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Title: Torrent clients
Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:39:17
'sup folks... i've finally got a new laptop and broadband in my new pad, but it's been ages since i did any of this torrent stuff, and i fancy stealing me some films and music. What i want to know from the TEF nerdlingers out there, is what is the best torrent client to acquire, and the best places to search for said torrents...

Ta muchly!


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:50:41
utorrent is the neatest smally option. It be what I use.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:00:25
Use utorrent also set your port above 45000 anything below is monitored by certain organizations.

As for site's mininova is the largest public one if you go private you must seed back what you take' example
you DL 700mb you give back 700mb or the site will ban you.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:03:47
Use utorrent also set your port above 45000 anything below is monitored by certain organizations.

I'm going to call myth on that one.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:24:08
Call it what you want but all top sites use ports above that or even above 49000' otherwise they wont let you connect.I use 65535

Public sites they will let you tho.



Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:25:39
I just can't see why it would make a difference that's all. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:36:04
Azureus (or however it's spelt) has always served me quite well. But I can't really say I've played the torrenting field that much


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:41:38
utorrent is a very lightweight program and the best option out there.

and i double-call myth


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:41:59
Call it what you want but all top sites use ports above that or even above 49000' otherwise they wont let you connect.I use 65535

Public sites they will let you tho.



That's bollocks.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:49:36
ok then have it your way i tried to help.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: LucienSanchez on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:58:33
Thanks guys!


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 13:10:54
Taken from SCT which is a topsite

In order to use use our tracker you must configure your client to use any port range that does not contain those ports (a range within the region 49152 through 65535 is preferable, cf. IANA). Notice that some clients, like Azureus 2.0.7.0 or higher, use a single port for all torrents, while most others use one port per open torrent. The size of the range you choose should take this into account (typically less than 10 ports wide. There is no benefit whatsoever in choosing a wide range, and there are possible security implications).

These ports are used for connections between peers, not client to tracker. Therefore this change will not interfere with your ability to use other trackers (in fact it should increase your speed with torrents from any tracker, not just ours). Your client will also still be able to connect to peers that are using the standard ports. If your client does not allow custom ports to be used, you will have to switch to one that does.

Do not ask us, or in the forums, which ports you should choose. The more random the choice is the harder it will be for ISPs to catch on to us and start limiting speeds on the ports we use. If we simply define another range ISPs will start throttling that range also.

Finally, remember to forward the chosen ports in your router and/or open them in your firewall, should you have them. See the Why is my port listed as "---"  section and links therein for more information on this.




Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 13:19:23
I know certain ISPs throttle common ports so it is worthwhile changing to a more unusual one just to get faster download speeds.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 13:19:58
I still say they are wrong. If ISP's really throttled traffic by port number, it would make sense to use a low port commonly used by something that you don't. For example whatever port Battle.net uses if you don't play World of Warcraft or something.

ISPs which do this are more likely to pick up on the bittorrent packet headers or something. I would have thought anyway.

Also they're not talking about people getting caught and sued my movie studios or whoever, they're talking about ISP's recognising traffic which uses lots of bandwidth and limiting it's use. The copyright enforcement monkeys have much easier ways of detecting you. Click on an active torrent in utorrent and then click peers. Hello!.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 13:49:27
That's the thing tho the minute they do that they are breaking the law by connecting to a torrent,this is where the loophole is if the MPAA or RIAA tried to convict you on that basis.

they are not allowed to connect to a torrent,which is why they get people like mediadefender to do their dirty work for them.

This is also why a program called peerguardian2 is used it stops any organization connecting to you.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 14:57:10
This is also why a program called peerguardian2 is used it stops any organization connecting to you.

so does a firewall


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: yeo on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 15:07:47
is the Sanchez bloke Bennet?


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 16:23:39
blackcurrant

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHERRR!


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 17:06:49
That's the thing tho the minute they do that they are breaking the law by connecting to a torrent,this is where the loophole is if the MPAA or RIAA tried to convict you on that basis.

they are not allowed to connect to a torrent,which is why they get people like mediadefender to do their dirty work for them.

This is also why a program called peerguardian2 is used it stops any organization connecting to you.

Torrents or torrent clients are not actually illegal though (I think). Sure, distribution of counterfeit movies/games or whatever is illegal but not the torrent sites themselves. It is perfectly legal to buy limewire, for example, which maybe not a torrent but still p2p and so the same principal applies.

Their is a fine line between sharing and distribution, Napster got busted on 'distribution' I think. something like that anyway.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 18:18:19
Torrents or torrent clients are not actually illegal though (I think). Sure, distribution of counterfeit movies/games or whatever is illegal but not the torrent sites themselves. It is perfectly legal to buy limewire, for example, which maybe not a torrent but still p2p and so the same principal applies.

Their is a fine line between sharing and distribution, Napster got busted on 'distribution' I think. something like that anyway.

Yes Bangkok there is a very fine line i was once something to do with those activities you mention.Their main aim is to go after the big boys which are the scene release groups and the topsites where they can make a big impact in the media world.The chances of them going after your everyday downloader are minimal, but it has happened where Filesharer's have been prosecuted.

The thing is if they cant get the top guy's which they very rarely do because most of the time the files are are held on servers in the netherlands,canada or places that are not under any jurisdiction of filesharing.Although most have pulled out of netherlands due to the bust of OINK which made big news as this was the biggest music site of all.

With just the downloaders if you are caught they inform your ISP, your ISP will then send you an email or letter telling you to stop or they will cut your internet.

hxxp://torrentfreak.com/category/legal-issues/page/3/

they want to bring this in by next year so every ISP abides by it.

Rapidshare is the best way these days or newsgroups
 


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 21:58:52
home taping is killing music.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: yeo on Sunday, July 20, 2008, 21:59:55
Ive never downmloaded a torrent thingy I dont think,I'm to scared.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 21, 2008, 09:47:31
home taping is killing music.


I read that quickly and thought you said tapping! I was going to say that is a bit extreme tapping your phone to see what films you are downloading!  :doh:


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:09:41
home taping is killing music.


Nah, music's dying of natural causes.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:11:05
I need some new music to listen to.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:13:50
I need some new music to listen to.

Airbourne - Running Free (if you like AC/DC that is...otherwise you'll hate it).

To be honest all my recomendations with have lots of loud guitar...so err, that's either gonna be good for you or not...


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:15:43
ryan adams!


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:16:48
I've been listening to the beta band a bit recently. Anybody know if The Aliens are any good?


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:16:51
ryan adams!

Of course, and Whiskeytown.  Faithless Street is a simply wonderful album.

Edit:  No idea about the Aliens, fB.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:57:10
whiskeytown is good but you need to like country...ryan adams is just awesome.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 16:06:13
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/fastdownload.jpg[/url]

So how do I get such fast speeds from one connection? Anybody?


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 17:30:16
Just depends what their bandwidth capability is. If they've got say 24 meg broadband then they can probably upload at 5 - 6 meg. You find most people are right tight cunts though and limit their uploads to 10 kb/s because they think it affects their download speed (muppets).

My ISP throttles p2p and torrents anyway so mine never really get above 150 kb/s.


Title: Re: Torrent clients
Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 18:39:56
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/fastdownload.jpg[/url]

So how do I get such fast speeds from one connection? Anybody?

Get yourself in a private site where nobody hardly caps there upload...im not sure if these are open sign ups still..also you need to use a propper email addy. dont use hotmail or msn

http://www.araditracker.com/