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woop first of the season! Im so excited, feel like a kid at christmas.


'MON THE TOWN

and whys there 35 guests online at quarter past 5 in the morning :D

2-2 draw.

34 spambots and you

1-1

Draw for me... 1-1 - Cox to score our goal.

Argh - I'm not ready for this season... Argh!

Fuck this drawing shit!!

We'll win. 3.1.

1-1 I reckon, but I'll be delighted if I'm wrong and we thump the scousers 4-0.

Yay!

2-1

3-2 Town
Cox, Easton, Paynter

or more likely 2-2

Cox and easton

Let the misery begin  :banging:

5-1 town, cox hat-trick and 2 for hasney.

1-0

Just about to leave the house to drive up to Swindon.

Hope my mindless optimism is still alive and kicking at 4.45 this afternoon.................

Least you can berate the yokels on their defeat when you get home or is that being over presumptuous?

Fuck it.
I'm up early enough, I'm off to Paddington.
What's the weather like your end?

its raining,going to be wet today apperently

I have my oblivion-esq ski jacket at the ready !

crap.
cheers anyway

It's not raining here at the moment at lease anyway. Come on Town. Bring it on!

Have you looked out of the window Rich?

it was really sunny earlier aswell. dont think its going to be heavy rain, but a constant drizzle

It's not really that much rain tbh. Just a bit of drizzle. It'll be fine.

I think a bit of moisture on the pitch will help us based on the style we seem to be adopting.  May also make marking McNamee a bit difficult without 6 inch studs on.

2-1 cox both!
And yes im sticking by what i said bout Casal starting even tho malpas said he wont!!

Nice bit of light drizzle.

If you can't play football in these conditions then you may as well hang up your boots.

whats the deal with the weather. I cant remember the last time it wasnt boiling hot on the first game of the season?

How about last year?

I think Im going to head to pub :-)

*wasn't boiling hot

Yer it were!

2004/05 away to Wrexham was hot, 2003/04 home to Sheffield Wednesday was hot too.

last year was mega warm! it was overcast season before last (hartlepool away)

Wendies in 2003/4 was f****** hot...about 35 degrees C...superb game nonetheless in spite of the result.

will the merlin have cricket on?

The day that Jimmy Davis died of course. But yes a bloody good game and somewhat indicative of the season to come. So near yet so far.

They will most probably have football on young David.

Birmingham City vs Sheffield United.

Fact of the day: The Merlin used to have a blue nosed landlord. Think he's gone now. I preferred it when it was called The Malt and Hops.

2-1 Tranmere. Shuker with one of them. Joyce with ours 85th minute.

deviating a bit i know but need advise fairly quickly (pretty please!), taking nippers for first time (well 5 year old went when babe in arms) so could do with parking fairly close but seem to remember hearing somewhere that they started clamping at transfer bridges last season. I'd be really grateful for advise, leaving in half hour.

oh and 3-2 town, Cox all 3

You can park in the road that runs parallel to Drakes Way.

Or Shrivenham Road, the Ocotal Way end.

 This is all the evidence you need for climate change being a reality, WTF is going on >:(

I'm going to the merlin dressed as a pirate. A hoody pirate. Without a hat because I couldn't find one. So basically an eye patch. Which makes it sort of a homage to Flight of the Conchords. Although it's accidental.

Ace eye patch. Spent a while playing the quiz machine wondering if that was a table of tef ers. And it was.

I hope that they don't cut the connection for international ISP's.

Well I had fun. Sam had a spare ticket, but he seemed less than enthusiastic about sitting next to me for the game, and then sneakily left whilst I was having a cigarette outside. Oh well. The lonely walk home was probably good for me.

I should wear the eye patch to more pub trips. Is it still 0-0?

why do you have an eye patch on?

it's 1-0, paynter scored in first 5 mins

Afternoon gentlemen! Quick summary would be appreciated. Just connected to Radio Swindon, I know its 1-0, but what has the game sounded like thus far?

NMH

To draw attention of myself so people would buy me pints. It worked.

Thanks go out to Si Pie, Chubbski, Legget, Yeovil and axs.

2-0 cox

Yay. Go team Swindon.

Decent!
NMH

Please stop writing NMH at the bottom of all your posts. It's not a letter, you name is quite clearly shown on the left.

fB

3-0 jp mcgovern

Oooh, this is looking hopeful.

Why are you not at the game today mr youth?

woke up too late :(

Oh, hark at her !

NMH

I'm bored enough to ban you. Although that would be a bit harsh. I'm pissed off because I'm 20p short of buying some fags.

fB

sounds like we are playing well today.  Nalis is involved a lot!

oh and Yeovil broke my eye patch. cunt.

I guess I could repeat my previous post. However, I won't as I haven't had a cigar for 3 weeks and am feeling the same pain!

NMH

I'm glad I didn't switch on, not knowing the score, just as Ed was saying something like "at 3-0 the game is dead..I can only remember one time since I've been commentating on Swindon when they came back from three down"

WTF??????

Oh yes. We're top of the league BTW.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  Ace we won!  Simon Cox was superb today as was Paynter.

We looked decent, Nalis and Timlin were superb. Paynter's goal came from some early pressure and good build up play, Cox's from a ball over the top that the keeper maybe ought to have come off his line for but was rooted to the spot and didn't stand a chance.

I think that puts us third in the table, not that it really means anything at this stage.

very good performance, paynter had a good game. Teams won't get much for free if we pressurise the ball like we did today. Their keeper was a bit dodgy wasn't he

Anyone else hear on the radio they were expecting 10/11 thousand for the QPR game Tuesday?  I know the tickets are cheap but sounds a bit excessive to me!

Really?! I thought we only had two stands open on tuesday, could be a bit of a squeeze.

    :no:

I think they may have exaggerated to be honest but you never know.  QPR will prob bring a few. And I thought there were only 2 stands open as well!

OS think we won 3-0 on the Malpas interview bit :doh:   :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

did Casal start?  ;D ;D ;D

great performance, to pick out a few, Smith, Timlin, McGovern, McNamee(1st Half) and the front 2 were superb

we did win 3-0 didn't we?

no 3-1

Just got home.

I thought we played very well and looked very comfortable. Very impressed with Nalis and Timlin, both played brilliant...Timlin got stuck in with every challenge and Nalis just plays the right ball every time.

Jack Smith looked good as well except for a very stray passes now and then, and both strikers also got stuck in.

First time I have seen Casal, and wasnt entirely convinced...but thats what i thought of Commingues as well so I except him to settle down.

Their keeper was awful - still cant understand why he didnt come out for cox's goal!

a very comfortable win.
mcgovern my mom.he used the ball well and some lovely passes down the flanks.
paynter was impressive upfront and coxy too.i like nalis from that performance.he just patrols the middle of the park and keeps it simple.timlin did ok, and despite some ropey passes broke up play on numerous occasions.macnamee was in and out of it but their right back will be glad to be on the bus home now for sure.
good handling from brez and smith did nothing wrong at right back.
aljofree was his usual self and had a great and calm clearance off the line.
decent crowd,nice to see the don on the pitch,nice speeches from fitton,better pa system.

now the minus points.ifil is terrible with a football at his feet(nothing new though).the new left back looked dodgy to say the least.(2 poorly directed defensive headers for starters,plus poor touch and wayward passes. but wont judge yet)the obese steward has brought her sister along this season(why?)
 the robinettes proved my point from weeks ago.and that helium breathing mong who shouts "come on swindon" and "come on you reds" in the arkells was a couple or rows in front of me.

Fat Robinette was the highlight of the game :D

Ifil seemed a bit scatty at times and Casal looked like he was just finding his feet.  To be fair hes hardly had any time with the squad and to come in and play 90 mins against a pretty physical side I think he did ok and will improve for sure.

I assure you it was correct at the time of posting Reggie i.e just before Trannies scored ???

Just whacked some money on us to go up and Cox top scorer after that.

Blind optimism? Hell yes.

I hope you went through Paddy Power for Cox - 50/1

Whoopee! What a great result. That is all.

Went down for Piss about 20 mins into game and she nearly flattened me as she was running to the ladies,she certainly is a big old unit.

Very good game enjoyed that. The RObinettes must go they are embarassing and cringeworthy.

I thought the robinettes were going to be older.

what a let down.

Cox was superb...and the rest not far behind,was a pleasure to watch....commitment and a desire to win,with some good footgall played as well....and we can only get better!

The more I think about it, what a bargain Cox is!!!!!!

 I thought you were just shit at maths  ;D

Me too, It was like a school play

oops, must have got too engrossed in international cricket captain 2008...

Fair excuse that, class game!

 Perv....it was probably like a school play, because they're school kids. Its good that they're being encouraged to do some harmless, enjoyable, physical activity.  Better than doing drugs and stuff...well done girls.

At last, Paynter had a good game! Well done Billy.

Nalis was my MOTM, but it was close between a few contenders.

Early days yet. There were encouraging moments without it being sustained periods. But we were comfortable.

I hope for the Trannies sake that isn't their #1 keeper.

Yeah, sorry about that. I had a better offer.

I think it was his 300th appearance for them I read somewhere but can't remember where!

Easy win, sat back too much once the game was won.

Thought we were comfortable and honestly thought we didnt even really get out of 3rd gear. Reckon if the game was tighter we still could have raised it a couple of notches.

Oh and if Watford have a left winger better than McNamee then Im Andy fucking King...

 Achterburg, has been there years...it showed.

Yep, it's his 10th year - I think we was their Football Masters goalkeeper this summer. Achterburg is their back-up though right?

yep, their first choice Danny Coyne was injured.

Pre-game pub was the highlight for me. Good times.

I wonder whether those lovely Tranmere fans will come and say hello, I hope so - I hate being used :D

Well done, didnt go the game but from the commentary on Radio Merseyside it sounds like you deserved it.
That McNamee(sp?) got more crosses in than Chris Shuker does all season, Antwi was awful. By the way did Bas Savage do the moonwalk? Anyway, congrats on your win.

PS Can we have McNamee on loan? ;)

nah he didnt moonwalk, pointless when ur getting battered really, you were worse than awful

No :) But good luck until our next bout on the Wirral.

It's good that today, only two players in our squad did not represent Swindon last season - I remain convinced that this is a good thing - yes, we need a little bit more depth but it's good that we haven't been dismantled as we are most seasons.

Squad stability is the way forward.

To be fair they missed a couple of early chances to equalise...one of the line,shows what depth in squad will mean this season,Tranny missing Greenacre,Edds,two of there best players,but we did play very well and well deserved the 3 points.

Defensively we looked reet ropey. a better team may have punished more today, at times they just waltzed through our midfield

Meh! cudda shudda wudda...didn't. We won. End of. Enjoy.

It was more a cautionary tale for the rest of the season than anything else

It's a perfectly fair point.

Sometimes though you just have to say, "We won 3-1, Hoorah, Woohoo!" And so on and so forth and forget everything else.

Did anyone catch the attendance? 

Just under 8k I believe

7,975

Maybe 400-500 of those were Tranmere?

I didn't think Tranmere were awful, we'll certainly play worse sides this year, although i'm not sure what it means that i thought Bas was their best player, either he's imrpoved or......

Ahem.....

We looked good. Not a completely convincing display, but as I said to my lad on the way out, if Tranmere had been better we'd have had to step up a gear (Which we easily could of) and we'd have probably not conceded. A bit of complacency crept in and it cost us a goal.

I hope MM starts getting some credit now, he's got them playing some really nice stuff.

Very enjoyable good football by us for the most part, which is what I mainly go out for. There were signs last season that win ugly was out, I hope so. Who is responsible? To be applauded.

Malpas is Manager therefore my appreciation goes to him.  The blokes had some serious stick, lets hope the positive performance continues. If the team don't continue to entertain, then we can just laugh at Byrne flapping his arms like a mad man on the touchline :D

Byrne had drunk 3 bottles of Powerade before halftime.

I wish I was making this up.

Been back for a little bit and brought myself to look at your message board.

1st thing Why all the round abouts???

2nd thing you were a good team and created some smart chances with good passing.

3rd We were god awful and our veteran goal keepr achterberg really showed his age and antwi showed his lass of class.  When we get our first choice goal keeper back and our top goal scorer greenacre we might stand a better chance.

Finally, you have to be the most miserable fans in the football league. 3-0 up and we didn't hear a peep off you, noda about one idiot in a cap shouting something anti scouse, I would hate to see what you lot are like when your losing. 

First game nerves, we are usually capable of a fuck up and letting teams back in so I think even at 3-0 up we all had our nails firmly in our mouths. I certain did not helped by the fact we sat back and dropped back into 1st gear.

However, lets be honest....you're not in much position to talk about fan support and noise levels.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Thank you for your kind words.

i dont mind having miserable fans as long as we keep smashing very average teams like tranmere

Lets wait for the rematch at Prenton Park and then if you beat us you can call us average.

Yes we were terrible today but it was a bad day at the office, I am sure you are use to them as well.

Its a long long season lads.

I just don't get the mentality of coming online to basically say "yes, yes we lost but here's what's wrong with you"

A couple of days ago we were being told that Tranmere were the dogs bollocks.

We have an oap - he didn't show his age. Godwin Antwi is a fucking Liverpool player - they must see something in him!

Your gripe is with your football club - not with our roundabouts and our failure to generate some noise.

and not one person on this forum has been saying "we are going up"...  ::)

Until Prenton  :bye:

rich why are u quoting me and having a rant :(

I was agreeing with you and ranting on in your honour... It was not directed at you  8)

oh good :)

Erm I think you will find that in my original post I clearly highlighted your superior passing and creative dynamic play which gave you the victory you deserved and would never dispute that.

I am simply pointing out where we went wrong.

And then I pointed out that you have a lot of round abouts which isnt exactly a lie???

Finally I pointed out how quiet your home fans were which I don't think you can argue with.

So I think Its a fair reflection on the day don't you???

How on earth is Antwi a Liverpool player and McNamee a Swindon player....it doesnt make any sense.

I think its also fair to say your fans were just as quiet.....

Again I agree but O wait no clearly I just hate football hence the 7 hour round trip I embarked on today :)

I think its fair to say we had our reasons for staying quiet, started off well went down hill rapidly soapy tit wank.

Carling, in your defence I thought Tranmere were a decent enough side and if you line up like that at home you'll win a lot of games.

Seemed like suicide away from home though.

Not as many as Milton Keynes. I don't see you mocking them.

One at a time kiddo

Let's dissect.

1. Nothing to do with football.

2. A teeny tiny bit of match analysis complimenting us, many thanks.

3. Excuse, excuse, excuse.

Finally: Dig towards our fans. Which is true - well done.

:D

You sir, have a career at the Swindon Evening Advertiser waiting for you.

Lets re-evaluate

1. Sorry have you seen this message board.

2. Your welcome

3. fact fact fact but still the better team on the day won.

4. Again your welcome :)

You lacked a clinical edge upfront tbh. I dont think you played that badly. The difference was we took our chances when they came. Thought both teams were a little dodgy at the back but good going forward. Think you'll do OK this season tbh.

Fair enough Carling, kudos to you for making the journey down. Have fun at Grimsby in midweek.

Surprised your not on your own site telling each other how poor your own side were, instead of trying to make a poor attempt of an argument on this one.

Taxi

Carling, just fuck off, best all round really, bye xx

I am not a complete masochist!!!

AAAAY LID CALM DOWN :)

I didn't think so.

Bristol Rovers had a rather large (for them) attendance of 8,285 over 300 more than us. Pre-Season optimism or did Carlisle bring a few?

The good:
Brez's handling on a second half shot. Didn;t have much to do but saved well when had to

Ifil:class

Timlin & Nalis, both played well, solid pairing

JPM: Took foot off gas at 3-0, but was superb

McNamee: not his best performance but still raped their right back. Some lovely touches and crossing got better as game went on

Cox: MOM. I've put a tenner on him to be top scorer E/W. He's quite good!

Paynter: was gutte not to see corr start, but paynter ran his socks off and had a blinder.

Fitton: nice speach, s/t offer a nice touch, and hopefully someone will find those two balloons with season tickets in them!

Performance: the team couldnlt have done any more to persuade any doubters about buying a S/T.

Pitch: looked amazing

Bad:
Full backs: Smith made some good tackles but IMO gave their winger a bit too much space. As my dad said, if he comes up against a McNamee he'll get skinned. Casel did ok for first game, looked a bit lost at times but showed potential

Aljofree: did ok, but STOP HOOFING IT!

Weather: WTF?

Atmosphere: bit flat considering we played so well?

My seat: absolute twat sat behind me four rows back, couldn;t have been any more negative. Christ knows what he would have done if we'd been losing. Have to put up with him for another 22 games!!!!

Byrne: quite lairy? Alays shouting at players like kingy, how about a bit of encouragement?

Rockin Robin: where was he?

Robinettes: good effort, but a bit more practie required!

69: who was the old bloke warming up with the team? didn;t he buy the opportunity to be on the bench last year? Just looks embarassing IMO.

Club shop: missed a trick not opening up today

Oh yeah, and I thought Tranmere were dreadful at the back... on another day we might have conceded in the first half, but they were cack!

I'm emailing the Club on Monday regarding the total fuck up in seat numbering in our row, it goes from 190 straight to 201.  :doh:

I agree.  Its cringeworthy

Were they selling seats 191-200 then?

What was their 'keeper doing for our second goal?! The through ball had his name written all over it, but he just retreated back to his line instead of dealing with it.

I though Nalis was very good. Rarely gave the ball away, and excellent at moving the ball down the pitch. When teams start to double up on Macnamee then hopefully Lilian will be able to exploit the gaps.

great result!!!

good ol Magic Malpas!

MAURICE MALPAS SEXY FOOTBALL!

Fucking bandwagon jumpers.

I still have a feeling that we're not quite there. While I think all round we did good defensive work, there were times that Tranmere passed it through us too easily and we were caught out. Luckily we were saved either by good defending from Ifil, or terrible finishing on Tranmere's behalf. McGovern left Jack Smith exposed far too often and it was down that side that Tranmere had most of what was very little joy going forward. Casal was exposed once or twice but overall he did well, need to give him time to settle.

Going forward, until the game was won at 3-0, I thought we were fantastic. Certainly the best attacking football since the playoff season five years ago! I think we'll tear teams to bits at the County Ground, and now Malpas' style is setting in I'm sure we're in for a lot of goals too. Tranmere were not a bad side, they passed it around neatly but they really lacked that killer touch. Whether that was our good defending or them I'm not quite sure, but once we took the foot off the gas, they had a little spell where they attacked more.

We really need to continue on this performance, and get a win at Cheltenham next week. If we are serious about challenging for the playoff we need to be beating teams like them, and we also need to make up for last seasons terrible away form. Pleased though, Nalis, Timlin, McNamee, Cox and Paynter were all superb and it's a great start to what will hopefully be a successful season.

To be fair I think the Tranmere fan is spot on. Fans were very unnapreiciative. Hardly up for it at all. Sad really, but we are going the same way as Bristol City, fans just cant get up for games at home.

Team very very nice. Paynter gave us everything you could have asked for. Great win, just need to show we are the real deal now by winning a few games away.

On the subject of Rocking Robin, love him or hate him, I understand from my pal who works at the club that hes on holiday at the moment but will be back for the next game.

Its great to see alot of positives come out of the yesterdays game, looks like the club have done alot of work on and off the field so thats something to build on.

As for the PA system, I was down at the club mid week and the old PA is being replaced with new (they had these cranes and stuff in the arkells stand installing new speakers), but the stadium bloke was saying that due to the weather they hadnt got round to replacing ones on the town end and DR stand. So I guess in time the rest will be done - damn good call if they are to do interviews with footballing legends, and stuff.!

Good idea to hook up with BBC as well on the pitch.

shame they still ran out of hot pies.-who ate all of them?!
and club shop shut? are they still refurbishing it?

 Spencer with the  emphasis on ST's it was always likely that the quieter fan would be attracted...also some loss of TEnders would occur. I thought the TE would be worse than it was...I very nearly went for an early season walk, when an idiot steward was trying to get some random fella to sit down....steward was pointing out, he was going to make everybody sit down.  So I explained I wouldn't be....at which point Paynter scored and I missed the goal.....I then pointed out he'd ruined my afternoon and he fucked off  :)

Negatives:

Thought Tranmere made some good runs and had our defence stumped at times - quite often you'd see one of our defenders marking out two men and another two of ours marking nobody. Smith got caught out far too much, maybe because McGovern drifted in far too much. My latter point also concludes this.

Still, big Bas Savage was so shit it didn't matter.

Midfield looked overran at times, but as the game went on we started to look a lot more comfortable.

Positives:

Front two were brilliant. Don't need to say much more here, except Paynter was miles better than Peaks when came on.

Midfield finally settled down and played the football we're capable of. Thought Nalis played some good passes. McGovern looked really good when he finally decided to play on the wing. Needs to be more disciplined in doing that more often and he could surprise me and have an excellent season, as he played really well in the second half.

Overall we'll do ok this season based on that performance. We will definitely have to step it up to be in with a shout of play-offs, but as others pointed out, there wasn't a need to do that in this game.

Only a Swindon fan could write 82 words under negative and 79 under positive after a 3-1 win.

I don't think that the 40 after "Overall" go either way. Sort of like neutral words.

Only Ben would spend time counting out the words in a post and get it wrong.

I coppied and pasted it into a word counter thing. Maybe we are counting different words?

= 82


= 79


Don't question my counting you silly jew midget.

83 and 80 according to MS Word, which is just as well, because I completely made up that you were wrong in the first place. Hurrah.

Whats with the Tranny fans mocking ours....didnt even know they were here....think we will make abit more noise than them at there place,as for Rovers having a bigger crowd than us its fair to pont out that Bristol is the 6th biggest City in Britain and City were away.....there bound to get bigger crowds than us......nearly 8000 is a great turnout,specialy with QPR midweek and Cheltenham away,alot of fans have to choose matches for financial reasons.

Its a bloody good turnout considering its middle of summer - always a few less with ppl on holiday etc.

 What is this ppl of which you speak? Some firm like M.A.N....BMW...or DFS ?

Why on earth would you want Corr in over Paynter?

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 :D :D :D :gathering:

Love it!

   Is that bit of material covering up a tampon in fB's ear?

What the fuck??

I would suggest it's because, when fit, Corr is clearly a better footballer than Paynter.

Wait a sec, are you  :fishing: ? If so, then my hangover is to blame and congratulations.

im so pissed of with this 'if corr was fit' bollocks, if he was fit he wouldnt have ended up at swindon, he would still be at leeds/sheff wed. same with Kanyuka good enough for the championship but cos he always injured he ends up in league 1

But what if he was fit?

is he fit yet?

Clearly? When has Corr proved to be a better football than Paynter?

Barry Corr has probably not even played 10 games in a row for us. He hasnt played enough to prove much to us.

Plus, Corr isnt fit. He has been injured pretty much ever since we signed him. He played two(?) 30 minute spells of pre-season football so it clearly no where near match fit, where as Paynter is.

So I dont understand why you'd be gutted to see a fit, expirenced, better player start instead of an un-fit, injury prone players who hasnt played a full game in months?!

Then of course there is the fact Paynter and Cox were our best partnership last season and have played most of pre-season together.

At no point did i say anything like that, I was merely pointing out that a fit Barry Corr is a better footballer than a fit Billy Paynter. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind, including Billy Paynter, not agreeing with that.

In the instance, such as yesterday when Paynter is fit, and Corr is not, then i would rather Paynter start.

I can't be bothered to look this up, but who has the better goals per game?

Has Paynter ever played 10 games in a row for us?

I'm not a great Paynter fan, but yesterday he tried his socks off, he always does, he scored a great goal, but he is not a natural goalscorer, never has been, Corr on the other hand is.

At the end of the day a fit Corr instead of Paynter (definitely), but will he ever he fit to play 10 in a row, doubt it.

So going round in circles I suppose, whats the best option for Swindon at the present time, then it has to be Paynter, does that make sense.

The Corr if fit thing has been touted for ages. Billy looked 100 times better than he did last season. Committed, confident, jumped for the ball and got stuck in. Paynter was shit hot yesterday and was my MOTM,.

Dell u say Corr is a natural goalscorer???
is this the same Barry Corr who never scored for Leeds, played nearly 20 games for sheff wed and never scored, and never scored in a league game on loan at bristol city.
Before signing for us Barry Corr had scored 1 goal in a cup game for Bristol City, not a natural goalscorer!!

How many did he score for Swindon in limited appearances.
And what is Paynters goals per games ratio, not as good as Corrs I think you will find.

im not saying Paynter have a great record, im simply pointing out Corr isnt a natural goalscorer which u claim he is

Im in my right mind and im saying it.

I wish people would stop wanking over corr. Paynter and Cox had a fantastic game and infact I would put Joyce ahead of Corr anyway. Corr will no doubt be gone at the end of this season anyway...

I said it on many occasions, Paynter does everything right, but doesn't find the net enough, good old fashioned centre forward from lower divisions.
Corr no side has probably ever seen the best of the lad, and probably never will because of his back injuries.

Why will Corr be gone?

Barry Corr 57 games and 11 goals. 1 in every 5.18181818

Billy Paynter 227 games and 46 goals. 1 in every 4.93478261

I think his contract is up at the end of the season, if his injuries keep occurring are we going to sign him to play 10 games and score 4 goals when we can get a certain Sam Parkin from Luton when they get relegated to the conference?

you have to judge players from this season not last or previous seasons.
Paynter has got 1 in 1, lets see how he does over the next 10, i think he will have 5/6

bearing in mind that not all of those games did Paynter play up front, ive seen many occasions for Southend when Billy played out wide on the right

Bearing in mind about half of those games Barry Corr went off injured

Great news that we've got options up front, could careless who gets the support role as long as they perform, which they will have to otherwise they'll be sitting on the bench.

or more likely in corrs case the treatment table

Very true JPC.

That also doesnt take into account sub appearences or what division those appearences were made in. Just gone purely for games played and goals scored. Not even im that sad to break it down any further.

What I will say though is I think Billy Paynter is the better player and has the better track record. He has a (slightly) better goals to game ratio than Corr (although the same if rounded up/down) but Paynter has made over 4 times the amount of appearences as Barry Corr and has kept his 1 in 5 average going over a longer period of time.

Paynter turned 24 in July and Corr turned 23 in April so its not like Paynter is alot older than Corr has just played more.

Corr could be the better of the two, however because he hasnt played many games he could have just had a purple patch. I dont think hes played enough games to prove it either way.

It all comes down to opinion.
Corr for me will score goals a plenty if fit, which is very unlikely.
Paynter is a workhorse will never be prolific, but there again Mark Hughes wasn't either for Man U.

It is just a personal preference, for me, a fit Corr before Paynter any day.

We all see things differently.

I agree with that totally on all points.

with Corr its always big IFs!!
IF i was alot better than i really am at football id score loads for swindon

If only!!!
Your second sentence makes no sense at all.

What would make it easier is if they were on a level playing field, same division, same club...

Wait a second... eureka! they are!

What do the stats say for goals per game in a Swindon shirt DV?

Opinion is great, i would love it if Paynter proved me wrong.

Paynter played ace yesterday, if anyone thinks Corr should have been playing instead of him they're a fucking knobhead.

If Paynter's performances slacken you will have a point then and only then.

that still wouldnt be a fair reflection, cos Corr scored goals in league 2 for us where as paynter joined in league 1

Its not just a hunch that Corr will come good this season. Hes a lot bigger, hes worked really hard in pre season.

In my opinion he is a top footballer. Not just a goal scorer. Just think his luck will change this year.

I dont know what your views on Roberts' long term absenses have been? But im not even excited about Roberts comming back. Hes one of the most unfocused players Ive ever seen and its time for him to go. Barry Corr is a top notch footballer and is well worth the wait. Hes not done anything to contribute to his own downfall, hes just been unlucky. The shoulder injury was a freak one.

Paynter was brilliant yesterday, and no ones saying Corr should waltz back in and take his place. But Paynter isnt the most consistent player around. Im sure there will come a time where we need a shake up.

Corr wasn't match fit so no.
Paynter played well, but nothing to have an orgasm about mate. :D

Barry Corr last season - 9 starts 11 sub appearences. 5 goals

Billy Paynter last season  - 26 starts 14 sub appearences. 10 goals

So Barry Corr made 20 appearences and got 5 goals. 1 in 4 spot on
Billy Paynter made 40 appearences and got 10 goals. 1 in 4 spot on

That is just Swindon games/goals last season. League & Cup. Doesnt include Corrs stint in League Two or Paynters goal this season...

Spencer it is partly his own fault, he demands to play when he isnt ready to play, suppose thats down to Malpas aswell for giving in

In true Town End fashion *appearances :D

Paynter played as well as Cox did, just obviously couldn't play the whole game.

As for Corr, I look forward to him coming back properly match fit, I think he does have more talent than Paynter but I'd prefer Malpas to play people of the merits of their form and at the moment there would be little point in dropping Paynter on that basis.

Oh and I agree with SW about Roberts.

Bollocks. Anyone can play well for one game, i think Eric Sabin managed it once or twice too. I based my point on all the other games he's played for us, not just the one.

I don't think anyone on here is saying Corr should have played instead of Paynter yesterday - so your knobhead comment seems pointlessly aggressive - been on the afternoon Stellas Si?

And no, Paynter should continue to start if he continues to play like he did yesterday. When he returns to the Paynter of last season, it's time for him to move over. And at that point I hope Corr stays fit enough to not give him another opportunity.

The whole debate started because od Juddies post where he said something along the lines of 'Im gutted Corr didnt start' so clearly someone thought he should have started ahead of Paynter.

Also, who is to say the Billy Paynter of last season is the 'real' Billy Paynter and the one yesterday isnt? Paynter played in fits and spells last season. He had good games he had bad games and still came out of the season with a 1 in 4 scoring records. Which as pointed out was identical to Barry Corr.

All down to personal opinions as many have stated earlier.
Good thing is, we have options, we are not reliant on just one player being fit all the time for us to score goals this season.

I can't wait until i'm bored enough to work out goals per playing minute.  ::) That'll be when i'm back at work then...

I prefer Guinness.

I'll buy you one if Paynter outscores Corr this season

(He better get/stay fit now)

We should resign Graz. he was ace.

We only one because of the eyepatch. True story.

It was a mighty eyepatch.

And it must be worn until we lose. And then it must be retired, never to be worn again. Set alight and sailed out to the middle of Coate Water.

to be fair if the corr-cox partnership doesnt hit off we should play paynter regardless

Roughly...

Paynter 2341 minutes (26.01 games) 10 goals. A goal every 234.1 minutes

Corr 733 minutes (8.1 games) 5 goals. A goal every 146.6 minutes

Although I think if you break it down this much it becomes pointless because it doesnt factor in other teams fitness levels, whether or not we are pushing for a winner/holding onto a lead whether we are home or away and whether we were playing with confidence or not....or how many chances we created!

Death by analysis.

Normally I dig this shit.

corr is miles better than paynter full stop

 :doh:

at the moment i dont give a shit who is better.paynter busted a gut yesterday,scored one and set up another.job done!
i'm pleased for him

You've hit the nalis on the head there arriba.

Wot arriba said.

Looks like we've opened a can of worms!

All I said, is that because I prefer Corr as a player, I was gutted he didn't start. This is my own personal opinion, certainly not based on fact (!), but I've often thought Paynter can drift out of games.

In saying that, when Paynter does play well, like he did yesterday, then he's a key figure. He wins headers, he holds the ball up and brings others into play (in a style not too dissimilar to SSP) and his energy lifts others, and the crowd.

But if he plays like that every week I'll happily see him line up alongside Cox! The key thing is that while we all have our opinions on who should be the front two, the fact we have two very good players vying for one spot is a better position we've been in for years.

Likewise, at the beginning of last season we had either peacock and Pook/ easton and pook/ pook and peacock in the centre of midfield. The fact that none of the above started yesterday proves beyond doubt that all those saying our squad is no stronger than last season is talking nonsense.

Ditto Kanyuka in the centre of defence...

Whether your prefer Corr or Paynter, the facts are these: 1. Paynter was awesome Saturday, 2. When/if Paynter hits a rough patch we have an excellent striker waiting in the wings in Barry Corr.

And that for me makes me feel very optimistic about the season ahead.

And I'm still not happy with the prospect of sitting in front of the most miserable b*stard for the next nine months. Even at 3-0: "if we're not careful we're going to f^ck this up". I thought we were already own listening to him! Honestly, cheer up son.

Only thing about the don rogers stand is that you can't afford to drink too late before kick off. I've always fnished my pint at about 2.57 then headed into my seat in the arkells, but you need about 10/15 mins to get over to the Don Rogers, through the queue and into your seat.

Well happy with my new seat though, reminds me of the 95/96 season. Row H in the DR, the front row of the 'second tier'.

http://www.football.virginmedia.com/page/leagueonevideo/0,,12555~1362815,00.html

Though we played pretty well. Going forward teh midfield and attack were vey good at times, we passed teh ball well.

Defensively I think we made a few errors at times, and Tranmere's 4-3-3 did cause some confusion.

That said i think Malpas won the tactical battle. People conplaining in the other thread about JP tucking in at times, I think he was told to, so that we went 3 v 3 in central midfield. macca hugged the touchline virtually all game, and got so many 1 on 1's with their right back. He didnt even have one of his better games, but beat his man and put a cross in every time.

Generally think that was a good win, Tranmere didnt look like a team that would struggle to me.

Build up for the first goal is absolute class!

agree about the 1st goal. We've not seen anything like that for a while have we?

Also if JP and macca put that much quality into the box regually then we will score goals almost by default

anyone else have problems veiwing the virgin match highlights?? just doesnt seem to load or play for me.

few things to note after watching the vid.

quality build up for the first, great ball and a lovely header, he saw it late as the lad jumped right infront of him but he still found the corner.
lovely flick-on for cox's, absolute text-book stuff, and a cracking finish to boot.
stupid celebration.

most worringly, bas savaga actually scored against us. panic stations.

few things to note, i still cant watch the vid.

Load the page and wait patiently for at least 5 mins. It needs to install some copy protection thingy the first time.

If that doesn't work download the latest Flash Player and the latest Shockwave player and reboot and try again.