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getting the chop. that's ridiculous.

Haha, what a joke that sinawrata is. He'll probabl be banged up in a thai prison soon anyway, then man city will be properly fucked.

thats crazy - Sven had done a good job ... obviously their defence was going to a bit weak with Dunne and Richards out of late tho

that shinatra sounds a right cunt.

Only won 6 of his 22 league games since December, there form in the 2nd half of the season has been shocking.  Sven is over rated.

Considering they have more points than any other season in the prem  he has done a good job, he has lost dunne and Richards so of course he is going to struggle

Fucking stupid decision

Who's gonna want to come in and replace him now?
Stupid desicion.

Quite a few managers I would imagine, they will be given lots of transfer money like Sven and as long as they sign better players than he did they should get Man City in a good position as Petrov and Elano (at times) aside he has signed some awful players this year.

What is it with this Sven effect on the english general public?  He was an average manager for your national team, city have been poor this term, played some dreadful football and yet everyone (including the kj's on MOTD) seem to think the bloke is the best thing since Alf Ramsay.

Not sure whether he deserves the sack but if Sam Allardyce had been City manager and produced identical results I don't think the city fans would be too sad to see the back of the bloke.

 :goodpost:

I don't think he's the best thing since anything, but City were superb during the first half of the season and have enjoyed their highest finish for years - all this from a aquad that was piss poor last season. I'd say Sven's done a pretty decent job. His England career has nothing to do with it, he's done a good job IMO.

The point is though Jan that he has been Citys best Manager in a long time and he showed that when his players were fit they could produce results

DRS he has also spent alot of money more than most City Managers have been given in years gone by, look at the signings below, most of them flops:

Look at his signings though, nearly 40 million: In: Vedran Valeri Bojinov (Fiorentina, undisclosed), Corluka (Dinamo Zagreb, Undisclosed) , Elano (Shakhtar Donetsk, £8m), Javier Garrido (Real Sociedad, £1.5m), Joe R Bianchi (Reggina, £8.8m), Geovanni (Cruzeiro, free), G Fernandes (Sion, undisc) Petrov (atheltico madrid) Benjani (Portsmouth)

Juddie, city weren't superb earlier in the season, for example at the start of the season they were top after three matches, West Ham at home (where they were lucky to get a point) Derby 1-0,  and Man Utd 1-0 where the shouls have been beaten by a cricket score.  Yes they've had the good result here and there, but I haven't been that impressed with City at all this year at all.  MOTD pundits heap praise on everything they do, without looking at the whole picture.

Couple of edits, one "excellent" to "superb", and two replacing Sunderland with Derby.

Sven was the best manager England have had for years, and wasn't doing a bad job at City. It takes longer than a season to really get your own side together IMO, ridiculous decision.

Best manager since Hoddle maybe, but that really isn't saying that much is it?

No City weren't superb but they were better. They are making the step. The step between being a team that is always bobbling around in mid-table and moving to challenge the top six or so. They were also having to do it quickly because that is what Shinawatra demands - mostly for ego/domestic reasons.

Sure Sven has spent money and much of it hasn't worked out but he has had to build that team in one-season. Building teams takes time, getting a squad that fits together takes time. It is a whole new team.

Shinawatra is demanding big signing and Sven can't deliver that because big names don't want to play mid-table football in Manchester. Sure, it's easy to attract people to Old Trafford but City? They aren't even in Europe. Shinawatra seems to think that if you spend it they will come. He doesn't seem to get that good players - and he wants world class ones - want world class clubs.

I'm not defending Sven massively. He's a prosaic manager who produces prosaic sides with mostly prosaic players. But at the moment Shinawatra is asking for too much.

Sorry, no work to do today  :)

England currently have the best manager since Hoddle, even though I thought Hoddle was shit and the rest who followed were total wank.
Coppello looks like a straight talking bloke, who will play it the way he wants and not the way the papers or his senior players want him to play.
Sven was bleeding dreadful in my opinion.
Will never forget his forward selections for the last world cup, I think he picked the players on account of the looks of the wags, he was/is a total pillock.
Hes had fortunates to spend at Man City and brought dross.

Some good points there, perhaps the way Hansen and co lapped up the City start to the season did not help, as it may have raised the owners' expectation levels to an unrealistic plateau.

As someone else said elsewhere on t'web, you sell your club to some money rich mad man from some foreign clime and what stops him from making such rash decisions.

I think Sven was wrongfully criticised by the English media, who were the cause of some of the nation to believe they have truely world class player when most of over-rated (by the media again). Hence why so many English people think Sven did a shite job. OK he was defensive at times but overall I thought he did pretty well.

Sven was Englands best manager since SBR

Considering he had 2-3 weeks to get these players thats not too bad imo

That's saved me a job, although I rate Sven a touch more highly. In one season he has taken a team that didn't score a single home goal in the entire second half of last season and turned them into a team that is four points behind Aston Villa, who most people I hope would recognise have also had a promising season, and seven points ahead of the team in 10th. He has effectively moved them from the bottom tier of the Premier League into the second tier. Progress next season would be to top that second tier (Everton's postion) and then use European football to attempt to bridge the gap to the top four in the future. Oh, and they have played some genuinely fine football on occasion, such as in their wholly merited win at Old Trafford.

Spurs' record since they won the League Cup has been pretty terrible, their fans can be glad this tinpot dictator is not chairman of their club.

"SBR" ha ha, dude you seriously have memory problems calling Sir Bob a top england manager, or at least implying it.  Average in 86, awful in 88 and mediocre in 90?  Italia 90 does my head in the way everyone has this rose tinted spectacle way of thinking about Robson's team.

Awful in the groups, last min winner v Belgium, nearly knocked out against Cameroon and then after 5 matches they play well enough against the Germans, only to lose.

In 88 Robson was about as popular as Sydney Cooke at Mothercare.

double bubble.

Sir Bobby got England to the World Cup Semis and they lost on penalties to us, which is unlucky. They could have ended up in the final - how many other managers for England have done the same. That is my case for saying Robson is a top manager

I appreciate he got them to the semi-final, but I honestly think history has played it's part in elevating Robson to the level of demi-God.  As at the time he was not that highly thought of at all.  In fact some of the criticism in the mid late eighties aimed at Robson was pretty close to the bone at times.

Cant really add anything that hasnt already been said, other than I'm in the Sven has done a decent job this season camp.

Yeah he had money to spend, but city were dire last season and he had a couple of weeks to assemble a squad. Losing 2 quality defenders in recent weeks has hardly helped their form either, they would have won on saturday with Richards & Dunne in the team

There form has been patchy since December not just in recent weeks though and Richards and Dunne have played in some of those games.

So on that basis should everton sack david moyes?

My sauces told me that Sven didn't offer Thaksin anywhere near enough money for the orgy he had with his 17 year old lady boy son and 12 year old Khao San Road hooker daughter....








Allegedly.

Man City have won 6 games since December.

Everton have won 10 games since December.

Everton have also done well in Uefa Cup, League Cup and are on course to finish 5th in the premiership so to draw a comparison is crazy.

Yes thats true. But mid table sides are patchy by nature. I'm not sure how Sven is supposed to have taken a poor side last year any further than upper mid table, even with £40m to spend (which as mental as its sounds to us isnt a spectacular amount by premier league standards) bearing in mind that the sides above them have had both investment and managerial continuety for at least a couple of seasons.

Everton have had the same (good) manager for 3/4 years (?) they have built towards the position they are in now.

I disagree Jan. Last year they played shite football and coulnd;t buy a goal at home. This year, they were in contention for a European place until February, when their cack run started, and in Elano and Petrov they've unearthed two gems. Bianchi wasn't given a chance, while Corluka looks more and more like a decent centre back as the season continues.

Some of the other signings have been poor, but remember this is only their first season. Patrice Evra and Vidic were also poor in their first seasons in England.

Yes he's spent a lot of money, but I thought he did well to create a cohesive team so quickly. Sven is a good manager: fact. He had the nous to attract players, too.

Sven is a decent manager. Bet they do the same next year.

Everton have spent alot less and made more astute signings.  Sven should of looked more at domestic signings he seemed more intent at signing any old johnny foreigner who would obviously take longer time to adapt to the league.

Why is it crazy? they are seven points behind them and its hardly svens fault city are not in europe is it? as colin todd says he has been given a chance to progress which is what sven or any manager should be given.

that was because moyes spent his budget last january When he bought Yakubu for 12m

And Moyes is Scottish!!   :wink:   Before anyone else comes in with the "Scotland card".

Yes thats also true, but Sven needed half a squad in a few weeks. Would he have been better off spending £6m each on the likes of Nugent, Chopra or Jones?  Or about that figure each on Elano & Petrov?

Its still massively different David Moyes wasn't given 46 million to spend in his first season and actually spent the first year keeping them in the division since then he has taken them to a champions league place and into europe I would say thats more down to skilled management than spending loads of players.  Moyes signs the right players who he knows will do a job in the premiership Lescott, Jagielka, Phil Neville, Sven should of took a leaf out of his book.

I like Sven because the sweaties don't  8)

 :mrgreen:

With 2 weeks preparation? What did you think of him as a England manager by the way?

i think sven has done a pretty good job.certainly not one deserving of the sack.
fucking ridiculous imo.

I felt he was an okay England manager no worse than any other of the past 2 decades.  As far as preperation goes he has had the whole season to make decent signings to which he has pretty much failed at Petrov and Elano aside.  Just look how much Benjani's form has dipped since he has been there.

I think city will go through 4 managers in as many years now.

Hmmm its almost like the Swindon effect here!

Good start to the season raised the chairmans expectation levels. If Man City has been consistent all season (rather than being good then bad) most fans would have taken a 9th place finish and so would have the chairman!

That's harsh on Sven but if he wants to come here he's more than welcome  :mrgreen:

I suspect Sinawatra, will turn City into a sort of Prem equivalent of Hearts...

Malpas Out!!!!! :wink:

The Premier league makes me chuckle.Chairmen must surely realise that all good players eventually end up at the big 4-so if you unearth a gem you've only got one season to get the benefit and no ones gonna break into the elite.Watch Berbatov,Cruz and Petrov move on in the summer,clubs like City have got no chance

Isn't Curbishley also under pressure - saved West Ham from going down last year and a top half finish this season - the directors say it's not good enough.

I think lookin at what Mclaren acheived with pretty much the same group of players as sven shows just how well we did under sven

http://www.danharlow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kim-jong-il.jpg

Heeeerrrrrrrooooooo

http://media.npr.org/dvd/2005/may/team_america/blix.jpg

Take that Sven Eriksson you fucking cocksucker

Who the hell is Cruz?

He's only scored about 25 goals this season

Ah, Santa Claus, gotcha.

[pedant] 17 actually [/pedant] :)

So its Scolari then;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7387397.stm

He'll do it 'his waaaay'

If that's true it's a joke. He's done a great job so far.

What I am most interested in discovering is this: How does an alleged serial human rights abuser of international repute, deal with someone who is going to cost him a lot of money to fire?

I think the shark tank as per my earlier post has to be favourite.