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I can't be arsed to go and find one of the older threads.

It's been better than I expected so far. I was worried that Catherine Tate was going to be a bit annoying, but she's at least bearable. I like the change of direction with the companion, it was starting to turn into a bit of love in.

There hasn't really been a stand out good episode yet, not on the same level as Dalek, Blink or that one with The Girl in the Fireplace. Only 3 episodes in though, and I think it's got potential.

So what does everybody think the running thing will be this year? Russell thingy Gavies has said that it won't be a single obvious thing like Bad Wolf / Torchwood / Mr. Saxon, but more a combination of things.

I'm going for something to do with the Shadow Proclamation or the Medusa Cascade. The first two episodes of this series involved planets that had been destroyed in their back-stories, I reckon that might play a part. In the recent Ood episode the thing at the end said that the Doctor's song might end soon, pretty ominous.

Obviously there's going to be an opportunity for some companion overload. A Rose, Martha, Donna and Captain Jack orgy of contention could be fun or horrendous to watch, depending on where they go with it. I think they've got to properly kill off Rose though. Has to be done

Anyone else noted any Who foreshadowing? Or disagree and think the new series is horrible?

On a related note, next year there isn't going to be a proper series due to David Tennant promising him self to the Royal Shakespeare peeps in Macbeth. Instead they'll be 4 bank holiday specials + the normal Christmas effort. Hopefully they'll use the time for some proper mad major story arc.

Jenna loves it mate

I cant be arsed really

Love it but episode 1 was a pile of shit. Is getting better. Still think Tom Baker was the best ever doctor followed by John Pertwee. The current one is also very good.

I agree with Tom Baker and Pertwee being the best ones. I also like Tennant, he get's down the mix of cheeky flamboyance with limited benevolence (everybody gets their one chance) and a nice amount of underlying melancholy.

Just watch yesterdays Ood episode. Pile of wank.

Anyway, 2 weeks in a row the doctor has been turned into a "god". By the family saved from Pompei, and now by the ood.

It wasn't brilliant. Pretty predictable slavery morality tale with a substandard action scene in the middle. I wouldn't go as far as a pile of wank though.

Not sure about the god thing. He is the last of the time lords, which sort of makes him a borderline god anyway. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

Doctor Who is rubbish.

I reckon he'll find more timelords at some point, just have the feeling that's where it's going

I reckon the darleks will shoot Doctor Who down with a heat seeking missile, and then gang rape Billie Piper.

End of.

Totally. Not sure it will be this series though, and he's already found the master who clearly isn't really dead. There was that whole ring picking up thing at the end of the last series.

I've got a feeling this series will be Davros. Not sure what excuse they'll use for him being alive though. I don't really mind to be honest.

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Oh I forgot about the bees!

Next week is a Sontaran two-parter. I bet the Sontarans are allergic to bees.

I'm enjoying it but my critical faculties are somewhat short-circuited by the sheer pleasure of watching it with the kids and seeing how much they enjoy it. It was my turn to do holiday cover for Joe's Easter Holidays this week and took him to see the exhibition in Earls Court which tbh was not all that but he absolutely buzzed off it, which made it all the more fun for me. Added that with unusual foresight I'd ordered Pyramids of Mars from Amazon for those awkward to fill "No I'm not taking you anywhere this morning/afternoon because I'm too knackered/broke from the rest of the week" and it turned out that he and the young un both love Tom Baker as the Doctor (yah boo sucks to the missus as she said they wouldn't get the idea of there being another Doctor) and I'm having a bit of a Dr Who lovefest this week.

[EDIT] The only downer is when I was ordering the Pyramids of Mars I saw they had the Sontaran boxset and toyed with it but decided to try the kids out on a single story DVD first. Now as they loved it and the Sontarans are on again next week, I'm mildly irritated. But hey, we put 5 past Port Vale by half time yesterday and I saw all of them!

Doctor Who seems to turn off the bit of my brain which is at all critical or cynical about stuff. I think it's the theme tune, as soon as it kicks off and you're heading down that vortex my brain switches right on to enjoyment mode.

Paul, you should get (you and) your kids Genesis of the Daleks. I watched it again recently, loads of the new Doctors' moral decisions are clearly influenced by Tom Baker's genocide decision making speech.

Bang on.


It was on my list, along with Talons of Weng Chiang, but Genesis was out of stock and I was a bit worried about scaring the shite out of them with Talons of WC. So I thought I'd try them with Pyramids of Mars, see how they got on. Now it's looking very much like both are going to have to go back on the list. Great thing about having kids - cast-iron excuse to indulge your nostalgia so long as you can persuade the little sods to enjoy what you liked when you were little.

Wait till someone starts a Mr Men thread, I'll be right in there too

I've never seen Talons of WC (abbreviating like that humours me somewhat). I've been watching a lot of Pertwee recently. It loses a lot of it's time travelling space wonderment as he's stranded on Earth quite a lot. But then it's always a bit more scary when the monsters ore on earth, it's a bit of one or the other.

I suspect Talons (trying too hard to sound like a proper whonerd) isn't nearly as frightening as I remember it, but when I watched it as a kid it was a full-on "peeping from behind the sofa trying not to fill your pants but couldn't take your eyes off it" job. As for it being more scary when the monsters are on Earth, in place of Genesis I ordered the Dalek Collection which is the two Peter Cushing as Grandpa Joe from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory does Dr Who films. Unless you have a genuine phobia of Bernard Cribbins or Roy Castle (both of which would be wholly understandable) they're just risible. Although the kids quite liked the different coloured Daleks

the Peter Cushing jobbies aren't really doctor who though. Just pretend films. Booo. I dislike them.

I love your opening piece FB .. as a Who fan myself

Series 4 of the new series has had an ok start without blowing me away - I do like Catherine Tate although she can be annoying at times shes more my age range to fancy - I hope she gets some romance in one of the stories (old romantic me you know!)

Its all building up to a Dalek and Davros and mass companions ending - Will they kill off Tennant?? Im not sure - I dont think they will but SOMEONE IS GOING TO DIE!

Im certain of it! maybe its Rose???

Good points made so far of the Dr and Donna being made Gods in BOTH the last 2 episodes - must be relevant - as is the Bees thing

Ive heard there is a classic monster in the series somewhere - not the obvious one - The Sontarans and Davros but another (bit like Macra in last series)

For the Record - Tom Baker is my top doctor - but DT is going up all the time - he has some Tom Bakerish qualities too - I hope he continues as Dr Who needs the continuity - another Doctor change would be a shame - heres hoping he does at least another 2 FULL series after the specials

And it's already back round to saturday again, ace. I got a bit freaked out last week with the split second flash of rose screaming "Doctor". Mainly because I wasn't sure that I'd seen it. Mental stuff.

So what's everybody thinking. Clone? They did a bit of a close up of his spare hand in a jar at the end of last weeks; not the most subtle thing ever; I'm thinking cloned from that.

Happy days.

I still haven't watched any of this new doctor who. and by new I mean since they started making them again a few years ago.

I don't have a TV so have to wait for the latest one to come up on iPlayer. Been enjoying the series so far. A little lame at times but it's all part of the fun!!! Not sure where its going but I agree that Rose will probably die. Shame really, she's rather attractive.

Just watched an episode that I downloaded.

I think that I'll download some more.

I like the fact that that the theme tune has stayed the same. It's a pretty good Doctor as well, as in he's a bit of a nutter. I think that he should have a big fuck-off scarf though.

The whole thing is really building up to Catherine Tate saying Am I bovvered to some Dalek and getting vaporised.

Oh, I live in hope.

Which episode did you download?

There's the occasional bad episode but normally as long as you can turn of the cynical part of your brain it's good fun. There are some proper good gems of episodes. They're normally the ones written by Steven Moffat (Blink, The gas mask kiddies one and the girl in the fire place for example), who incidentally has been drafted up my Spielberg and Peter Jackson to write a trilogy of scripts for some new Tintin movies. The next Moffat episodes are a two parter starting in a couple of weeks time. Should be good.

Today's was a bit cheesy. It's only a matter of time before the Doctor goes mad from excessive exposure to lady hormones. I think he's going to go mad and hit one of them.

I think his daughter is going to fly off trying to be good and the Doctor will have to go and fix a big mess that she makes. I hope that get's left until next years specials though, it seems a bit of a waste to use up any of the remaining episodes for it. Next week is the Agatha Christie episode, then it's the Moffat two parter (could be resolved there I suppose), then it's the final 3 parter end of series madness.

Oh well, have to wait and see.

It was some episode when some alien race was poisoning the earth through some gas in their cars. They looked like trolls.

The Doctor won, of course.

And Kudos to the beeb for keeping the tardis identical to the original as opposed to "Jazzing it up".

Sontar-HA!

I quite enjoyed today's episode! I thought it would have been best for his daughter to die and that be the end of it but I suppose it depends where they take it from here!

and oh my was the Doctors's daughter gorgeous!

 That is Peter Davidson's daughter....

Indeed it was Reg. She auditioned to be Rose, but obviously the part went to Billy Big Face Piper.

Having had a week's thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that they fucked up a bit in terms of episode allocation between The Doctors Daughter and the Sontaran stuff. TD'sD could have really done with being a two parter, it glossed over a lot of stuff; the whole Martha visits the fishmen seemed nearly unnecessary plot wise, would have been nice to have it fleshed out a bit. I thought the "They only landed a week ago" twist at the end was genius, but would have had more impact if we'd got to know the fish men a bit better. Whilst as I said before, the Sontaran episodes seemed to struggle to fill the double slot a little bit.

I did like the progression though. Sontarans was very Pertwee in style, whilst they moved up a Doctor for TD'sD, which was very T.Bakeresque. With the warring factions and sci-fi bases under a wasteland.

I couldn't help but look at some finale 3-ep spoilers over the week. Managed to close the window before I read too much. Although if half of what I think was implied is true then it's going to be a bit over the top. Hopefully in a good way.

Next weeks seems like a bit of a filler episode. Based around a historical character, very much in the style of the previous Shakespeare, Dickens or Queen Victoria efforts. Should be solid enough, the Shakespeare one was fairly enjoyable and Eve Myles put a much better performance in The Unquiet Dead than she's ever managed in Torchwood.

I'd like to see the Ogrons back.

I've been a bit slow here, I've just realised that Moffat's the same chap that wrote Press Gang, which was fantastic. Have the entire series on DVD.

As for this series of the Doctor, for some reason I feel slightly underwhelmed by the episodes so far, but as you say hopefully the Moffat's episodes soon will be good.

Just watched yesterdays with a cup of tea. I really enjoyed it. Happy times.

More plot holes than an abandoned, mole ridden allotment. Definitely required a bit of switching off. Still good fun though. Why were all the servant types so beneath suspicion?

Healthy dose of in-jokes as well, good fun trying keep count of how many Christie book titles they could squeeze into a script

Also wrote the rather excellent "Coupling" which, despite its "British version of Friends" press tag was very good, 4th series aside.

Russell T Davis said Moffat's scripts are the only ones he doesn't touch. Which explains why his episodes work better than the normal average affair.

Yesterdays episode was dross.

the giant wasp was well scary tho!

No it wasn't.

Wahoo RTD is stepping down as head writer to be replaced by Moffatt from next season.

I saw he was stepping down, didn't realise he was getting replaced by Moffatt. That's the best news in ages.

Here ya go, Moffatt overload.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/latest/080520_news_01

Well that was only..... fucking ace.

I have no fucking idea what's going on though. Lot's of build up for what better be a brilliant conclusion next week.

I don't trust that River Song bird. I think she's a dalek or something. Oh well wait and see. Booo a whole week.

Easily best episode of this series, reminded me a bit of Blink, was it the same scriptwriter? My daughters just going to bed jumping at every shadow!

Yeah. Same dude who did Blink, The girl in the Fireplace and the kids in gas masks two parter in the first series. He's taking over from Russel T Gayvis in 2010. Happy times.

Oh yeah it says that a few posts up.

OOh i cant wait to get home and watch this!

I can't wait to watch it again  :D

That was great...got to wait a whole week now though  :evil:

It was exactly how a two-parter should be. Set up loads of questions (maybe a few too many) and left you on an awesome cliff hanger. Relegated the Sontaran(can't be arsed to check spelling) effort a couple of divisions, in comparison that just felt like they'd split an episode in two for the sake of it.

I actually shouted at the screen when it ended as the cliffhanger was so annoying! Exactly how it should be I suppose!

Just started watching it again. Here be spoilers if you haven't watched it yet......















I've put them in white so higlight them if you want to read (I'm not sure the background is white on the subsliver theme, but it was worth a try). Definitely worth watching yourself if you haven't yet. It'll be on iplayer all week.

One thing I'm pretty certain is that the saving people is to do with the giant hard disk at the core or whatever. The library, possibly through the little girl in a sort of reverse matrix style thing, saved the people before they got eaten by the shadows. Neat.

I'd guess that the River Song bird would be the Doctors Daughter from the other episode, but that doesn't make sense because then she'd know the young doctor and donna. Unless it's explained with a big time fuck / recolliding of separate dimensions (the one with Rose in) sort of thing. Maybe the Donna we see isn't the proper Donna Noble at all. Maybe she's supposed to be dead or something.

I'll be disappointed if there isn't something tied in with the biographies in the library being wrong or different from what we've seen. Maybe linked in with E.R. birds Tardis covered diary thing.

I'm only about 5 mins in so I should probably watch some more. Definitely got to watch the Dr. Moon bit with the kid a bit more closely. He seemed like an ace mysterious character. Suddenly telling the poor kid that all her nightmares were real, cruel but ace.
Here be the end of the highlighted stuff.

I'll just keep this one less spoilery....

Check out the symbol on the security camera when the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver on it near the start. Then a few seconds later check out the rug on the floor with the little girl. Nice detail.

[spoiler again (highlight text)]
Just before the Archaeology crew turn up, the node face statue thing start saying "Reminder: Library has been breached, the others are coming". The "Reminder" bit hints that they've been here for some time. Maybe I'm reading into it a bit much, but maybe they've been here a while and River Song's got hold of some sort of Diary of the doctor's.

Probably a bit out there
[/spoiler]

awww I wanna look at the Spoilers but then I dont,so I wont...or will I :P

There only spoilers if you haven't seen it yet. I don't know anything special about next week. Unfortunately.

That symbol thing I said appears a few times.

But I havent seen it yet,im saving it for Breakfast time :mrgreen:

fair enough. don't highlight them then.

Just spotted the crazy symbol again.

[spoilers]
I think that the little girl is the conciousness of the library's computers. It's created a little world for its self over the century and gone a little bit mad / forgotten what it is, but  has still retained its connection with what's going down in the actual physicall library. If that makes sense.
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like thr who on a t=ou r of blackpool [leasue beach

Some interesting thoughts Ben. I find it really intriguing as there's so much developing in the plot and so many questions to be answered

[potential spoilers]
Who is the black doctor guy and how does he know about the library?
Who is the river song bird? Is she a time traveller? Or has she acquired some knowledge and is tricking the doctor into a trap? But then what's all that with the screwdriver?!
What happened to Donna?
What is the way out of the library? How is the little girl connected to it?
[/potential spoilers]

So much to be answered!!!

Well then, nobody updates this thread. The second part of the library effort was brilliant, even if you take into account the silly bits; the doctor having a trapdoor exit was made up for by the rest of another awesome episode.



I still haven't watched the recent Saturday's effort, but I've heard it's ace. I'm hoping the above, from last week, is some awesome foreshadowing to a loss of ideals from The Doctor.

We'll have to wait and see, but then we've already had the Billie Piper trailers, about the spreading darkness. It's not a huge leap to make.
Some days are special.

Saturday's episode was up there with one the best of the series imho.

Ok it was a bit slow to start with and set wasn't entirely convincing - you never quite got the impression they were not in a set in a warehouse somewhere, but when the episode got going, it was fantastic psychological stuff - it all went rather 'Lord of Flies' on us.

It was a return to old skool Dr Who. No flash CGI to impress the kids, a small cast, no location shooting, four sets at the most. (was it a Russell T script, because looking at it written down like that it sounds like a producers "oh shit we're a bit overbudget on the series so far" script). Anyway a decent script and good performances and you've still got one of the most atmospheric episodes of this series.

And the Rose screaming shots together with the complete lack of closure at the end of the ep build the tension nicely as the series nears its finale.

That Davies bloke knows what he's doing

Personally I thought that it was just okay. But the characters were a bit 'back of a fag packet' to sustain it. Their 'journeys' were to be expected from the straight from the beginning. Apart from one and her actions weren't explained at all - she just went deux ex machina on us.

And it had no twist. The Moffat ones always have a twist. Oh god I'm sound like a Moffat fanboy.

Agree on the budgetary thing though- and the open end.

Madness.

They are going to suffer from some severe character overload in the final two episode form the looks of things. I don't really care though.

Oh yeah and that was brilliant again.

That's 4 good episodes in a row.

Last time we had that was Human Nature, it's conclusion, Blink and Utopia I believe. Although I might have fucked up the order.

Oh and Britain fascist state in Science Fiction, becoming a bit of a running theme. We need to be a bit careful.

I was a bit bored by tonights.

Tonight's was really just an extended prologue/setup for the ultimate end of the universe ass-bustingest end of the series. The kids loved the beetle and Joe was well chuffed when he spotted the Judoon in the montage previewy thing at the end

I loved all the what if stuff, even if it was a bit silly.

I think I'm a bit easily excitable by Doctor Who.

i thought it was great, although it did seem a bit like the preamble to a big finale - which is exactly what it was, i suppose.

what the hell happened to rose's voice? it sounded like she was talking with a gum shield in whilst chewing on a wasp.

Well, the bees all went missing earlier in the series didn't they?

They mentioned the missing bees again in this one didn't they?

The last two parter looks a bit like a RTD reunion party. I'm sure it'll be terrible, but I'll probably like it anyway.

Saying that, the midnight jobby last week was good, although a little stretched over the time, would have fit into 30mins perfectly.

Oh and onto next week, I do hope the make the opening credits have a stupid amount of spinny names coming through the time vortex as the music comes through. Something about the thought of that makes me smile with glee.

David Tennent
Catharine Tate
Freema Agyeman
Billie Piper
John Barrowman
..have definitely had them previously.

Might as well chuck in...
Noel Clarke
Elisabeth Sladen

and possibly...
Eve Myles
Gareth David-Lloyd
... presuming they appears (can't remember if I saw them in the next week bits).

I suppose they might not all appear in both the first or second, but still, I want my super long opening credits!!

And the redone opening music is one of the best things about new doctor who. It's awesomely epic, especially since the most recent christmas special. If I'm watching an episode on my computer I often rewind and listen to the opening credits a few times.  :D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3hkrIqcZIC8

Yeah but they're wrong. I want more.

Although it's nice to see I'm not the only one thinking along these lines.

rubbish i thought far to draw out and a dotor who with out the doctor is shit! although I am looking forward to next weeks!

Blink didn't feature him much, and that's been the best one of all.

Yes but will 'Bobby' Davros get his name on the big spinning credits?

What's all this gubbins about bees?

Are they the new daleks or is it just a reference to real world events with the stripey fellas on the decline?

it's FORESHADOWING

Or is it a classic...

http://www.letsgetitright.org/blog/red%20herring.gif

Or just a bad reference to Piper's classic....

Honey to the Bee.  I've been thinking about her sugar lips indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpC9ZygMw7c

I thought it was some sort of Hiker's rip-off with the old Dolphins but the nerd community seem to think Davros is farming the fellas.

fuck knows. rtd loves his foreshadowing though, so all the bee references will mean something. remember all the bad wolf stuff in series 1?

yup. like the big bomb in 'the empty child' with it written it german on it. thats the first doctor who episode i watched, and i've seen about 3 since :P i feel i should be into it, i dont know why i'm not tho :S

Who's it going to be then? My moneys on John Sim.

That was a bit unexpected.

Also did anybody notice the druming when Donna was sat down in the Shadow Proclamation place? She's blatantly a disguised timelord. The Doctor's Daughter or The Master or someone.

Ah thats why it's been hinted she's going to die, she'll regenerate also.

I think everyone will die, but they'll have a big cop out about everything being a second out of time so it will all go back to normal. Something really lame like the end of last series.

shocks me that we haven't heard about a new doctor in the press and I thought he'd signed up til 2010 anyway........therefore there must be some twist that keeps tennant in the role probably related to Earth being within a time rift or summat.

If there is a new Doctor though fair play they've managed to keep a good secret.

Yeah I'm impressed if there really is a new Doctor. That's madness.

Just got to wait 7 days now I guess.............oh the suspense

i reckon it'll be the same actor/doctor, different personality.

that's sort of what i hope anyway.

Didn't see the regeneration coming at all!

I'm concur with FB that they'll somehow hit the magic reset button, which will be shit, but I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.

Interesting theory on the 'hidden timelord' Ben. Didn't the doctor do that himself in that episode with Sally Sparrow? Boy is my memory shot.

im sure youre right with that one second out of time thing ... but wasnt it a great episode all the same .. FANTASTIC!

nah that's blink with sally sparrow. He did it when he became a teacher at that public school to hide from some aliens (human nature and family of something). Then the master was doing the same as the old dude in Utopia.

Just got done watching it again. There were some ridiculously terrible bits. The magic mobile phones just didn't make any fucking sense what so ever, making everybody on the Earth ring him? WTF????

Then there was The Doctor and Rose running towards each other, cheesy as fuck. I thought that Sarah Jane was going to mow down Rose in her car or something. That would have been awesome. It was a bit clear something was going to happen, although what did still took me by surprise, even when watching it again.

Finally the silly TO BE CONTINUED letters at the end. It's not a fucking cartoon. They just looked silly.

Oh and wouldn't it have been much cooler if it was Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart instead of the silly Harriet Jones. Was also a bit odd how she'd gone from failed Prime Minister to expert hax0r

I still enjoyed it though, even with all it's silliness. It did make you realise how uncharismatic the Torchwood bird is. She'd still get one though. Has she put on a bit of weight?

well  I thought it was completely bloody ace

Don't get me wrong yeovil. So did I.  :D

It's speculation time. They zoomed into his spare hand again, they've done that on a few episodes. Might tie up with whatever regeneration reset technique they end up doing (unless it really has been the best kept secret ever). I'm guessing that the one second ahead thing will fuck up his regeneration. The mad dalek called him "the threefold man".  Maybe he'll split into three or something.

Most faithful companion. Surely they've got to kill Rose? Although I think something is going to happen to Donna. Killing Martha would be a bit of anti-climax because she's pretty annoying, and I wouldn't really care.

Hmmm.. more thought needed.

The fact that it's so tough to guess the next move is part of the fun, regardless od any stringy cheese being involved.  As always, the thought of someone else coming and being the Doctor fills me with dread, probably as a result of the 80's/90's period where the next Doctor was always crap.  There's clearly something with Donna and Rose that;s got to happen and I was sure Tenant was in for the specials next year, so if he is a gonner that's one of the best kept TV secrets ever.

Was a tad dissapointed that the bees reference wasn't more interesting.

FORESHADOWING!!!!!!!!

the hand must have somethign to do with the regeneration i reckon.

New trailer.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TQLRBqMJD-w

They've done a good job resurrecting Davros. He's still completely fucking mental.

that was ACE.

as i said before, not a regular viewer, but my sister and bro-in-law were so adamant that i watched it, they sat there and explained the references i didnt understand.

(i have been reading stuff about doctor who recently, my nephews have started to watch certain episodes from the first series, so i kinda had to to understand what they were saying :P)

the hand has gotta come into the regeneration thing, they've been filming the crimbo special at gloucester cathedral and tennants been there, unless its all a massive ruse and we've all been fooled!

they cant kill rose off, she's lovely  :oops:

Yeah, if they really kill off Tennent then it's got to be the greatest secret ever. It is starting to get towards the end of his natural time as the doctor I think. I've liked him, but I'm ready for a change. I'm pretty sure he'll get killed off next year.

I don't think Donna is about next year, so that puts the odds on her being the casualty, especially with all the hints that she isn't just a normal companion. It'll be her with a twist m'thinks.

I'm worried about next week, any sort of big reset switch is going to piss me right off. It's clearly the Autberg-Howizer thingy or whatever it's called that unit gave martha. That thing is so clearly going to = giant reset button.

If anyone wants to watch a bit of torchwood, but get so fed up about how shit most the episodes are, there is one pretty ace one. S1E6 Countrycide. Apart from that Torchwood is more miss than hit, although it still has it's moments. The first and last episodes of the most recent series were a bit better thanks to James Marsters, which is also a bit annoying as it shows off that Torchwood actually does have a fair bit of Buffy/X-files style potential.

Im not Tennants biggest fan .. but I realised on Saturday maybe I liked him a bit more than I thought .. dont want him to leave .. Id like at least another series from Tennant after the specials and that would take him to 2010/11 .. that would be good for continuity.

How was only one episode of K-9 and Company ever made? It's got the greatest intro ever.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHoyyp7m2E

EXTERMENIEREN!

  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:   not very PC was it!

that was pretty cool. infact, very cool. tied up alot of loose ends! i wouldve liked a bit more play on the regeneration thing tho, but i guess you can only squidge so much into a short amount of time.

Oh man!

Do I want spoilers?

No I'll wait..........

I tried to lip read what "he " said to Rose, but only managed to make "the chuffer" No wonder she jumped him.

He probably said "Why have you looked so bored for the last three episodes"

and "why are you speaking like a bulldog chewing on a wasp?"

best series finale evarrrrrrr.

Really got back into it this series and agree that last nights episode was brilliant.

just bought series 1-3 on dvd  :oops:

pure genius! :mrgreen:

There's a Torchwood radio play on Radio 4 at 2.15pm on Wednesday. Sort of marking the Large Hadron Collider thingy getting turned on I think. Torchwood tends to be a bit shit but as I've managed to stick with it so far I figured I'd probably give it a listen.

It'll be on the BBC Radio iPlayer thingy after it's aired I believe. 

I'm halfway through watching The Tomb of the Cybermen. I think Patrick Troughton is my new favourite Doctor. He's fucking ace.

His companion Victoria isn't bad on the eyes.

I've still got an episode left but I highly recommend The Tomb of the Cybermen to anybody who fancies a bit of old Who. It's really good.

I watched a Pertwee effort this morning, the first one with The Master, Terror of the Autons. Tomb of the Cybermen, despite being a fair bit older, actually feels much more modern. Even though the Cybermen and special effects are a bit ropey, the whole thing holds together much better. The characters are stronger, there's a good cast of non-companion people about who are good or evil for interesting reasons, not just for the sake of a villian/hero.

PT himself is ace too. I guess he must have influenced Tennent a bit because their are similarities. He's got the air of intelligence about him, but is less arrogant then DT. He seems willing to be a bit more manipulative and play the coward a bit. Yet he's still shows an affection for his companions, but just not in the super gay modern pretend love interest way.

Anyhoo. I'm not sure anybody really cares, but I have nowhere else to rant about Doctor Who so you lot have to put up with it you cunts.

Tom Baker still rules. Patrick Troughton was ace thuogh. The Master is a real good baddy.

Baker is ace and is obviously who a lot of people think of when Doctor Who is mentioned. Genesis of the Daleks is one of the best (maybe the best) Doctor Who serials, it gets a lot of hype, but it really is awesome. I think one of the problems with T.Baker is that he did it for too long, from what I've seen (and I haven't watched nearly as much as I'd like to get around too), towards the end of his run it goes a bit stale. Still, I suppose the length of his run as the Doctor is why he's considered by many as the definitive incarnation.

I'm hoping that the rumours are true and we see more of Paul McGann's doctor in one of the specials. New Who has left a lot open with what happened between him and the Eccleston, whilst hinting at some awesome sounding timewar stuff. The TV Movie wasn't great, but I've always thought that McGann would have been a good doctor given a proper series. Some sort of flashback episode would be fucking ace.

Don't rate McCan and the TV movie was excruciatingly so bad that I was surprised the series was brought back. From the earlier stuff Dr Who and the Sea Devils is rather excellent. I can remember it first time around. The Genesis if the Darleks from memory was excellent.

He's done quite a few radio plays as the 8th doctor, although I've never managed to catch one all the way through or gotten round to downloading them. They're supposed to be quite good. I agree that the telly movie is pretty horendous, although it's been a long time since I've seen it. Might have to watch it again.

I actually change my mind on whether it would be ace to see what happened between the 8th and 9th doctor. They reference it occasionally in the new stuff and make it sound awesome. Maybe it should be left as that, a reference two massive galactic super powers falling in flames, the doctor being forced to sacrafice his own race too destroy the threat of the daleks, but you never actually see it. I'm not sure, the more they come up with excuses to bring the daleks back in the new episodes the more it cheapens it. I think I'd quite like to see it, but then if they didn't do it well I'd be pissed off.

The McCan radio plays are rubbish,well the ones ive listen to are.To twee and 1940's esqe for my tastes.

The bits I've heard are ace. But yeah, I've never made the effort to listen to them properly. I don't remember them being twee or 1940's at all though.

I might be immune to the tweeness, I quite often time any washing up/stuff round the kitchen I've got to do, so I can listen to the repeat of The Archers and The Afternoon Play on Radio 4.

I like the radio series. It's not twee at all.

Oh and one thing that I've never understood since the Davies re-invention of the series.

How is The Dr the last Timelord exactly? How does he not meet any Timelords anymore? I know they all died out in the Timewar with the Daleks but as a race of timetravellers with access to Tardis's you'd think the odd one or two from the past would pop-up now and again.

Has this ever been adequately explained? Was the climax of the timewar some kind of cataclysm that wiped the race entirely from the timeline or what?

Ben, you're the geek you must know.

I think it's supposed to be this, but it's always a bit vague.

Threadomancy, new assistant (no, not replacing Budgie)

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Yes please.

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she's a fitty! i do love a bit of ginge.

That is how they explained it, but The Master escaped as well and there are bound to be others - if they want there to be. There was a rumour that Patrick Stewart will be appearing at some point, most likely as a Time Lord of some sort.

Hi.

;) well hello there!

Get lost you gayer.

Costumes!
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Big relief that they aren't emoing up the doctor.

I want to do nasty things to the new companion.

Damn, I was hoping for a 'peter parker when he's venom' look, with eye liner and a funky strut... ;)

New Tardis design looks a bit mental. Look forward to seeing the inside.

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Looks a bit big

Big next series spoiler in this pic.
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Get to the back of the queue Ben.

Very erm...distinctly wooden, that Tardis.

It looks like a 3cm model with an actor superimposed in front of it on photoshop.

It looks quite big.

Apparently the Doctor will make a few appearances towards the end of the new series (3) of the Sarah Jane Adventures later this year. Might be worth catching up on (I've been planning to for ages), the few I've watched have actually been quite good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA