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Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 08:52:48
... but ffs, why are we chasing gurners like Josh Low and Richie Jones?

That is all.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 08:58:04
Because Malpas cannot attract anyone of any calibre.

Remember- he didnt tie up the Cox thing


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 08:59:30
I have to say, not sure if it's cos I'm in a bit of a bad mood this morning, but I agree DMR.  Getting a bit fed up with being linked to such non-entity players.

Thank God the new board are here and financial stability has been found because on the transfer side of things there's nothing to get excited about at all.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:02:21
who should we be going for then?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:04:33
I don't know Yeovil, I don't play Football Manager 08.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:06:21
I have it on good authority that Malpas doesn't want to sign anyone under 6ft tall.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:10:27
Quote from: "Samdy Gray"
I have it on good authority that Malpas doesn't want to sign anyone under 6ft tall.


I can just see the Adver tomorrow

"Bushey Boy's hopes of Swindon call up dashed"


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:48:35
give the bloke a chance - preseason has only just begun
 .... hardly anyone but Chelsea in English football has signed anyone of significance .. there is still time

- Trust Malpas to get it right - we arent far off a pretty good side capable of a promotion challenge


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Foggy on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:54:17
Quote from: "STFC Bart"
Because Malpas cannot attract anyone of any calibre.

Remember- he didnt tie up the Cox thing



Hello Bart ,welcome back :blahblahblah:


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:54:39
IF you didn't want to sound negative then you wouldn't have posted this thread.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:57:03
Jones sounds alright to me. Young, decent pedigree from United, has played on loan in the championship and was rated by Yeovil fans last season.

Lowe does sound a bit shit though, I'll give you that.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 09:57:15
nevermind, Jones will sign for Hearts within the next 2 days. Had a medical y-day according to my mate they just said on the radio


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:15:16
Was in the WDP today that Jones is off to Hearts.

As for Josh Low, I get the feeling Malpas isn't that bothered, or he'd offer him something a bit more substantial to persuade him to sign. So I'd wager he's got other targets he's waiting on. That might just be me though.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:40:45
Jones is potentially signing for Hearts and had Burnley interested in him.  Who are we supposed to be getting then if clubs much bigger than we are right now are signing these non entities?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:43:48
To be fair Rob, I know it wasn't clear from my post but I was mainly talking about Low (and to a certain extent Amankwaah), as I had written off Jones due to higher league interest.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:47:41
Quote from: "janaage"
Quote from: "Samdy Gray"
I have it on good authority that Malpas doesn't want to sign anyone under 6ft tall.


I can just see the Adver tomorrow

"Bushey Boy's hopes of Swindon call up dashed"


Malpas out! :D


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Foggy on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:49:57
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
Quote from: "janaage"
Quote from: "Samdy Gray"
I have it on good authority that Malpas doesn't want to sign anyone under 6ft tall.


I can just see the Adver tomorrow

"Bushey Boy's hopes of Swindon call up dashed"


Malpas out! :D


Surely you would be better off at a smaller club?  :wink:


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:52:41
But that's my point Jan.  If people think Jones is a nobody and we should be doing better, but he goes to higher league clubs, then clearly who we think is any good is on the wrong radar.  Low is the type of player we can compete for, that's the way it is.  We may get lucky with the odd youngster from the Prem willing to give up the big bucks to play some football (they are on silly money at Reserve level these days), but mostly we'll be competing for the types of player like Low.  Mulgrew looks a decent shout, but he's probably only possible because of Malpas having worked with him before.

At the end of the day we are small club right now.  We may have potential blah blah, but we are where we are.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:16:32
we showed last season that we aint far of a side that could push for the play offs.but we have lost a key player in comminges and the manager that made us the decent side we were(sturrock)
we had a big blip when malpas took over. and i'm worried that he wont get the best out of the players, and make the much needed signings to make that push for promotion.
anything less than at least looking like a side that can challenge is faliure in my opinion.
i hope my worries are to be proved wrong and the players malpas is after are good anough along with his management.

off the pitch everything is looking great but the product on the pitch is vitally important.
if malpas fails then it will be time wasted


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:23:30
We're in League One. We won't be signing any big names/star players. That's always been the case and will be until we get out of this league.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:24:51
so having a manager that can get the best out of our players is vital.
can malpas do this with his confusing tactics?
we will find out soon enough


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:27:12
Quote from: "arriba"
so having a manager that can get the best out of our players is vital.
can malpas do this with his confusing tactics?
we will find out soon enough


Yes we will i guess. He got playing some very good football at times so let's see what we do when things kick off.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:54:28
Quote from: "DMR"
... but ffs, why are we chasing gurners like Josh Low and Richie Jones?

That is all.


I bet you've seen both of them play, what? at the most 3 times....I'm also willing to be for at least 2 of those games you were drunk to!

Quote from: "STFC Bart"
Because Malpas cannot attract anyone of any calibre.

Remember- he didnt tie up the Cox thing


I suppose he didnt sign McNamee either - that was someone else, but of course Moses Ashikodi was Malpas signing  :roll: oooh Timlin was someone else as well I suppose

Quote from: "arriba"
so having a manager that can get the best out of our players is vital.
can malpas do this with his confusing tactics?
we will find out soon enough


We're unbeaten in what, our last 6 games? So maybe is doing something right.

So far under Malpas we've had a really bad spell and a really good spell. Everyone seems to remember the bad one much more!


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 12:08:45
i wish we signed gurners. that'd be great, it'd confuse the fuck out of the opposition


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 12:56:30
Agree with ONION,but as ive sed before we wont get 6000 tiks sold without just a little more ambition on the players front.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 13:00:01
dv,byrne targetted mcnamee and he would have joined anyway.and timlin was known to the club also.
agree about the last 6 games and hope he continues to get those results this season.
and maybe people remember the bad spell more, as we slid form  just outside the playoffs to just above relegation in a matter of weeks.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 13:52:40
Loads of players have resurrected their careers once they changed clubs, why not Low?

All this slagging off of potential new signings does nothing anyway, so why bother?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 16:18:42
Low is only coming as cover until Roberts is fit though no?

If Ritchie Jones turns us down to sign for Hearts, that suggests to me that it is the two first messages on this thread that are gash, and not our transfer targets.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: JPC82 on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 16:26:31
Quote from: "arriba"
dv,byrne targetted mcnamee and he would have joined anyway.and timlin was known to the club also.
agree about the last 6 games and hope he continues to get those results this season.
and maybe people remember the bad spell more, as we slid form  just outside the playoffs to just above relegation in a matter of weeks.


Sturrock was after McNamee when he was here, and obviously he brought Timlin & Cox here on loan deals, why Malpas get knocked about signings ill never know!
Just because a previous manager wanted 3 quality players (Cox Timlin McNamee) does that make Malpas shit? would u rather he didnt sign them and got 3 other players?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 16:27:38
^^^^^^^^^

I agree entirely.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 17:13:04
AF said at the outset, they wouldn't throw silly money at this.  Clearly the likes of Low is a player who comes within the budget.  If we are to progress then it will be by adding value to players who on the surface seem flawed.  We're not going to acquire quality by buying it.

  I happen to agree with  MM that big buggers is the way forward.....when we played Sarfend what struck, was that fellas like Mulgrew just imposed themselves physically on our lads.

  We need a bit of that for  away games.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 17:39:50
I fully agree Reg, the only other thing I would like to see is an on-pitch leader, obviosuly someone like Ray McHale, Shaun Taylor, Paul Ince, Roy Keane would be wonderful but someone who can motivate players on pitch when things are going poorly is needed IMO.

Where we can get one of those from I dont know! but I would like to see one at the club, someone vocal who the players respect and that can pass orders down to the players on the pitch while playing, the only ones that could come close at the club already are Hasney and Peacs.

But getting back to previous points....big imposing players are a good addition to the squad, scare the life out of the opponents before you start.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 18:16:59
I remember Reading fans whinging about 10 years ago, after we won at elm park, that it wasn't fair and it wasn't footballas we had a team of 6 foot plus skinheads,, that muscled them off the park, so good move imo.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 18:29:46
Haven't we learned anything from big name players?

I'd much rather Malpas assembles a squad that blends youth with players that have played at this level.

Brighton, Scunthorpe, Colchester have all gone up without a superstar name  in the past - all it takes in League 1 is for a striker to bang in 25 goals with 2 or 3 others helping out to have a promotion push - our last 3rd tier Play-Off squad wasn't amazing - put it had Parkin and Mooney.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 03:32:20
Quote from: "STFC Bart"
Because Malpas cannot attract anyone of any calibre.

Remember- he didnt tie up the Cox thing


Hang on Bart.

So if MM didn't tie up the "Cox thing" then how come Cox is with us now?

And all of this "He was a Sturrock/Byrne signing" is wearing a bit thin now, and the likes of Cox and McManatee knew full well that MM is manager when they signed and so the "Malpas cannot attract anyone of any calibre" argument is a non-goer.

Get a grip, and get a life.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: yeo on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 03:41:53
Isn't this all rather tiresome.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 06:52:24
Quote from: "yeovil red"
Isn't this all rather tiresome.
:goodpost:


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:21:23
My only concern is that hearts,burnley and possibly others have shown intent yet malpas wanted to give him a trial at first :?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:31:46
Quote from: "JPC82"
Quote from: "arriba"
dv,byrne targetted mcnamee and he would have joined anyway.and timlin was known to the club also.
agree about the last 6 games and hope he continues to get those results this season.
and maybe people remember the bad spell more, as we slid form  just outside the playoffs to just above relegation in a matter of weeks.


Sturrock was after McNamee when he was here, and obviously he brought Timlin & Cox here on loan deals, why Malpas get knocked about signings ill never know!
Just because a previous manager wanted 3 quality players (Cox Timlin McNamee) does that make Malpas shit? would u rather he didnt sign them and got 3 other players?


did i say malpas was shit?
i was pointing out that he wasn't responsible for the players signatures that's all.
i back him fully and hope he is the man for us.but i am a bit worried if truth be known and i'vesaid so before.
that is different to saying he is shit.
10 games in and i will have a cast iron opinion on the bloke


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: DV on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 11:36:32
Quote from: "arriba"

i was pointing out that he wasn't responsible for the players signatures that's all.


Aside from the fact he actually was?


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 13:15:43
Quote from: "DV"
Quote from: "arriba"

i was pointing out that he wasn't responsible for the players signatures that's all.


Aside from the fact he actually was?


its true, he was.  Just because someone else identified the targets for him, dosnt mean he HAD to sign them, especially as 2 of them are for big money in STFC terms.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: DV on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 13:22:00
Also, the fact is.....if these plays didnt want to play for Malpas they wouldnt have signed.

Simon Cox could have easily turned around and not signed because of the change in manager.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 15:17:08
But dont let the facts get in the way of a good whinge


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 16:01:55
don't most Managers get recommended players before signing them?  Isn't that why clubs have a scouting network in the first place (something established since Malpas joined)?

Who cares who recommends the players, it's the Manager who then decides to buy them or not.


Title: Now I don't want to sound negative...
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 3, 2008, 16:29:12
Quote from: "DV"
Quote from: "arriba"

i was pointing out that he wasn't responsible for the players signatures that's all.


Aside from the fact he actually was?


as being pedantic seems the order of the day...

cox would have signed anyway,as would macnamee.the work had already been done to secure their signatures by byrne,and it had been run by fitton.
 the players could have said "no i dont want to play for malpas" so he must have been positive himself towards the lads.
so yes he was the boss who signed them, but it would have happend anywa ,if byrne and willaims got the job.malpas got the job and the deals were finalised.

this is not a pop at malpas it's just the way it was.credit due to him for taking byrnes advice i suppose.