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aaaaaaaaaaaaanyone else think the fuzz were a bit OTT in defending some fire?

i don't claim to know all the ins and outs of the tibetan issue, however i can for sure spot a policeman jumping from a bicycle onto a protester back.

Terrible PR for the Chinky games, why would anyone want to see some second rate celebs/sportsmen running with a giant lighter, being surrounded by a dozen chinks in 1980's shell suits, and then them being surrounded by some MET 20 or so coppers, in the freezing cold.

The fire extinguisher idea was class, as was the fella who tried to cop a feel of Konnie Huq but got a handful of the flame instead.

Roll on the french protest attempts.

I was talking last night  to a fit youngish bird (mid 20's ) who went on this demo.   I was quite impressed as members of this generation  IMO seem to have no interest in politics....she explained to me her concern about China's human rights record.  I did point out that China's record in this department had been somewhat lacking for the last 2000 years, but not wanting to appear a Sino-apologist, I dropped the history lecture.

 She was impressed though with my knowledge of the poetry and music of Leonard Cohen  8)

Sport has nothing at all to do with politics - to suggest athletes boycott the games is a joke

Agree. A small bunch of fuds tried to disrupt the Scotland v Israel u21 game a few years ago on the basis that "the palyers would have had to have done national service in the israeli army" :roll:

Twats!


Keep politics out of sport! :evil:

  I'd imagine you're familiar with the works of Leni Riefenstahl....see Triumph of the Will and Olympia.

This pissed me off if they really give a fuck then go over to China and protest and stop ruining peoples bus ride .

The clips on the telly this morning reminded me of Monty Python...

"Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"

China's record of human rights issues has been dreadful for ages, not just since the latest wave of media coverage from Tibet. Surely it would have made more sense to protest BEFORE they agreed to give the games to Beijing, rather than wait for them to start building stadia etc?!

The thing with Konnie Huq was hilarious!!

I mean what on earth has she got to do with sport anyway? get any old random to run round with the flame

 PC innit.

really??

I read an interview with her recently and she was going on about how attractive she thinks she is and how she thinks Tony Blair fancied her and stuff

get over yourself women

  :shock: a woman who thinks she's the business and that blokes fancy her. Whatever next?

I'm all for a bit of protesting and stuff, but leave Konnie Huq alone.

What would Dara O'Briein say?

fucking well done. more protests the better, all those who say politics and sport shouldnt mix should realise that they have the freedom to say that without spending 13 years in a labour camp for having a different opinion.

I get pissed off with all this shit . Those fuckers yesterday were the fuckers who were protesting a few years ago that we should leave Iraq and Afghanistan as its nothing to do with us but now its something they care about they want the country to help.

Fuck em

Eh? I don't think anybody is claiming we should go to war with China. That would be mental and we'd lose.

I see the French police didn't hold back either, loads of blood.

Did you not see that woman screaming at Brown ? They all want us to intervene how do you suppose they want us to do that as im sure a nice little chat wont work .

Oops, forgot about this thread.

There's loads of ways you can put diplomatic pressure on other countries to do stuff/ not do stuff/ change stuff. It's a system that works throughout modern international relations. Nations don't threaten war every time they disagree with each other.

There might be a few protesting nutters who want military action, but you shouldn't paint a group with the views of their extremists. Protesting alone raises the profile of the China human rights record / Tibet Situation. In a democracy raising awareness can (should) be an important thing. You don't necessarily need to be advocating the extremes.

Would be class if there was a mass boycott of the games.  Perhaps we could win a few more bronzes on the track and field then!

anyone else a bit pissed of that the frogs put the flame out and we didn't.on the protest stakes franch 1 - Engalnd nil!

i was actully giving serious thought to going to this but had other commintets which i couldn't get out of. I have a tibetan client and he's been filling me in on the subject which is turelly shit.

It's true the French know how to protest properly. When they go on strike there's barricades and stuff on fire and stuff and they actually win stuff every now and again.

Over here four old blokes stand around a brazier for a couple of hours and then piss off home.

What I hadn't realised is that this was the first year that this international relay bollocks has gone on. Usually the torch is taken straight from the last games venue to the new one.

What fucking bright spark thought "Oh China that's an uncontroversial choice of host, I'm sure we could take an element of the opening ceremony for this games to a variety of locations around the world without it provoking too much trouble".

Dicks!

I don't get why the Dalai Lama doesn't use his super powers to free tibet.

He isnt that type of Llama! You need Tony the wonder Llama!
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Ime more worried about the fact that when the chinese olympics is finished we will want another one half hour later!