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Right these are my observations they are not a rant before Dv takes the morale highground and tells me im over reacting.

I think we need to judgeMalpas on what he does in the summer if im honest BUT I seriously can see why they have not taken to him some of his decisions are baffling  at the least.

Jamie Vincent is simply not good enough at fault for the goal (again) distribution awful offers nothing going forward and the nail in the coffin was when he got beat over 30 yards to the ball by Alan Thompson .

Craig Easton has been Imo our best central midfielder this season so please stop playing him on the right .

When we are drawing away Malpas changes the attack yet when we are losing at home he brings on mcgovern and that’s it?

Phil Smith is not better than Brezovan ,

And finally our best attacking player and best crosser seems to be Comminges so lets try him on the wing for fuck sake

Apart from that keep up the good work Maurice


Finally I thought Paynter was superb on Saturday worked his bollocks off and fair play to him

I loved it at one stage of the match Miguel had just run one length of the pitch, then chased the ball down in by Leed's penalty area, then Leeds broke and attacked us, so Miguel sprinted another length of the pitch, by which stage he was quite clearly knackered (only for a min or so).  He was class at the weekend.

Paynter and Comminges have both been superb in recent weeks IMO. Only real positive coming out.

Chrissie Allen is a positive imo.

Re: Paynter - I dont go to as many games as most who post on here, what I've seen of Paynter is he is not the answer to stop this goal drought, he will never score you more than 10 league goals a season.

I've seen players like the Paynters of this world for years, professional, know what they are doing, holds the ball up well, but never going to beat a defender with pace.

You can't say he is laying off goals for others either, he gets into positions to score but there it ends, he doesn't seem to have a strikers killer finish on.

Most games you come away and think well Paynter had a good game, but a striker should be all about putting the ball in the net first, quiet honestly I would prefer to have a striker who is lazy for 90% of the game, but give him one chance and in the net you go.

I stated before on a previous thread last month, at Swindon we do not have a forward who will put fear into any defence in this division, the way we play at the moment doesn't really help either, and they are quiet easily marked.

Cox I thought might be the exception because he has got that bit of pace, but Saturdays miss from one yard shows he is not the 20 goal striker we will need, and we haven't had a real target man since Parkin left.

10 goals a season from Paynter would suffice if he was playing alongside a 20 goal a season striker, unlike you Dell, I'm not judging Cox on that one miss.  Adebayor missed an easier header against Meeeeee-lan the other week, doesn't mean he's a gash player.

you say judge him in the summer .. but if we continue on this downward spiral we might be in League 2 next year!!

Re Paynter and Comminges I agree tho - they are really trying hard - but to be honest I always thought they did whenever they played

and Cox is a 20 a goal season striker - they all miss them sometimes

we will not go down.but we aint going up either

it really would be shocking if we did

No it would be foolish to do so Janaage.

He does need a goal, any goal, scrappy off his nose on Saturday when have been ok, I believe his record is 1 in 6 since his transfer from Reading.

Dont think you can give an example re Adebayor and Cox in the same sentence. I remember Ronaldo missing from five yards and skying it over the ball earlier this season, but those two score regularly in the top level of football.

Cox is the only forward I would keep for next season.

Dell boy I was giving paynter loads of shit a month ago, he looks a different player now. His touch has imporoved and he has upped his work rate. fair play to him.

If he keeps playing like he is now, then goals will come, particually as there were some really positive signs of him forming a good partnership with cox on saturday.

Eh?!

paynter was better than cox on saturday, easily!

That is my point about Paynter, he looks the part, does everything right, but he is or never will be a goalscoring striker.

I know Dell, the comparison to Adebayor was a crude one to make, but it got my point across.  Personally I have always thought Cox is a decent enough player, no SSP (his his prime) but I think he'll do alright for us, he (like many others) are just a bit low on confidence.

I'm gonna carry on looking on the positives, Allen, Comminges, Kanyuka, Easton.  The future's bright.

He has potential, the others have been playing around the clubs for years, they are decent players but not goal scoring machines and will never be so.

Corr has a pretty decent record, must be about 1 in 3, not bad for a striker

Every team needs some sort of water carrier type striker, someone to do the hard yards. Thats Paynter.

The only striker i'd get rid of is sturrock. He tries his best, but isn't good enough for this division.

A fit Corr could be the answer, but there is the problem, why was he off-loaded by Sheff Weds. How many games this season has he played? How many are we likely to get out of him before the end of the season.

Fair point. I wouldn't be so hasty in getting rid of him though

over-reaction thread III  :D

Dont see how the goal was Vincents fault....Peacock ducked under in....and it was Ifil who was marking Candle!!

Could be wrong mind, but thats how I remember it

Back post header thats enough for me... I dont see what he offers us

I think this thread has summed up one of our biggest problems, the fans expectations are way too high.

Why are they too fucking high? I expect jamie vincent to beat Thompson in a foot race i expect our best centre midfielder to playin the middle not on the wing i expect a player who is so right footed its unreal to not be playing on the left wing when we have two fit left wingers in the squad, and i also expect our manager when we are one down at home to use his 3rd substitution.Thats not high expectations thats reality tails

I think although Vincent let Kandol go, it was a stupid idea for him to be marking him... Aljofree/Ifil should have taken responsibility for the big lads and let Vincent do the covering

If someone a striker scores a header that is your centre half's problem surely? Not your fullback who was the smallest player in our side?!

If  a striker scores a header that is your centre half's problem surely? Not your fullback who was the smallest player in our side?!

I have heard rumours that left backs can cover aswell Dave .

No, that I agree with.

I just think in general, we are expecting too much from a side who are a midtable league one side, where we've been all season! On Saturday, Paynter battled for a ball, won it, beat a player and then played a decent (ish) ball over to the right hand side and was unlucky that it went out of play. This was met by cries of "YOU'RE USELESS PAYNTER" from some in the town end.

Same with Allen aswell, he'd played well, gave the ball away once and several fans around me shouted "Take him off he's crap". We expect too much from some players, they aren't gonna be perfect!

FWIW, I think next season Cox and Paynter starting together will do very well. I reckon they could manage 35 between them.

I rate Coxy as much as the next bloke but there's no way he'll get 32 goals next season  :P

Billy Paynter has had more shots on and off target than any of our other players.

I think Macca is pretty much spot on. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned with our recent form. I believe it is actually relegation form. However, every team that doesn't go up automatically will go through a bad spell. This is ours and as it has come after a good undefeated run, people are panicking.

Did anyone else spot this - For the whole of the second half Leeds played Beckford right on the left touch line with the Minge occasionally marking him - when he wasn't getting shouted at to get back in the middle with the other 18 players.  Now the Minge had a great game but is not going to win anything in the air against Beckford and would struggle to beat him for pace.    I kept waiting for this situation to be sorted out but it wasn't even when McGovern came on. Fortunately Leeds couldn't find one decent diagonal pass (much to Beckford's disgust) but it was a bloody good job they didn't.

FWIW my feeling is that the fans, having had to put up with shit for so long,  thought that the arrival of Fitton and his chosen new boss would herald a new beginning with something to get us excited.   The players wouldn't be able to use the excuse of not being paid, and backroom instability to justify lack of commitment.  

   For two or three weeks there was a bit of evidence of this feel good factor, but that was it and rapidly back to dross...or even absolute dross.

  I think fans find this particularly hard to accept....we've had a high, and now the comedown is a real cold turkey.

  We've got our Swindon back....same as the old Swindon....mediocre uncommited players, and crap cup exits without any fight.

I agree Reg. And for that reason in a strange kind of way i'm actually looking forward to tomorrow's game.

But at least we're not going bust!

Give it time, I think under the guidance of Fitton, Wray and co we will have a successful football club for our size. Things don't happen overnight!!

I only just noticed your avatar - that's ace  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Please never mention that game again. The (onfield) lowlight of the season by an absolute mile, made worse by the subsequent run of the Gas all the way to the quarter finals via a very favourable draw. I'd rather watch 10 Walsalls back-to-back than another Barnet.[/url]

  I'm thoroughly pissed off with limp cup exits to lower div sides...as you rightly point out Rovers have benefitted because of our ineptitude, and they are now in a position to repeat their last seasons late run for the PO's.

  When saying he wanted a manager with proven record, did Fitton approach Rovers about talking to Trollope? If not, why not?

Swansea were knocked out by a NON LEAGUE SIDE! Their manager must be worse than ours................................

 With regards to Swansea, of more significance is that Martinez' predecessor Jackett, had a history of failure with Watford, which he carried on with Swansea, despite a lot of advantages. and is now carrying on with Millwall.

 Malpas, like it or not has a history of failure with Motherwell.

It's true he had a rough time at Motherwell, time will show if he will be a failure here........................

9 games, imho, isn't enough time.

only cos u bum his dad any chance u get

I've only just noticed it myself. :D

I did wonder why flammableben dosnt get more stick on here for being an unemployable drain on society with little interest or knowledge in football. :face:

Here lies the answer I suppose

I vaguely remember Colins avatar this morning and put it down to having just woken-up (Really, I thought my eyes where playing tricks on me).

But then I noticed it again and decided that I am not seeing things but somebody is trying to sublimanally tell me something.

Still nowhere near as distracting as "Bob's Orange's" avatar though.

Why is Macca banned?  :?

Didn't he post something the other day along the lines of "I'm resigning my membership on Monday"...?

Seconded, why is Macca banned.

New thread on General discussion me thinks.

ben's knowledge of football would surprise you. he would be a drain on society if he could be bothered to sign on...

it's true, he has a wealth of random football knowledge - would surprise most on here, me included. He's only a drain on the maufacturer's of white ace.

I'm only messing about.  Although I wasn't last night.

But I'd had 2 bottles of wine then. :oops:  :sorry:

I think you're even now!!