Title: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:07:17 Someone who I used to work with in Banbury told me that the Pox are in the shit. Thought he was winding me up so did some investigation and here are some posts from the scum forum. I wouldn't want them to go bust but seems like non league football is finally taking its toll on the scum
http://www.oxvox.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=193 http://www.oxfordshireforums.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=83773 http://www.oxfordshireforums.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=83576&whichpage=1 http://www.oxfordshireforums.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=83791 Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:09:48 I used to think that - but FUCK em... Demotion will suffice as I wouldn't wish the loss of a football club on anyone.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: JPC82 on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:10:32 couldnt care less about Oxford
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:11:36 Someone's said the current owners make Kassam look good. Silly inbred, Kassam was surely the one that did the damage.
Does FK still charge them a rent for the three stands and the car park? Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Batch on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:13:49 Them being a footballing joke makes me happy. I wouldn't wish going bust on them really, I used t think I would but after it nearly happened to us I kind f lost my sense of humour on this.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Tails on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:14:36 Hope they do alright. Wouldn't want them to go bust really, despite the reaction by some of their fans when we were close to the wire.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:15:40 Someone's said the current owners make Kassam look good. Silly inbred, Kassam was surely the one that did the damage. Does FK still charge them a rent for the three stands and the car park? It's the lack of stadium ownership which has assisted there plight surely. That and not getting promoted from the Conference straight away I'd be interested to see if it's Merry that's gone bankrupt - all it does is solidify Fitton & Co's business mentality of slowly but surely. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:18:38 It's the lack of stadium ownership which has assisted there plight surely. That and not getting promoted from the Conference straight away I'd be interested to see if it's Merry that's gone bankrupt - all it does is solidify Fitton & Co's business mentality of slowly but surely. You get the feeling that BEST or MD would have done a similar thing had we got a new stadium. New stadiums increase revenue streams but it all depends where the money goes. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:18:51 I think they expected to be promoted back to the league right away so paid stupid wages etc and went OTT as the divisions big spenders however now they are stuck for a third season in that division. I dare say some players are still on decent wages, gates are dropping below 4k and they dont own the stadium but fund youth set-ups etc.... Apparently they are losing 500K a year like us but are going nowhere on the pitch. Kassam is laughing really. He knows should the club go bust etc or get close to it he can buy them on the cheap etc and drip feed them etc. I dont know if the stadium loses money as well though?
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Tails on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:19:43 I remember when Merry took over and brought Smith with him, the euphoria of the place was immense and they were certain that good things were just around the corner... Now look at them. I just hope the similar feeling we had when Fitton took over doesn't lead to the same kind of scenario, although I can't help but feel we've been relatively sensible and not banked on getting promoted like the yellow few did.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:20:19 It was blatant they were in trouble when they started making loads on loan signings... That's what we did!
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:20:55 FK does indeed still charge a rather tasty rent and I don't believe the club gets revenue from the grounds facilities as a matter of course. I think they get matchday related revenues but I'm not so sure they get the weekday Conference stuff and Catering etc.
Would never want any club to face winding-up. We spent long enough battling to get our club saved from the brink to know what it's like, and while they can wallow in the pub league forever, I wish them to do so as opposed to not existing at all. I think the new ownership were a little naive there, thinking they could get the ground side of things sorted out, and continued spending on wages accordingly - I remember them mentioning they'd hit trouble when they had to comply with the wage limit, which they didn't have to in the 1st season. Should have adjusted pronto rather than hoping for the best. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:24:41 Maybe they can buy Oxford City's ground and redevelop it! :)
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: michael on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:28:40 Kassam is laughing really. He knows should the club go bust etc or get close to it he can buy them on the cheap etc and drip feed them etc. I think you will find that the club has served it's purpose to Kassam, as he now has his conference facility, hotel, bowling alley and whatever else is on that site and came about as part of the stadium build. When he was chairman these all had to subsidise the football club, but now he is free of that. I'm sure that Oxford will survive, somehow, but they are in one hell of a mess. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:31:40 The problem is the Conference are very strict on finances, so if they did so much as enter Admin they could see themselves slipping 1 or 2 divisions as punishment these days.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: michael on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:33:18 Into the same division as Supermarine then?
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:33:37 Typical Trust busybodies...stir up some shit when none exists, claiming to represent the fans...they've about 300 members.
The TIU forum seems to consist of accountants and journos, and mongs that feckless, they make thisis look like University Challenge. Therefore I would take Gazzza's mate's rumour witha pinch of salt. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 1, 2008, 21:37:20 Yeah I just had a bit of a snoop and it looks like Firoz's stadium company gets a healthy turnover. Still makes losses though. Probably doesn't care.
Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 07:40:19 Would never want any club to face winding-up. There's one 'club' that's an exception to that in my view. Wouldn't wish Oxford to go bust though, if only because it means that the last game between us was the Cup match a couple of years ago >:( The thought that there may not be a chance to play them ever again and get revenge is not a happy one. Title: Re: Oxford In Financial Ruin Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 4, 2008, 17:49:11 I think the crux of it is that they are loosing £500k a year, and their old mate Kassam charges them £400k a year for the stadium.
Somehow they are commited to a 25 year lease on the Kassam, so they cant even leave and go and play somewhere else. They have 3,000 season ticket holders, so if they do start dipping below 3,500 on a matchday I think you can assume they are heading up shit creak. |