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Title: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Luci on Friday, September 12, 2008, 08:28:39
On the OS Malpas says he is going for a more attacking display tomorrow - could this mean we will possibly see Macca and Marshall on the wings?

I wouldn't be adverse to that idea, but what do people reckon? 


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, September 12, 2008, 08:34:50
I say go for it! Leeds won't know what hit them if we come flying out the blocks.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 12, 2008, 08:37:50
Shoot


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 08:40:34
Shoot

Score


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: nevillew on Friday, September 12, 2008, 09:00:44
High risk tactic. Would our added attacking option outweigh the fact we'll get totally overrun in midfield ?


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, September 12, 2008, 09:02:48
I'd approach it like any other game. Don't give them time on the ball, and don't sit back.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 09:05:38
Not sure I'd start Marshall in this game


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:06:37
win


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:18:52
I'd approach it like any other game. Don't give them time on the ball, and don't sit back.
Good plan. I really think Marshall deserves a start but I don't think this is the right time to do it. I'm not sure who I'd play on the right but this whole 3 CM's nonsense needs to stop to give us some width. And that doesn't mean we should put Paynter out wide!


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Rustle on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:27:29
Close them down everytime they get into our half unlike we did against colchester where yeates bossed the midfield,If we let howson and co do this we are in trouble.

I think i would leave marshall on the bench and bring him on if we go a goal down or maybe the second half,to be honest i thought we done ok last season and yet macca didt play it was roberts,So this time around we have tricky winger who can get in behind their defence and get some crosses to cox,paynter or corr.

My only concern is centre midfield being a bit lightweight,nalis and timlin dont seem to get stuck in enough at times.

4-4-2 seems the best option if the centre midfield do their job.

Thats just my opinon tho what do i know about football Management.  


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:35:46
Close them down everytime they get into our half unlike we did against colchester where yeates bossed the midfield,If we let howson and co do this we are in trouble.

I think i would leave marshall on the bench and bring him on if we go a goal down or maybe the second half,to be honest i thought we done ok last season and yet macca didt play it was roberts,So this time around we have tricky winger who can get in behind their defence and get some crosses to cox,paynter or corr.

My only concern is centre midfield being a bit lightweight,nalis and timlin dont seem to get stuck in enough at times.

4-4-2 seems the best option if the centre midfield do their job.

Thats just my opinon tho what do i know about football Management.  
I'd play Nalis and Easton in the middle to be honest. Easton usually knows when to stick the boot in


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:36:36
Attack, attack, attack attack attack.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: janaage on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:45:23
Defend defend defend defend defend, well.

Marshall on the bench for me, bring him on as an impact player if we need him. 


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Rustle on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:45:52
I'd play Nalis and Easton in the middle to be honest. Easton usually knows when to stick the boot in

I would go along with that with jp on the right,Maybe nalis over timlin as he tends to have more creative vision.  


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: fatbury on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:47:54
Kick them before they kick us??


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:53:47
I'd play

Smith

Amankwaaaah
Beast
Aljofree
Smith

Nalis
Timlin
Easton

Macca

Paynter
Cox

Subs
Morrison
McGovern
Marshall
Corr
Brez


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:00:28
Score one more than them.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: janaage on Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:00:56
I'd play that team too (CT's team), but have Macca on the left and Easton on the right, no matter how lop sided it may look Easton does a good enough job out there, and wades in going forward.  Marshall to be brought on for impact 2nd half.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:12:05
Score one more than them.

What he said, but with a slight change: "Score at least one more than them"


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:18:33
I'd play that team too (CT's team), but have Macca on the left and Easton on the right, no matter how lop sided it may look Easton does a good enough job out there, and wades in going forward.  Marshall to be brought on for impact 2nd half.

Agree, I just struggled to illustrate the point there.  I'd have Easton tucking in a little, somewhere between a right winger and a centre midfielder.  I dont buy this "team needs to be symmetrical with 2 old fashioned wingers either side" business.  If we are losing or its not working, then bring on Marshall for Timlin to change things,  Easton in the middle.

I'm not really sure whats going on with Timlins form, its so up and down. He was class against pompey pre season and v Tranmere, yet he's has some really poor games as well.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:23:50
I'll be supporting tactics.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:24:34
if we play timlin and nalis in the middle we will get battered


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:56:13
I dont buy this "team needs to be symmetrical with 2 old fashioned wingers either side" business.  If we are losing or its not working, then bring on Marshall for Timlin to change things,  Easton in the middle.
I get your point, but at MK one of the reasons we did nothing for the first 45 minutes was that Macca was marked out of it on the left, and there was nobody out on the right


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: DV on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:00:44
I think Malpas will stick with the 4-3-1-2 but I have a feeling he might start with Marshall and drop McNamee...


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:01:34
I get your point, but at MK one of the reasons we did nothing for the first 45 minutes was that Macca was marked out of it on the left, and there was nobody out on the right

But if we're starting games presuming that Macca is going to be ineffective then he might as well not play.

If Macca does get marked out the game then it's something you change with a substitution or a re-shuffle, I don't think we should go into games presuming it's going to happen, especially at home.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Tails on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:01:55
^^ What he said, but it's not as if we won't have time to change things.

I think we need Easton in the middle this game, he does a good job on the right hand side but if he isn't in the middle I can see Leeds walking through us.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: A Gent Orange on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:05:17
We will need to get tight to them because as proven the other week their shooting from range is very good. And for that reason I can see Malpas going for the 4312 or perhaps the 442 with Easton (or perhaps JPM).



Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:19:14
I sort of agree that we need to break it up in midfield.

Gurney and Turbo.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:20:32
Tictacs v Leeds

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Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:23:29
What are the black ones? I've never seen them.

Or is it just flashing to fast and making my eyes hurt and confused.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:24:36
But if we're starting games presuming that Macca is going to be ineffective then he might as well not play.

If Macca does get marked out the game then it's something you change with a substitution or a re-shuffle, I don't think we should go into games presuming it's going to happen, especially at home.
That's not the point I was trying to make. The fact that we looked to the left hand side every time made it easy for them to mark him out as they only had half a pitch to defend. If we spread it out to both wings we're more likely to stretch them and create gaps on the left and down the middle


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 13:36:55
That's not the point I was trying to make. The fact that we looked to the left hand side every time made it easy for them to mark him out as they only had half a pitch to defend. If we spread it out to both wings we're more likely to stretch them and create gaps on the left and down the middle

Clearly this is true, but we are also less likley to be over-run in central midfield. pros & cons.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 12, 2008, 14:28:49
i'd start with mcgovern,easton in alongside nalis,and macca down the left and set them up 4,4,2.
marshall is too much of a risk to start this game imo


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, September 12, 2008, 14:37:53
I wonder whether he can catch everyone unaware and throw Marshall Right, Easton and Nalis in the middle with Timlin on the left? After all Timlin is left pegged and used to be considered as a viable option on the left.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:04:55
And drop our most talented player who reserves his best form for home games? 

Have a word with yourself Barry

Lets catch them unawares and play Barry Corr right back as well yeah? ;)


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: herthab on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:07:18
Get into them.

Fuck them up.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:10:34
Get into them.

Fuck them up.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Flea on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:10:57
I think weve got to have te right pairing in the centre midfield. Macca has to play on the left and it would be interesting to have Marshall on the right.  


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:11:58
My managerial record is better than yours Toddy.

Of course dropping McNamee is stupid. I'm just throwing a thought out there, it's just one means of creating this mythical balance people talk of without a suicidal attack.

Personally i'd have Marshall and McNamee on the wings, play Easton, Timlin and Nalis in the middle and have Ifil, Aljofree and Vincent/Kanyuka/Morrison (i forget who's injured out of those 3) at the back.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:14:53
My managerial record is better than yours Toddy.


Who's isnt?


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:15:48
I dont see any need to change the team.If we keep switching the defence we will keep conceding goals,they team time to gel now


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: herthab on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:17:55
Ithink the team that Toddy posted is the team that started at hurrrferd.........


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:22:28
oh i did not read his post he talks shit :)


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: herthab on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:24:44
If I only read posts by people who didn't talk shit, I wouldn't read any.

Including my own.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:30:21
If i posted something that wasn't shit, i'd have a job and wouldn't be posting. Although i do have a job and still post, so i must speak shit regardless.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:32:19
so who was talking shit?


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:32:44
You Colin you


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:34:58
oh right. thanks for the heads up


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:41:46
No problem, hope you are well.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:42:14
If MM is serious about attacking them then why not play the all out attack option of 3 at the back.

Smith

Amankwaaaah
Beast
Aljofree

Wee Maccal
Nalis (holding midfield just in front of the back 3)
Timlin
Easton
Marshall

Paynter (or Corr because he has a point to prove)
Cox

Then just get loads of balls in the box and get at them down the both wings...they wont know what has hit them.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:47:00

Barry Scott, If I say playing Timlin on the left wing was a good idea can you ban Don Rodgers Shop please?

He's really hurt my feelings and masturbates over Mike diamandis apparantly. 

If thats not a banning offence I dont know what is


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, September 12, 2008, 15:54:13
Barry Scott, If I say playing Timlin on the left wing was a good idea can you ban Don Rodgers Shop please?

He's really hurt my feelings and masturbates over Mike diamandis apparantly. 

If thats not a banning offence I dont know what is

I think asking for other people to be banned should be a bannable offense.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 12, 2008, 16:00:18
jj dont like you line up at all for this game i'm afraid.that would give us no defensive cover down the flanks and i reckon we'd get hammered.on another day against a weaker team then maybe,but not tomorrow.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 12, 2008, 16:21:22
jj dont like you line up at all for this game i'm afraid.that would give us no defensive cover down the flanks and i reckon we'd get hammered.on another day against a weaker team then maybe,but not tomorrow.

You are probably correct Arriba, but I would love us to really attack them like Oldham did early in the season, take the game to them.


Title: Re: Tactics V Leeds
Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 12, 2008, 16:38:00
we have to take the game to them for sure jj.thing is so many line ups and players are available.let's hope malpas gets it right