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Title: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 12:07:02
Alonso out first lap.

Bit disgraceful they did not allow a one minutes silence before the race for those who died in Madrid.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 12:18:38
Alonso, out at both Spanish venues, the crowd weren't too happy!



Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 12:24:36
Pretty boring race, I thought this track had been designed to help overtaking??


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:18:52
Bloody hell that poor Ferrari mechanic, looks pretty badly hurt.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:20:02
Bloody hell that poor Ferrari mechanic, looks pretty badly hurt.

Driver error, the green light was not on when he pulled away.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:21:24
That's got to have hurt.

Why wait until the end to decide on the Massa incident?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:21:37
Really?  I just thought the mechanic had pressed the button but the fuel hose didn't detach smoothy?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:22:30
That's got to have hurt.

Why wait until the end to decide on the Massa incident?

I popped out of the room for 5 mins to grab some food, what actually happened with the Massa incident?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:22:42
Alonso out first lap.

 :D


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:22:56
Really?  I just thought the mechanic had pressed the button but the fuel hose didn't detach smoothy?

That's what they thought, but shown the camera from the pits and the red light was still on.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:23:32
Ohhhh I see.  Cheers!


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:23:48
what happened? someone got run over?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:24:22
I popped out of the room for 5 mins to grab some food, what actually happened with the Massa incident?

Releasing Massa in the pit lane in an unsafe way (into Sutils path).


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:25:14
Oh I saw a replay of that, thought it might have been something involving Lewis dammit.

Why didn't they just give Massa a penalty there and then?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:25:31
what happened? someone got run over?

Kimmi's fuel rig man had not released the hose when Kimmi set off. Hose dragged mechanic down to the ground as it was on his shoulder.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:26:10
Oh I saw a replay of that, thought it might have been something involving Lewis dammit.

Why didn't they just give Massa a penalty there and then?

Very silly isn't it. So he will be the winner and then lose the race 2 hours later, flipping daft.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:27:17
I don't see what they need to investigate!  It was clearly a dangerous move by Ferrari and he should have been given a drive through. 


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:28:11
I don't see what they need to investigate!  It was clearly a dangerous move by Ferrari and he should have been given a drive through. 
Just said it wont be punished in this race, but probably gets a 10 place drop at the start for the next race. Rubbish decision if that happens.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:32:16
Thats ridiculous.  It happened mid way through the race so not as though there wasn't time for him to serve a penalty.   


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:34:35
He has been better than Lewis throughout the weekend and deserves his win.

-10 places at the next race would be fair.

Anyone here ever been to a GP?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:37:41
He has been better than Lewis throughout the weekend and deserves his win.

-10 places at the next race would be fair.

Anyone here ever been to a GP?

No, I had the chance once but it pissed down rain all weekend so sold my ticket to someone else.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 13:43:26
-10 places at the next race would be fair.

Anyone here ever been to a GP?

No, what would be fair is to apply the rules. If they state -10 grid places then fair enough. If they say -10 seconds then tough titties.

And yes, only the British GP so far though.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 15:12:17
Looks like Ferrari have got away with a 10,000 Euro fine.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70038


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 19:00:58
Apparently Hamilton had flu and neck problems and almost didn't race!

He did well to finish 2nd then.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 19:01:22
Anyone here ever been to a GP?

Yes, two. Both memorable.

Belgium '98. The huge pile up off the start, the Schumacher/Coulthard incident right in front of me, and Damon Hill taking Jordan's first victory

Indy '05. The one where all the Michelin runners drove into the pits before the start. I left after 20 minutes.......

Did Jordan ever win another race? Head tells me Frentzen won in a Jordan somewhere, but I can't recall exactly.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 19:05:06
Seem to remember Fisicella getting a win in strange circumstances for Jordan in the early 2000's?


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 19:08:43
Frentzen won in France and Italy in '99. That's my curious mind settled.

The Fisi win was Brazil '03, so in total Jordan won 4 races.

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Jordan won in 2003. The win came under extraordinary circumstances in the 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix which took place in torrential weather conditions. Following a massive accident on the start / finish straight, the race was red flagged and stopped. After some initial confusion, Giancarlo Fisichella was initially ruled to have finished a still remarkable second behind Kimi Räikkönen who took the top step on the podium. However, an FIA inquiry several days later led to Fisichella being officially declared the winner of his first F1 race. Fisichella was, therefore, unable to celebrate his first career victory on the top step of the podium, although he and Räikkönen swapped their drivers' trophies in a presentation at the following Grand Prix, while McLaren's Ron Dennis handed over the constructors' trophy to Eddie Jordan.

Just added the details on Fisi's rather odd victory. He was very 'appy IIRC....... :D



Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 24, 2008, 19:10:46
Super Aguri are my all time fav F1 team, but Jordan are definitely second. I used to like the shark nose-cone thing.


Title: Re: European Grand Prix
Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, August 25, 2008, 19:57:22

Anyone here ever been to a GP?

Yes