Title: team gb Post by: sonic youth on Monday, August 25, 2008, 21:52:50 i just had a thought.
aside from the political issues, the key reason nobody is keen on having a british football team at the olympics in 2012 is because it could adversely affect the individual standings of the representative football associations. why not have a team comprised of amateurs instead? i don't understand very well how the system works, so it may not be possible but if the amateurs weren't representing any football association then FIFA/UEFA can't say that all four countries must now compete as one in future competitions. regardless, it'd be nice to see amateur footballers competing for a prize that professionals wouldn't give a shit about. Title: Re: team gb Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 25, 2008, 21:54:07 I think there should be a team GB but using amateur players instead of pro players as not to affect our individual standings with UEFA and FIFA.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: sonic youth on Monday, August 25, 2008, 21:57:39 isn't that what i just suggested?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 25, 2008, 21:58:40 hahaha.quality
Title: Re: team gb Post by: sonic youth on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:00:01 sometimes i feel like i'm underappreciated around here.
you'd miss me if i was gone. Title: Re: team gb Post by: flammableBen on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:00:12 I was thinking something similar the other day. Don't they already do some sort of non-league england XI thing?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: axs on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:07:41 so basically poxford versus argentina U23's?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:14:46 i like the idea.imagine how the nation would get behind a team of nobodys who will bust a gut and give their all.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:23:32 so basically poxford versus argentina U23's? Amateurs, not pub players. I think we should revisit history...the forerunner of the UEFA Cup, the Fairs Cup, started out with cities being represented by teams composed of players from the city....so for the first final London v Barcelona This was the London team....: Jack Kelsey (Ars), Peter Sillett (Che), Jim Langley (Ful), Danny Blanchflower (Tot), Maurice Norman (Tot), Ken Coote (Bre), Vic Groves (Ars), Jimmy Greaves (Che), Bobby Smith (Tot), Johnny Haynes (Ful), George Robb (Tot). Barcelona had a couple of token Periquitos...won 8-2 on aggregate. So stick in a London team... Title: Re: team gb Post by: pauld on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:26:53 I was thinking something similar the other day. Don't they already do some sort of non-league england XI thing? Yep, it's the "National Game XI" or used to be anyway. And unlike their pro counterparts, they actually win things - no wonder they can't get pro contracts with that kind of attitude.Title: Re: team gb Post by: yeo on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:38:15 Maybe we should have a team of amatuers?
:) Title: Re: team gb Post by: flammableBen on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:39:21 Would you go say any non-league players or proper part-timers? Most the conference teamsare full time aren't they?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: yeo on Monday, August 25, 2008, 22:45:56 There was thing on the radio about an England Learning Difficulties 11 the other week.They had to take stringent tests to prove that they weren't clever.Thats the route to go down I reckon,the the Jocks will probably be over represented
Title: Re: team gb Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 05:47:55 isn't that what i just suggested? I was agreeing more to the point young sonic! Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 08:12:54 Why does the "0" in the 2012 logo look like Australia? Is it meant to?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 08:34:25 I can't get passed it looking like Lisa Simpson giving a blow job. Ever since someone made that comment it is all I can see/
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 08:52:24 :D I mentioned it t'other day on here - but I think it was discussed on TEF when it was unveiled.
[url width=385 height=450]http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2007/06/04/2012_logo_white_385x450.jpg[/url] Title: Re: team gb Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 09:35:04 Why dont they use the England C time and that level, i belive thats Conference and lower?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 09:44:39 I still think it's too much hassle. Who cares? Football is a token sport at the Olympics anyway. We have two international competitions England, Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron are utterly useless at, why combine to add a third team effort of inept football?
The Euro's are held in Poland and Ukraine that year too - that is surely the priority? If we field Semi-Pro, students, whatever against Brazil, Argentina et al who take this seriously then we'll be embarressed. It's a waste of time. Title: Re: team gb Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 10:46:09 I still think it's too much hassle. Who cares? Football is a token sport at the Olympics anyway. We have two international competitions England, Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron are utterly useless at, why combine to add a third team effort of inept football? The Euro's are held in Poland and Ukraine that year too - that is surely the priority? If we field Semi-Pro, students, whatever against Brazil, Argentina et al who take this seriously then we'll be embarressed. It's a waste of time. Is it possible to enter a women's team and not a men's? Women's football, is desperate for exposure....(having watched a Swindon Ladies' bird, take her shirt off and throw it to the ground on receiving a red card) it has to be a good thing. The England team isn't too shabby right now....no idea if the rest of the UK is any good....but we need a women's team there. As hosts we have a straight right of entry to all comps, and I suspect there is some sort of moral imperative to enter a team in all of them. The point about Euro 2012 is valid, if we qualify Title: Re: team gb Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:16:01 Just enter the England U21 team.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:26:37 Just enter the England U21 team. Sounds like a gay Gary Glitter tactic to me. Title: Re: team gb Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:31:15 Any GB team needs to be under 23 anyway, apart from 3 (i think) over 23's allowed. This always gets missed out of any argument it seems
Title: Re: team gb Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:32:49 Shouldn't even be in the Olympics to be honest, no sport should be unless getting Gold in the Olympics is considered the pinnacle of acheivement in that sport. Therefore Tennis should also be removed.
If the sport has to stay in it, then we should enter in the true spirit of the Olympics and send in the part timers, England C. For those guys it will mean something, and wuite frankly, provided they take it seriously, that's all I would ask. Rather that than having some collection of overpaid pro's for whom it's less important than their pre season training. Title: Re: team gb Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 14:30:18 MUST.....NOT.... BITE.....
I cant believe all you english folk are so ambivalent at the prospect of losing your national team and having it replaced by Gordon Browns last ditch attempt to preserve the union. Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 14:40:27 I found an interesting article on the beeb over the weekend where Blatter (in March) was quoted as saying a British team at the Olympics would endanger the four separate nations' membership of FIFA. Only a couple of months later he back tracks, just goes to show he cannot be trusted.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 14:40:37 Let's be honest, any team made up of players from the whole of Britain would be 85% English anyway.
It'd only be those (lesser) celtic nations that would lose their national team. Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 14:45:45 "Gone Fishin"
Title: Re: team gb Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 15:03:24 Not a fish it's just fact mate.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 15:11:12 Not at all, why would any sane manager pick 11 english over paid, big headed kj's with over inflated ego's. england have a dreadful team spirit, unlike the Scots for example. And your argument fails as soon as start to pick the team, best keeper in Britain - Craig Gordon, who last time I checked isn't english.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 15:22:04 Not at all, why would any sane manager pick 11 english over paid, big headed kj's with over inflated ego's. england have a dreadful team spirit, unlike the Scots for example. And your argument fails as soon as start to pick the team, best keeper in Britain - Craig Gordon, who last time I checked isn't english. I've seen Craig Gordon many times and the odd great save aside, is vastly overrated - just like every keeper in the UK!!! He has a shoddy defence in front of him I grant you. I think we get the message though - the Scots are on the up - England are overpaid egomaniacs - like we didn't know ;) Anywho, it'll be a Scotsman who'll probably lead these gang of renegades in 2012.... If he's in then I blame Scotland if this farce is approved :D Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 15:55:42 I can't see Fergie doing it.
Gordon for Scotland > Gordon for Sunderland. And anyone would struggle keeping goal for the Mackems. Title: Re: team gb Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 16:50:11 Not at all, why would any sane manager pick 11 english over paid, big headed kj's with over inflated ego's. england have a dreadful team spirit, unlike the Scots for example. And your argument fails as soon as start to pick the team, best keeper in Britain - Craig Gordon, who last time I checked isn't english. See you love it really. RULE BRITTANIA! Title: Re: team gb Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:30:00 Not at all, why would any sane manager pick 11 english over paid, big headed kj's with over inflated ego's. england have a dreadful team spirit, unlike the Scots for example. And your argument fails as soon as start to pick the team, best keeper in Britain - Craig Gordon, who last time I checked isn't english. Hence why i said 85% and not 100%. Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:58:56 So if there were 2 non english players selected your theory is shot out the water. A "British" side containing Gordon, Hutton and Bale, in a couple of years wouldn't be too unexpected (talking general terms not for the Olympics).
Title: Re: team gb Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:27:26 I'd be happy with that. Don't forget a squad is made up of more than 11 players though Jan.
Title: Re: team gb Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:01:39 Fair point Jay, but your original post stated any "team"...... not squad. Can we call it a day on this one now?
Title: Re: team gb Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 13:01:20 I'm bored - I also don't want Team GB F.C. to happen. But here's my Great Britain squad if it was this year and everyone was fit. I've not put a whole lot of effort into it, simply using wikipedia to get information. I've tried to incorporate all nations. (1-11 isn't my first XI either) It's not to be taken seriously ;)
01. Craig Gordon (25) Scotland 02. Alan Hutton (23) Scotland 03. Gareth Bale (19) Wales 04. Steven Taylor (22) England 05. Micah Richards (20) England 06. Aaron Ramsey (19) Wales 07. David Bentley (23) England 08. Ashley Young (23) England 09. Wayne Rooney (22) England 10. David Healy (29) Northern Ireland 11. James Milner (22) England 12. Jamie O'Hara (21) England 13. Joe Hart (21) England 14. Steve Davis (23) Northern Ireland 15. Theo Walcott (19) England 16. Jonny Evans (19) Northern Ireland 17. Scott Brown (23) Scotland 18. Chris Gunter (19) Wales 19. Tom Huddlestone (21) England 20. James Morrison (22) Scotland 21. Ross McCormack (22) Scotland 22. Gabriel Agbonlahor (21) England 23. Ben Alnwick (21) England M. Stuart Pearce (Eng) |