclear missle programmes......

Not spending considerably more than you are recieving over a long period thus pushing the counrty to record debt levels just in time for a worldwide recession?

Not spending considerably more than you are recieving over a long period thus pushing the counrty to record debt levels just in time for a worldwide recession?

And I'm not a tory as such, although I do plan to vote for them at the next election. I'm more anti nu-labour than pro anyone. They're fucking useless.

you're posh you are - go on say "naff orf"

yah !

Brown is a legend in europe at the moment

Thats what is pissing me off the most.  I do actually agree with what he has done by and large during the current finacial crisis but how the fuck do you take credit for trying to fix something that you helped create in the 1st place?

Given the US have fallen into line with the same bank rescue plan as we have over here, buying shares in the banks instead of their original plan of buying out the toxic assets, seems the whole world is following his lead.

We've got a guy over from the US for a couple of weeks at work at the moment. He'd been saying the US could never follow our lead in taking a govt stake in the banks as that would be nationalisation (which it isn't btw but that's a separate argument) "and that's just socialism". So after the news broke yesterday, I asked him when he was heading back to the People's Republic of America. He went a very funny colour

Fitton for PM !

As red as his neck ?

Isnt buying shares in the banks just a really obvious thing to do?

As it:

A. Give the banks a capital injection
B. Give the government either control or big influence over the banks operations
C. Allows the government to take dividends from future profits
D. Allows the governments to sell the shares when things have recovered

I could have told them that months ago

Vote Todd.

 The words considerably and long period, are understandably vague. The words country and receive are just misspelt.

Childish

 You'll grow out of it..

Glad you quoted that, wrong thread reg. Apologies

Whatever. To make it less vague for you - 12 years is the time frame.  Funilly enough I dont have the last 12 years budget figures to hand, but theres plenty of info in the public domain that backs me up.

Picking on a couple of typos is the last resort of someone who does not have an arguement on the subject.  I expected better of you Reg.

How much does Iraq owe us then? All that demolition work - surely that will pay for the bonking crisis

I'm with CT & Co on this one.
New labour swept into power as a bunch of "proffesional policticians" who are only in it for the money. It's been going down ever since.
Brown has been the worst of the lot, but not the only culprit. He has devised & increaed so many stealth taxes it isn't true.  The first of many was to effectively remove £5,000,0000,0000 a YEAR from our collective pensions. Soon after he made the brilliant move of selling a big chunk of our gold reserves when the price of gold was at rock bottom. He was fortunate as chancellor to benefit from the growth in the economy which was already underway when they came to power, but despite this has frittered it away, & saved NOTHING for times such as now. They have been shown to be corrupt as in the F1 tobacco affair, Honours for cash & Mandelsons continued reappointments.
The tax system is a bloody mess, Quangos have multiplied despite promises to cut them, they have meddled with some of our basic freedoms throughout, the home office is "Not for for purpose", we were promised & then denied a vote on Europe, Council tax has gone through the roof, & immigration is totally out of controll.

I could go on, but suffice to say they will never get my vote.

Did you mean 5 billion?

I dont like David Millyband

Labour, Tories, Liberals .........all the same.........give in one hand and snatch more away in the other......

Anybody who believes that they are better off under a particular party is deluded!

All we are witnessing is the swing of the political pendulum.  Comments about Brown at the moment are very much along the same lines as comments made about Major in 1995 - but you could substitute gripes about selling of gold reserves and introduction of stealth taxes for the ERM exit and sleaze.

Depressingly, two party politics works something like this...

Party A gets in.  Most people happy to have a change of government.  There's a honeymoon period.  Optimism abounds and we're all happy to have given Party B a kicking in the polls.  Then Party A gets complacent.  Party A makes mistakes and Party A realises being in Government is a lot harder than being in Opposition.  Party A starts to make enemies and, eventually, looks doomed to defeat at the next election.

Party B gets in.  Most people happy to have a change of government.  There's a honeymoon period.  Optimism abounds and we're all happy to have given Party A a kicking in the polls.  Then Party B gets complacent.  Party B makes mistakes and Party B realises being in Government is a lot harder than being in Opposition.  Party B starts to make enemies and, eventually, looks doomed to defeat at the next election.

Party A gets in.  Most people happy to have a change of government.  There's a honeymoon period.  Optimism abounds and we're all happy to have given Party B a kicking in the polls.  Then Party A gets complacent.  Party A makes mistakes and Party A realises being in Government is a lot harder than being in Opposition.  Party A starts to make enemies and, eventually, looks doomed to defeat at the next election.

Party B gets in.  Most people happy to have a change of government.  There's a honeymoon period.  Optimism abounds and we're all happy to have given Party A a kicking in the polls.  Then Party B gets complacent.  Party B makes mistakes and Party B realises being in Government is a lot harder than being in Opposition.  Party B starts to make enemies and, eventually, looks doomed to defeat at the next election.

etc. etc.
etc. etc.

You must be bored? i read all that and read it as they are all the same

You're good.

You're special.

I read it all too, to make sure he'd remembered to switch the A's and B's round properly. I really need to get out a LOT more

never a frown with gordon brown

Gordon brown texture like sun

two distant lands.......

something about a mast......