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I have been told today (by a usually reliable sauce) that Crewe have made an inquiry for Billy Paynter.

300k?

Then we can get Gillespie?

Well over-priced, sell sell sell!!!

If we can get cash for him then we should then try and sign someone a bit more consistent

Crewe won't have 300k surely!!!???!!!

I saw a small child yesterday that looked exactly like Billy Paynter - it freaked me out

Where has 300K come from. I though land of bo just made that figure up?

I think he has.... But do Crewe have any money?

Is Paynter likely to command much of a fee?

I don't think we will sell. We haven't really seen what a fit Paynter can or can't deliver yet.

Not enough goals, and too many red cards

Anything over 36p and we should sell him and geta striker that can actually score goals

Id rather have Paynter than Gillespie. Don't sale.

take the 36p and spend it on the pitch.

sometimes I wonder if you lot actually watch football.

we shouldnt be selling Paynter or even thinking about it, after Cox he is our best striker and a Cox/Paynter partnership week in and week out will get you goals and plenty of them.

Paytner was good when he was on form last season, just sadly every time he fit form he got sent off!

DO.NOT.SELL.

our second top scorer last season with 10 goals?

Yes that is right DV you are right and we are all wrong.We should only sell though if we have a replacement lined up

His goals to games ratio is far from fantastic, his goals came in bursts, he went 15 games without scoring, there has been plenty of games where he has been at best ineffective. And he cant jump to save his life. But you're the expert of course.

Despite having said all that I do think theres a decent player lurking within him, but we need to see a lot more from him next season to make him worthwhile.

Well, I just happen to think he's a good player and he's much better than Sturrock and Corr.

If we have got replacement strikers lined up, its Sturrock and Corr we should be replacing not Paynter.

He'll get 15 goals next season upfront with Cox.

A fit Corr is a far better player than billy boy.

i can see a cox-paynter partnership working well next year too. Paynter does a lot of the donkey work upfront which some people miss

Have we ever even seen a fit Corr?

I think Corr is probably a better League One tall target man, but not a better alround player than Billy if that makes sense.

If Corr can get fit and stay fit, great....if he cant then look to replacing him. He didnt earn his wages this season, far from it....

Donkey work wont score goals.

Agree about Corr DV

if you've got cox scoring 20+ goals then paynters more than adequate of getting at least 15. thats plenty

you'd hope that the donkey work, would hopefully allow other players to score the goals.

Like I said Paynter did it in and fits and spells last season. At one stage him and Cox looks liked the best pairing since Parkin and Mooney and did manage 26 goals between them.

Sendings off came at bad times for him and he couldnt get back into the side towards the end.

Think there is more than enough potential there to keep hold of him.

Im always willing to replace players if we've got better lined up, but we've got strikers worse than Paytner we could replace in my opinion!

Donkey work seems an appropraite phrase to me.   I'd rather see peacock up front, I thought he was quite good when he got put back up front for a run of games.  

Most of the time we look a better team with someone who is good in the air upfront.  there were occasions when we played better football without a target man (carlise) but most of the time our team is simply not good enough at passing the ball on the deck so we end up playing hoofball to dwarves

Paynter is still young and learning the game. Definitely has some potential.

I look forward to him getting a run in the side especially with McNamee doings wonderous things on the left wing.

He seems to drop to deep si and by the time its whipped in he is no where near.

As for everyone saying about donkey work imo Simon Cox is the one who closes down in the channels and dont stop working.We need a striker that will just aim to get straight in the box

ever watched the shooting practice the subs do at half time, and pre kick off?
paynter was bloody awful at it.
when peacock( the bloke who admitted he aint a striker  :? ) keeps you out the team, then it doesn't look good.
he's a physical threat but thats about it.a natural goalscorer he aint.
i had big hopes when we signed him, but dont really rate him now

I do watch the warm up before the game, and if we go purely on that our best and most accurate striker of the ball was Andy fucking Nicholas!!!

by that judgement andy nicholas should be a 30 goal a season striker

I dunno, Brez can strike a ball, shove him up top/

Arriba said he was awful at it did not compare players at all

Fair point, slightly misinturpreted what I was trying to say.

Our midfield was creatively shit last season until little McNamee came along. I think we sit too deep as a whole team but hopefully better creativity will mean strikers don't come looking for the ball.

Also, as an example I think Rooney sits too deep a lot of the time, but it works because he draws out the defence whilst others get forward.

no not at all.but shouldn't a stiker prepare properly and try to score?surely you'd think a pro who wants to play would be as sharp as he could be?paynter was fucking dire at shooting-ie his fucking job!
and my point wasn't purely based on that anyway.

paynter grafts and hussles, but is a bit ropey infront of goal.
in warm ups and during matches!

Thats the first and last time Paynter will ever be compared to rooney :D

And Arriba is right about his shooting at HT, its dire.

Ah right sorry mate, i agree with that , what we need to remember aswell i suppose is that most of these are not mm's players so it is not suprising that he maynot be in his plans.It is ok Dv saying he scored goals but what did he do under Malpas

I think Cox wasn't too hot when Malpas has been in charge as well.

I'd like to see a more attacking solution next year, whether that would be achieved by dropping players such as Billy Paynter I do not know.

As for the Rooney example, it wasn't a comparison, just merely an example that you don't have to be up in the box all of the time.

Problem is when the team sit deep you can't stay up there because the opposition defence pushes up and you stray offside. Naturally a player tries to win the ball when they're in their own half too.

EDIT: although I do agree Paynter drops back too much. I even think Cox did towards the end of the season

Cracking save against Huddersfield though  :wink:

Paynter and Cox is our best strikeforce by some distance. If we sell Paynter we're bloody stupid in my opinion. If we're going to sell anyone it should be Corr.

There are loads of players like the Paynters of this world, they look good, they please the crowd, but the criteria for a striker is to hit the back of the net.
If he moves on I'm sure he will do a good job for another club, but a frontline player he is not.
If we are to move on to another level we need more than a 10 goal a season front man.

I didn't.

Oi!  I got the perfect hattrick last week. :mrgreen:

we need another striker and i think malpass will buy one at the moment we have too many average ones apart from a fit barry corr

hqha, spo a simon cox is a an average striker. tyou silly bilyly

Been on the beer again then Dave?

Who would ever risk money on Barry Corr?He's got a glass shoulder!

I'd say it's more like balsa wood.

One of the big problems we have is that whether its Corr or Paynter they seem to play off of Cox instead of the other way around. I must admit I have no strong feelings one way or the other with Paynter staying or going. I should think thuogh that we'd be lucky to get any kind of fee for him.
He's not done enough to excite me and he hasn't done enough to piss me off.

He is a nasty nasty man

He swore at me :(

If it was you giving him grief behind the goal then you deserved it!

Well no i shouted at the whole team, my words were ffs sort it out Town and he turned round and told me to Fuck off so then i gave him grief.

Nasty bugger

There's a trend here. Town players seem to like telling you to fuck off. How is Mr Pook?  :D

They do not like constructive critisism.The other trend is all the players who say it are also shit at the time

DRS is the motivating factor behind Towns best performances this season.

As I reminded him yesterday, Jamie Vincents improvement after their conversation at Walsall was significant 8)

This is true although it was against Crewe :D

The best bit was when he said"i am trying"

You are correct.

However, his actual words were, 'That's what I'm fucking trying to do!' If memory serves me (Which, as I initially got the wrong game, may not be the case)

Walsall was memorable for another reason, wasn't it? :(

Yes you touched me

You remember?

I'm obviously not using enough rohypnol(sp)..........

You prick you said it was poppers