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No your not you useless cunt, you'll be fucking off in the summer anyway me thinks.

2 decent performances in 10 aint good enough im affraid.

He doesn't give a toss about Swindon Town.
Hope he goes so we can get a GOOD right winger.

If he played as well as he talks we'd be a lot better off

Agreed.

He's just another one of Sturrocks haggis munching cock suckers!  :wink:

Hopefully Sturrock will sign him for Plymouth, after all the rave reviews from the Dongs fans this is one player who has been a big let down since joining us....he talks a good game though.

he played well last saturday imo.

But as others point out, he's far more miss than hit.

I think if he had some decent competition he'd play better. If we want a strong squad next year, getting another right winger in and keeping him would be a good idea.

sounds like some of the vulnerable players trying to suck up to malpas hopeing not to get the elbow in the summer.

JP is shit and not good enough for a promotion chasing team.

a player clearly playing without confidence.

played much better under Sturrock and is a Sturrock boy, but still think he's good enough and hope he regains some form.

Some of the shit he gets isnt deserved

Someone tell me, who would you play in the right wing instead?

That's not the point though really-I dont think anyone's saying we've got better players(although I'd pick a fit Roberts every time} just saying he's not really good enough on what he's shown us so far.To be fair though,I think Malpas played him in the centre last night-big error in my opinion.

He was crap under Sturrock imo.

It's not a case of people wanting him dropped at this moment in time DV, they want someone better brought in, which I think is fair enough.

Thing is, if for whatever reason we could get JPM playing like he can, we wouldnt need a another winger (well we would, but JPM is good enough)

Its not a case of he's shit and not good enough, its a case of his current form is shit and not good enough.

He's got more than enough in his locker, its just getting him to play to his potential.

Commingues?

What do you suggest, he's had a large proportion of the season to do this, under 3 different managers.

I want a right winger in who can run with the ball comfortably and put in a tackle. At least if both players are off form they can offer something different to each other.

I disagree.  Constant underperforming deserves stick.  Not like he hasn't had enough chances to sort himself out.

Agree. He's had some decent perfromances but they have been few and far between. His comments before the Leeds game didn't do him many favours with the fans either.

The other players have had the same amount of time and most have shown some improvement, MacNamee, Commingues, even Paynter.  Don't see why McGovern is any different.

McGoverns had good games though, it was only last week he had a good game against Oldham!

He was good against Carlisle and excellent at home to Forest.

Good games too few and far between but he's had some games....

How many times?!!
If you take Commingues out of that defence our whole system falls apart! Yes he is perfectly capable of playing wide right but defensively it doesn't suit the rest of the team.

I seem to remember when he signed, he had a good start for us.  The Franchise fans (phlegm-laden spit) rated him and most Town fans throught we had ourselves a winner.

Remember Zaboub when he first signed?  Match winner.  Yes he blew hot & cold, but his early period in a Swindon shirt was a good one.

We used to joke that Swindon players became shit when they moved on to other clubs...Summerbee, Maskell, Horlock and (more recently) Parkin to name a few.  But now it's the reverse.  Players sign for us and they BECOME shit.

Ifil anyone?  You don't get a nickname like 'The Beast' unless you're worth it.  He was fantastic for us years ago.  Cureton has scored freely for just about every other club he's played for (and there have been a few) apart from us.

STFC.  Sign for us, and you'll be half the player you were by the end of the season.  And this isn't a Malpas bashing post.  It's been happening for a while.  Worrying.

I love us fickle town fans, each week its a different player, were safe enough who gives a shit

 Interesting points, but I'd take exception with a few.  Ifil for example has had spells where he's been very good, then spells where he's been very bad.  Early season he was VG now he's VB.

 When Cureton pitched up he hadn't scored a league goal for a year...form he carried on with us....you could say good management by Iffy sending on loan to get some confidence, which he achieved....when he came back he did score some goals.

  I take your general point though and put it down to the chronic instability at the club, which in part is why its important that Malpas gets some time to try and establish some continuity and stabilty.

Hear, hear.

Spot on old pal.

Did Reg just use some text speak?  :o

Yup and your one of them.

i think summerbee and horlock would argue they did the opposite of becoming shit after leaving here.parkin was scoring in the championship then got injured.

I remember when we signed Tony Thorpe,thinking "thank fuck-he always scores against us"

Back to the point - McGovern. I've seen him three times now, and he's failed to impress me on each occasion. I know there is a good player in there, but somehow the management or the player himself have yet to exploit it to its full potential.

I watched him quite closely second half against Oldham, and whilst he didn't have a bad game per se, I still felt he was playing within himself. With the right game plan, him and Commingues on the RHS could be equally effective as McNamee + decent LB on the LHS next season.

Stick with him, but he needs to raise him game to warrant auto selection (problem is right now, he has little competition for a place with Roberts injured).

   Not so much text speak more just being lazy....having been on the lash for the two previous nights, I feel entitled to a lack of rigour.

Call me fickle if you want I couldnt give a shit. Here we go.

McGovern is the sort of player I have really wanted to like all season. We paid money for him, he's done well at other clubs. He's a Glaswegian skin head, and usually players from that sort of back ground dont give you any psycological non sense. However his performances are so erratic. Its nothing to do with Sturrock. He did have some really excellent games under Sturrock, but he had some stinkers as well. Some games he hasnt delivered a single decent ball. He then has the cheak to blame every other player for not getting on the end of them (watch him, everytime he does a bad ball its moan at the teammates time).

We do need players who achieve a consistant competant level of performance and McGovern is so erratic its untrue. I dont think we will get back what we paid but any offers should be considered.

I am gutted to write that because almost all our great home performances this season (and there have been a few) have been 4-4-2 with McGovern on the right. When he's good he is utterly devastating. But why is he so erratic? Sometimes you have to cut your losses.

One last thing. I spoke to Peacock and he really doesnt like Andy Cryer. He said he twists things to suit his own story and prints things that should have been off the record, and it might be Cryer causing trouble. But the amount of BULLSHIT written in player interviews in the last few months has been prolific. You cant mug the fans off. A lot of us do actually watch games (funnily enough) and we can see who is taking responsibility and who is lipsinking what we want to hear and not doing anything about it. Some of my favourite players as well. Next season Dont talk about it, just do it please.

  I always thought JP was the son of John McGovern former Derby and Forest player.

  I watched Forest a few times in their heyday and McGovern used to take fearful stick. He was what I'd call a stroller,  had no pace and never did anything too noticeable.

  I recall being at teh game when Forest got the title presented in 78.  It ended 0-0 with Brum and teh crowd slaughtered McGovern...the following year he raised the European Cup.   Clough, of course, understood the game, which contrary to their opinion most fans don't.

 Having a father who was a player does give you a head start....so I'm not so sure that JP really has the Govan attitude....could be wrong mind.

if the adver is dreaming up stuff then the players should refuse interviews.
they are not obligated to are they?

Well said!

Also, why do people think that Comminges would be any good at right wing?

He's a decent right back for us, where he has loads of time on the ball and can over-lap, but that doesn't mean he'd be a good right winger.

The fact that he's a winger by trade might have something to do with it.

JPM really winds me up, I think he's been shit all season and my minor annoyance turned to proper disgust with his comments about Leeds a few months back. The sooner he fucks off the better.

Christian Roberts is a striker by trade.

Shall I go on?

I know he was on Celtic's books. Thats it.

 Martin O'Neil played in the same Forest side as John McGovern.

i read the damned united and Mcgovern really was his main man- didnt he even sign him for leeds? is he really JPM's dad?

Clough did sign John McGovern for Leeds....I'm not sure why I think JP is his son, maybe I dreamt it, it does happen.

  One thing is for sure he's not the son of Mick McGovern.....probably not a lot  here who remember Mick, but he was shite...a Les Allen signing.

Tried to search for his fathership, failed, but his website was "interesting" , and might account for a few things!  www.bebo.com/biglooby7

JPM is "that" McGovern's son, which is why he got through the ranks at Celtic according to people up north.  A little like Lampard at West Ham, if it wasnt for Frank L Sr, Jr would have been shown the door at West Ham at an early age.

Not the greatest source, but from a MK site

"Jon-Paul McGovern will probably fill a place in the starting line-up, as his five yellow cards show his tigerish attitude that Martin Allen likes.  Similar in build to his Dad John McGovern (of Derby and Forest in the 1970s), he hasn't quite got the same style"

Strangely that is the bit of his game that is missing for us. He has vision and ability, doesn't seem to have the physical attributes needed to run up and down the pitch, coupled with a total lack of 'fight'. Frustrating.

Hope its a confidence/fitness thing that sorts itself out over pre-season.

So maybe I didn't dream it  :).

If you don’t like someone why would you talk off the record to them :?

The pic i posted a coupe of months or so back is on there, the bloke that is also a cheerleader is he also one of our players?