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Title: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:05:06 Quote 'Representing your country is the ultimate honour, especially in the World Cup. Not to me. 'Did I care we'd gone out of the tournament? Of course I did. Passionately. I've never given less than 100% in any game. 'Despite this, whenever I returned home from disappointing England experiences one unshakeable, overriding thought pushed itself to the forefront of my mind, no matter how much the rest of the nation mourned. 'At least it wasn't Liverpool,' I'd repeat to myself, over and over. The text messages of consolation I received on the coach included one from Kenny Dalglish. 'I would rather miss for England than LFC,' I wrote back. I confess: defeats wearing an England shirt never hurt me in the same way as losing with my club. 'I wasn't caring or indifferent, I simply didn't put England's fortunes at the top of my priority list. Losing felt like a disappointment rather than a calamity. 'I was never in love with playing for England in the first place. By the time I stopped I felt a huge weight lifting.' I can't work out if it was put in as he knew it would bring publicity for his book or whether he really means it, ro whether it was sour grapes ecause he was never good enough to command a regular England spot . Truth is it backs up what many already thought. No wonder the bunch of fuckers are useless if they all have this attitude. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:08:00 They prefer playing club football because they get a lot of money for it. That's all really. None of the current crop have ever cared about playing for England except maybe Beckham.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:13:04 They prefer playing club football because they get a lot of money for it. That's all really. None of the current crop have ever cared about playing for England except maybe Beckham. I'd pretty much agree with that, although I'd put Michael Owen in the caring bracket as well. I remember years back when it looked like we might miss a qualification, maybe the Greece game, when you felt, most of teh cunts would prefer to be on a beach somewhere spending their millions....it was easy to imagine Beckham being the prime culprit here, but of course he dragged us through more or less on his own. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:17:50 The words of a bitter man
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:25:50 Carragher has won pretty much everything except the league and any international honours. He's always been a fringe player even when he deserved more with Engerland - I guess I'd be bitter too, even if England was of utmost priority to me (which it would, alongside Swindon!).
There are so many people that play for England and probably see it as a midweek chore as opposed to it being an honour. The inclusion of Jimmy Bullard has been refreshing as it's clear that that man wants to play for his nation. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:41:52 I like Bullard. He's one of them players that gives 100% every time he steps onto the pitch. We do need them types in the England shirt.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Lumps on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:50:00 I think he's probably just being honest.
He's a one player club that plays for his home town club. He's a first choice player at his club side. Why is it a suprise that he cares more about the results of the team that he plays for every week and has been with since he was a lad, than a national team that he used to get together with a few times a year and was only ever on the fringes of. I care more about Swindon's results than I've ever cared about my national side. I'm sure most of you do too. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: leefer on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 18:55:29 The fact is average players rack up 50 caps...its not special any more,i mean does playing Andorra get the juices flowing for top players...it should do but i doubt it does.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 19:01:45 The fact is average players rack up 50 caps...its not special any more,i mean does playing Andorra get the juices flowing for top players...it should do but i doubt it does. It shouldn't matter who England are playing. Andorra have just as much right to enter these competitions as us. It must be a chore for the likes of Brazil to always play inferior opposition... but they all ten to enjoy playing for their country. No excuse - the England call up should be honoured all we might as well not bother...................................................... and form Team GB. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 22:20:38 I wonder if Carragher would rather miss for LFC rather than being not good enough to play for England?
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 22:46:13 I think he's probably just being honest. Yes, that's the problem. He shouldn't come out with crap like that even if he has a book coming out. He was happy enough to pick up his England pay (and associated club callup bonuses) yet "didn't put England's fortunes at the top of my priority list. Losing felt like a disappointment rather than a calamity." I do want our national team to win, but I have become dissillusioned and disconnected with them and crap like that doesn't help. Is it any wonder we haven't won anything since '66 Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 23:32:56 this coming from the same say guy who the other day said he wanted to become Liverpool manager and destroy Alex Ferguson then went in to admint he was a boyhood Everton fan
to be honest, if hes got a new book out hes trying to create publicity because honestly, who gives a fuck about what Jamie Carragher thinks... Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 06:43:21 Can I hold out any hope that this isn't a crap shadow written autobiography cash-in and he's actually gone and written a dystopian thriller?
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 13:43:24 The inclusion of Jimmy Bullard has been refreshing as it's clear that that man wants to play for his nation. I assume for that statement you did not hear Bullard before the 2006 World Cup when he said he would be ready and waiting if he recieved a phone call from Klinsmann for a call-up to the squad (his grandmother is German) Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 13:48:23 Being desperate to play for any nation is still better than not giving a shit at all.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: tans on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 15:54:13 I want to see England play South Ossetia or somewhere else random.
Dont they have that world cup for nations that arent affiliated to FIFA? Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 16:01:55 Dont they have that world cup for nations that arent affiliated to FIFA? Isn't that the the VIVA World Cup? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIVA_World_Cup Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 18:10:49 cheap publicity, funny how he says all this after he retired after never getting picked, fucking toffee cunt
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: janaage on Friday, September 5, 2008, 11:35:17 Jamie Carragher's a kj of the highest order. That radio clip of him offering out the talksport presenter is priceless, he sounded like a very stupid man that day.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 5, 2008, 12:17:12 On a serious note though they cant win can they. When fans say they dont care and a player comes out saying its rubbish etc the fans still get on their backs saying they dont believe them.
When a player comes out confirming what everyone thinks he is a wanker Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: janaage on Friday, September 5, 2008, 12:23:00 He is a wanker though DRS.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 5, 2008, 12:23:41 Yeah granted he is but not for saying that about England
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, September 5, 2008, 14:12:51 I work with 3 English chaps and we where talking about England today, and the general consencus is that we just can't be arsed.
If it was Swindon playing then I'd stay up for it (I'll be listening in tonight, 1.45 am kick off for me), but England.... MEH! I have more important things to do at that time, such as sleeping. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Arriba on Friday, September 5, 2008, 15:10:36 carraghers points are fair enough imo.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Ardiles on Friday, September 5, 2008, 15:24:56 I think what he says is fair enough. From a fan's point of view, a growing number of us are all saying the same thing. When I see England play, I see (with a few exceptions) a collection of self-obsessed, overpaid primadonnas whose lives are so far removed from those of the general population that the player/fan bond has been broken.
When I see Capello discussing Rio Ferdinand or Ashley Cole or even Beckham, I find myself thinking 'Fine, but what's that got to do with me?' There's no connection there. So if the magic is fading for the fans, I'm not surprised at all that it is for the players as well. Compare and contrast with your average England rugby player. There is some commercialisation there as well, but rugby players will never have the same earning power...and I think there has to be a connection. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 5, 2008, 15:33:01 It helps that the majority of the Rugby team are capable of stringing a couple of sentances together as well.
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Lumps on Friday, September 5, 2008, 15:40:22 Jamie Carragher's a kj of the highest order. That radio clip of him offering out the talksport presenter is priceless, he sounded like a very stupid man that day. I'd of thought offering to chin a presenter from talksport, with the exceptions of Danny K and H&K of course, is an entirely rational position to adopt. I caught a couple of the fuckers talking about this stuff Carraghers been saying in the last couple of days and having the brassneck to criticise him for being deliberately controversial just to publicise his book. Errrrr? Pot -----Kettle-------Black. This is talksport were talking about here. The home of the entirely manufactured argument about fuck all. Home of Adrian "Rangers should play in the Premier League to stamp out the horrors of sectarian hooliganism in Scottish football" Durham (Where the FUCK did that one come from? Has there been some string of sectarian murders in Glasgow that I've missed or what? Otherwise, seeing as that debate was yesterrday and coincided with the final winding up of the IRA Army Council I think Adrian might have missed the fucking boat a little). Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Batch on Friday, September 5, 2008, 16:00:20 I think what he says is fair enough. From a fan's point of view, a growing number of us are all saying the same thing. But if the players played with the passion and pride an England shirt should deserve, would we feel the way we do? If England were a team to be proud of I think the nation would get behind them. Are the people of Spain feeling disconnected from the national team as we do now they have won the Euros. Surely the Spanish league is nearly as affluent as the Prem, and the gap between the haves and have nots in Spain is is bigger than here (based on EU development grants it gets granted!), Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, September 5, 2008, 16:26:19 So if the magic is fading for the fans, I'm not surprised at all that it is for the players as well. Fair point, but what came first. The Chicken or the egg? Oh and janaages "kj", I am guessing here but does that mean Knob Jockey? Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, September 5, 2008, 16:27:58 Kinky jock?
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, September 6, 2008, 13:16:50 Another quote from his 'book':
When my leg was broken in an horrific tackle by Lucas Neill in September 2003, my mates were ready to hunt him down if I gave the go-ahead. A few weeks later I received a phone call. "You won't believe this, Jay. We're in the Trafford Centre and Lucas Neill is walking straight towards us. What do you reckon?" Did I really want Neill to take a crack? "There's only one problem," added the voice. "Little Davey Thommo is with him." That was that. I could hardly let one of my best mates, David Thompson, now a Blackburn player, become a witness to an assault. Besides he'd have recognised the attackers. The impromptu mission was aborted and I sent a text to Thommo telling him Neill should give him a hug of thanks. As word got back to Blackburn about the near miss, or should that be hit, their coach Terry Darracott, a Scouser, appealed to one of my friends to call the boys off. I agreed. Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: tans on Saturday, September 6, 2008, 14:05:09 what a twat
Title: Re: Carragher on playing for England Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, September 6, 2008, 15:59:03 Sensationalised bollocks really. If they were in the Trafford Centre there would be loads of witnesses and security is pretty hot there.
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