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Just wondered Paul after reading some of the comments on this forum about how alot of fans and myself included whether you could maybe address someone at the club about the stewarding...it simply isnt up to scratch.Most seem to want to antagonise us good people who have departed with good money rather than steward,lets face it if you go to a big concert etc ware there are big crowds you dont get treated like that.Iknow its a concern for alot of us,ive been to alot of grounds and with a few exceptions most of the stewarding puts ours to shame.

Try spending it.

I'm sure Paul will have his own answer, but the club are aware of the stewarding and it is part of the 10 point plan so I fully expect it to be addressed in some way.

never had a problem with our stewarding. They've let the town end stand up for the last 8 seasons, there's very few clubs where they'd let you get away with that.

We have raised the issue repeatedly. In fact I think I'm right in saying we've raised it at every meeting we've had with the club since the new regime came in. It's certainly something they've said they're aware of and one I hope is part of the changes they're implementing this summer, although whether this is by wholesale changes of personnel/subcontracted firms or by a less drastic route I don't know. I'll make sure we ask the question again as to what is being done about this to ensure all our lovely new season ticket holders don't get a faceful of arsiness as their first taste of the Swindon Experience next season.

It would help if people could email us with any specific issues they may have encountered, what (if anything) they've done to complain about it and what (if any) resolution there was to the complaint. As opposed to going into a meeting saying "You know, a lot of the fans aren't terribly keen on that fat heifer one. And something bad happened to someone's flask, although I'm not sure what".

i wonder if me and yeovil are allowed back in the arkells

yes - tell them I said so

Someone has found something to moan about  :shock:

That's a bit harsh IOB - there's still a lot of people who do feel there are issues with the stewarding and if we are to sell 6000 season tickets a lot of that will have to be to "new" fans plus I think part of the strategy would also be to not just rest on an enlarged season ticket base but grow the numbers month on month with matchday ticket price offers etc so we can start pushing on to 8,9 even (whisper it quietly) 10,000 crowds over the next few seasons. If the first experience of these new/returning fans who will be needed to make this happen is surly, rude or aggressive stewarding they won't be back.

Wasnt moaning onion,just asking the Question.i sit in the Town End every match and when some fukwit tells me to sit down 30 seconds after weve just scored it pisses me off,if people want to see the match sitting down watch it in the other stands ,its not rocket science.Anyway Paul it may not be a problem to mr Rimmer and co but thanks for asking the club and hopefully this new regime which are doing the right things tick another box..thanks for getting back Paul.

i'm sorry leefer.but if you want the club to change stewards because they want you to quite rightly sit down then it will fall on deaf ears.
i dont want to get into an arguement over all seater stadiums but it is what it is.

I've never been told to sit down in the town end.

sit down in the town end dave

tee hee

I'm afraid arriba's right on this - if this is your cause for complaint, then you're on a hiding to nothing. I was talking more about the various other complaints people have made re rude/aggressive stewarding. Although even in the case of being told to sit down, you'd expect them to do it politely (ish). Anyway, the whole issue of stewarding is an ongoing issue and we'll ask for an update next time we meet.

I can't read IOB without thinking of 'ignorant old bastard'.

as correct as you are, it would piss me off too, fortunately I stood up every game last season and wasn't asked to sit down once.

I'm still in favour of a standing zone, I think with todays policing and in a controlled environment it's perfectly workable.

thats an issue for the football authoritys though, not stfc.
rules is the rules dude

yeah, it works in other countries and it can here too, especially in the lower leagues where a good chunk of people want to stand but not cause trouble.

I've joined the national petition. *sigh*.

I think the Stewards are ace

Especially that chief one.

The Tangos are a mob of bully boy nightclub bouncers always looking for a fight. I don't think the yellows speak a word of English between them. None should be anywhere near a league football match.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  the full flask story can be found in the "things they are a changing" thread

As has been mentioned elsewhere.. Some of the stewards are employed directly by the club..  these are the ones in the Exec area- I think!

The rest work for an outside agency. Reason for this is historic.

1: In order to meet expected gates, the club have to use a set number of stewards. This formula is set by the FA or is the FL not sure which!

When the stewards were employed by the club and recruited locally they couldn't get enough on a regular basis to meet these requirements. If there were too few stewards at the time that the gates were due to open the game would go ahead behind closed doors and there would beno income from the gates.

The original agency supplied stewards from across the region to meet our needs. These were generally of a good standard and no one complained.

Standards have been allowed to fall over the years as it has been difficult to recruit, even for the agencies.

2: Using an agency also helps with the admin.  No problems for the payroll dept. No need to raise all those Payslips and P60s. Just one monthly cheque to pay for them

O,K it seems i might be losing this debate,i only used the standing incident as a way of trying to explain,as for ARRIBA saying its not the clubs problem sorry mate thats Bull,if ime in the minority bye saying the stewarding is shocking....well the minority can still be heard eh!!Really though i should have just said what Melksham Red feels about them.

To be fair it's a valid point raised. I'm not a fan of the stewarding either. I think i've got a bit used to all this good news this summer  8)

Ace  8)

wont be long before they raise the white flag on the standing all across the leagues.

Always was uninforcable.

Me too onion...ime really up for this season,Fitton and Co are taking us places!

you missed my point completely i think leefer.
i'm not disputing that our stewards are cunts.i have made numerous comments in different threads slating them.but basing your arguement on the standing issue wont hold any weight with the board of stfc.
i did think i made it clear first time, but hopefully you see where i'm coming from now.

In today's adver's job section there is an ad from C & D recruitment saying they have won the contract to supply the STFC stewards for next season and that they are holding an open day at the CG on July 5 for those interested and will advise how to get the NVQ qualification reqd.

Hopefully this will mean no return for the 'security' stewards for next season.

Ace news.

Who are C & D recruitment? Anyone know anything about them?

If they are a decent company who can do a job for the club at a reasonable price, then fair play.

If they are another bunch of cunts who employ arseholes like 'Shithouse' and fat bellied wankers/dykes in high-viz waistcoats who work the doors of dodgy nightclubs in their spare time, they can fuck right off.

They sponser the town end and have offices on commercial road.

OK. Presumably they will be fairly well known to the club management bods then and will be trusted or expected to do a decent job. Result!

I think it is inevitable that some of the stewards that were there last season will get a job again, but hopefully as stated the likes of Moorhouse and his crew will not be employed so as to make it much better without it feeling like you are being watched by the gistapo

Moorhouse is employed directly by the club, as are all the guys in the orange jackets. Yellow jackets are agency workers.

I suspected as much....let's hope they didn't renew their contracts then

We wanted to get rid of them, but they unfortunately had extension clauses in their contracts meaning we have to keep them for another year.

 :wink:

Yeah, once they'd shopped so many hoolies it automatically triggered another year.