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Title: The Dark Knight
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:12:01
Not a huge fan of Batman films but saw this tonight and thought it was quality. Heath Ledger (RIP) was quality as the joker. Somewhat weird as it take place seemingly before all the other Batman films but is current???


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: crouchy on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:13:43
bit like star wars then, thought you were skint?


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:14:16
They did like a reset starting with the one before. Errr... Batman Begins. I think.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:16:18
bit like star wars then, thought you were skint?
I got some dosh earlier as said and it was cheap night £4.40. 


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: crouchy on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:18:50
That £4.40 could be used to go towards the train to cheltenham


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:25:07
That £4.40 could be used to go towards the train to cheltenham

 Gazzza not going to Cheltnum...serious.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:28:44
Gazzza not going to Cheltnum...serious.

The Dark Day?


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:29:35
Cheltenham is so last year.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:31:12
The Dark Day?

 Darkie Day....in Padstow, where Strood gets chased around the village, and they all end up in Rick Stein's restaurant.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 17:36:47
it was ok


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 18:30:54
They did like a reset starting with the one before. Errr... Batman Begins. I think.

Exactly, The Dark Knight is the sequel to Batman Begins, which in know way followed the previous cartoon style format. Batman Begins was seriously good and once i get my Internet running will watch it online.

Anyone else notice how few people have even heard of Batman Begins?


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 18:33:55
Gazzza was the first for me.

Edit: Although I have some mates who were moaning about the shape of the batmobile before Begins came out. So I suppose they know about such geeky things.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 18:45:03
Is robin not in it? Im confused


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 18:47:54
Exactly, The Dark Knight is the sequel to Batman Begins, which in know way followed the previous cartoon style format. Batman Begins was seriously good and once i get my Internet running will watch it online.

Anyone else notice how few people have even heard of Batman Begins?

As Ben says - Gazzza's the first I've come across...

Batman Begins was a very good film, never tire of watching it.  Really enjoyed Dark Night too but then I'm a missive sucker for this type of film.  Big thumbs up from me.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:00:05
Really? Perhaps it just seems that way to me then. My old dear hadn't heard of the Batman Begins, but loved the previous ones... And a few mates hadn't either, yet were all set for the new one. I set them all straight though and will be lending them Batman Begins.

Like you KT, i've watched it loads, which kind of highlights an error in my previous post. I meant i will watch the Dark Knight online when my internet starts working again. (I've had no internet for nearly 2 weeks or something - I'm having to use other peoples.)


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:04:08
Batman Begins has been selling very well at work, which suggests that people are playing catch-up.

As cruel and sad as it sounds Warner Brothers must have been secretly high fiving eachother after Heath Ledger popped the wrong dosage because, although a cool franchise, it must have made them millions of dollars more in profits.

The Dark Knight is very good - but it's not as amaaaaazing as many tried to make me believe.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:16:01
It was better than Batman Begins I thought. Maybe because I saw it at the cinema though.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:19:31
It was better than Batman Begins I thought. Maybe because I saw it at the cinema though.

Yes I think it was better than Batman Begins. BB had to re-tell the story though. Heath Ledger aside, The Joker character is pretty cool and hard to beat.

Is the Riddler next? I've heard Johnny Depp is linked but that's just movie geek rumour sources I guess.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:21:39
Not sure they've confirmed another film yet. Sure it's only a matter of time though.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:25:23
Not sure they've confirmed another film yet. Sure it's only a matter of time though.

They'll have little choice - tempting Christopher Nolan (and his brother) back will be the tricky thing though.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:30:19
They have to make more - was wondering how they might bring the Penguin into a film - he's the most cartoon of them all really and doesn't really fit into the dark, serious Batman format.  We'll see I guess.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:35:14
Wikipedia seems well referenced.

Quote from: Wikipedia
Future

Nolan is not committed to another sequel, explaining that he does not normally line up projects after completing a film. Gary Oldman is confident Nolan will return,[25] and Bale said he would return if Nolan did.[26] Oldman hinted in the third film Gordon would have to hunt down Batman.[27] He has also mentioned that the villain of the upcoming film may be The Riddler. [28] Nolan explained that as long as he is directing, he is not including Robin in the franchise because Bale is portraying a "young Batman", which meant "Robin's not for a few films". Nolan jokingly listed Frankie Muniz as a potential choice, if the studio forced him to cast.[29] Bale joked "I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work" if Robin is introduced.[30]

In addition, Nolan considered the Penguin difficult to portray on film, explaining, "There are certain characters that are easier to mesh with the more real take on Batman we're doing. The Penguin would be tricky." [31] Sarah Michelle Gellar and Kate Beckinsale have shown interest in playing Catwoman,[32][33] while David Tennant has expressed interest in playing the Riddler.[34] Prior to the release of The Dark Knight in 2008, David Goyer ruled out using the Penguin or Catwoman as a villain in a future film, prefering to use antagonists from the comic that had not yet been portrayed on the big screen. [35] On July 23, 2008, Aaron Eckhart says he would return for a sequel of The Dark Knight if asked.[36]

I haven't seen Dark Knight yet, not sure I'll bother at the cinema.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:35:53
The Penguin look from the Tim Burton film was okay I thought - obviously incorporating it to the new franchise is tricky but they'd do it.

If ever a man was born to the play the Penguin it was DeVito!

[url width=179 height=184]http://www.geocities.com/~talotta/Batman/returns4.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: michael on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 19:43:02
Batman Begins...

This re-set is based upon the "Batman: Year 1" graphic novel of course, which was written by the same man who gave us "Sin City".

"Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" is a cracking read too, set when Bruce Wayne is in his 50's and comes out of crime-fighting-retirement after 10 years away.

The "Watchmen" movie is out soon too I think, but I can't get my head round how that is possibly film-able.

Haven't seen "The Dark Knight" yet though so don't spoil the ending for me.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:03:07
Wasn't the original Penguin quite normal? That's how I remember on tv anyway.



Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:08:36
Wasn't the original Penguin quite normal? That's how I remember on tv anyway.



Yeah in comparison to the Burton version.

[url width=322 height=450]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1431/958098131_1d2736073f.jpg?v=0[/url]

That bloomin' umbrella.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: strooood on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:11:04
I havent ever seen a batman film.

this seems like the sort of shit i'm going to love, my boss is borrowing me batman begins and ill go see dark knight next week some point.

When i saw i am legend at the imax, they showed a 5 minute preview of the dark knight, which consisted of a bank robbery and muchos shooting, cant wait to see it.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:13:50
How many Batman films are there now?

Batman
Batman Begins
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
The Dark Knight

Have I missed any?

What order should i watch them in to get the jist of the story?


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:14:25
Batman: The Movie (1966) and a fair few animated ones I would have thought.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:16:29
Batman Returns in 1992.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:26:07
How many Batman films are there now?

Batman
Batman Begins
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
The Dark Knight

Have I missed any?

What order should i watch them in to get the jist of the story?


In modern(ish) times there's been the two Tim Burton ones:
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)

Which are pretty good, well from memory. It's been a long time.


Then following on there's...
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)

Which from memory are both pretty fucking terrible.

Then they axed it.

Now they've sort of "rebooted" with the two new Christopher Nolan efforts:
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)

Which are pretty ace (well supposed to be in The Dark Knights case anyway, as I haven't seen it).

Order watching; I wouldn't worry too much. It might be worth seeing Batman Begins before The Dark Knight, although I guess they're pretty stand alone. Wouldn't bother with the earlier ones at all, although the Burton efforts might be worth it if you're bored one evening, but they have no relation to the new films.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:29:43
i thought all the hype about ledger might just be because he's dead, but he really was that good


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 21:33:42
I've heard that there's lots of hype about his performance because he's dead.

Although actually I've heard both. I guess the best way to judge would be to leave the film for 3-4 years and then watch it without the hype.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 22:11:29
I thought Ledger was amazing as the joker, completely putting aside the fact he's dead. It was sort of a Jack Sparrow character in terms of strangeness, and it worked really well


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 23:18:13
Just seen it and Ledger was indeed the star of the movie! loved every second! i dont use the word epic often but this film certainly deserves this title!


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:59:42
batman is ace apart from his gruff voice

well worth the queing we had to do

Just makes you realise what a waste of talent Heath Ledgers death was - god damn those Olsen twins!!  >:(


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, August 7, 2008, 15:02:17
I love the Olsen Twins. Especially the one with a bit of meat on her. Actually, just the one with a bit of meat on her.


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, August 7, 2008, 15:06:49
they killed Heath with there evilness (and there drugs!!) (alledgedly)


Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, August 7, 2008, 15:08:08
They can try and kill me with their sexy drugs if they want.