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has he done anything good for us since he got here?

signed Cox which by the sound of it was down to Fitton. Signed McNamee who looked decent in 1 game, Moses has been poor, Kanyuka injured again and the reason QPR let him go.

He is 'rumoured' to have upset the dressing room, fell out with Zaaboub, played McGovern in the middle, Easton on the right and left, dropped Brez and played this shit 4-3.5-2.5 formation and got us knocked out the cup by barnet. When sturrock left we was looking like play off rather than relegation, Malpas certainly changed that

to be fair good result home to Forest, although how many times does a team score 2 own goals?

mystic arriba's prediction.
by this time next year he wont be here.and it wont be by his choice!

Oh goody! Yet another thread questioning MM's ability................

if u can state some good things he has brought with him mate post them

It's not his team.

Because of the timing of his arrival, the new players were taken on Byrnes recommendation, not MM's.

He may turn out to be shite, he may turn out good, but I'll give him a bit of time before I start bleating like a stuck record.

Why do people expect instant results?

why the fuck is he signing players on the say so of a bloke who has managed swindon youth team and a handful of professional games?

I agree with Hertha here.

that was also 1 of the negatives about hiring Malpas his lack of knowledge/contacts in english football

because we're turning into a club like newcastle or liverpool who think success is a divine right which should be an instant occurence.

although, i do think we've gone backwards a little since byrne was in charge...

Don't know, but then I don't know a lot about what goes on behind the scenes.

Can you answer my question now?

Why do people expect instant results?

im not expecting instant results, we have been very poor under Malpas i dont think anyone can disagree with that, walsall home, forest away no shots on goal, yesterday no goals.

im not saying sack him, he does deserve time to do things his way, just at the moment im not impressed with what has happened so far.

Obviously id love him to turn us round and be a sucess.

Forest at home was ok, so was Cheltenham and I thought we were unlucky yesterday.

We're going to have inconsistent results, given our inconsistent team, new manager (Again) new players, etc, etc.

I think we should just try and get as high as we can, forget the play-offs and hopefully build in the summer for a genuine push for promotion.

If we can do it under Malpas, great, if we can't I'm sure Fitton will recognise the fact and take appropriate action..............

He's only been here for just over a month. Fucking hell, get a grip

agreed MWAH xx

I think the 80% bollocks has gone into overload tonight. Give the bloke a fucking chance, he's only just dipped his sporran in the loch.

Or something.

Thanks :D (What does MWAH mean?)

Must Wank A Horse?

I think we were doing much better under Bryne than we are under Malpas, still he wouldn't of got the job i don't think.

Malpas just doesn't seem like a manager, an assistant at best i think.

I thought we were pretty shit when Sturrock left tbh. We were on a really bad run of form and I think we were in the same position we are now, only maybe 1 or 2 places higher. Not as great as everyone seems to think it was.

I think McNamee has been promising. He's only played a handfull of games for us so maybe we will never see him find form, but maybe we will. His fitness was improving with every game so I think he's a hard worker. Kanyuka is a backup player and the only reason he's gone to league one is because of his injury prone-ness from the sound of it. Could be an Ifil in the making if he stays fit though.



We lack creativity in the middle so McGovern was put in there to see if this could rectify the issue. Unfortunately it didn't so he was put back on the right.

Brezovan had made mistakes before he was dropped. We were shipping silly goals. Taking him out for Smith wasn't an error in Malpas' thinking, not dropping him after making us worse at the back would be mind you. I want to see Brez back on Tuesday.

We have never looked like play off material. I think the only worrying thing is the dip in home form. Easton on the right was a bad idea, but I think Malpas is still trying to get used to our players strengths and weaknesses. If you put McGovern/Roberts/McNamee/Zaaboub on either wing they only get slated anyway.

Bollocks! I'm sick of hearing this because it simply isn't true. We were mid-table then and we're mid-table now. You may think we "looked" a better side then, whereas I'd say we were inconsistent then and still are. Very little's changed. But that's opinion so let's inject some fact into the bullshit shall we?

As of November 27th we were 11th with 23 points, the same amount as Crewe and Huddersfield in 12th and 13th. We were 3 points off the play-offs and 4 points off 20th (as it was earlier in the season, the gap between the play-offs and relegation spots hadn't widened quite as much then). So we're in about the same position as we were then. We weren't tearing up trees then, we aren't now. The jury has to still be out on Malpas and I don't know whether he'll cut it but this idea that we were playing the finest football ever to grace the CG under Sturrock and just a few formalities away from European glory is, I'm afraid, utter shite. What's different is that people had confidence in Sturrock and they don't in Malpas so Sturrock could use that to paper over the same cracks we're still seeing now.

It does seem that some are rewriting history to back up their view.  We have never looked like a play off team this season.  Under Sturrock, Bryne or Malpas.

I think one of the problems with appointing malpas is that he hasn't exactly united the fans, cant think of a previous manager who didnt have his name sung by the crowd. Why does Fitton having money make him a better judge on choosing a manager? I hope im wrong but cant see Malpas being the one to take us forward.

Fully agree with Paul D.

After the last few years, at the start of the season I would've settled for survival and a mid-table finish. It was always a long shot for the play-offs after the poor form from mid Oct to the time the takeover happened just before Christmas, yet just because the Adver has said for the last few months that the play-offs were on, a number of supporters have bought this 'hook,line & sinker.' Fitton said they were on a 3 year plan to get into the Championship, so a season of consolidation suits me down to the ground, especially after all the fun & games off the field over the last few years.

How many league games have we lost under Malpas?
Is it 3?
Leeds - A team that would be second if they didn't have points deducted.
Forest - 4th in the league, 5th if you say Leeds are above them.
Walsall - 5th, would be 6th.

So we've lost 3 league games, to top 6 sides. Which means were playing like a mid table team - because we are one.
We are not good enough for the play offs, we also wont go down.

We also lost to Huddersfield

I seem to remember people saying Byrne wasn't the right man for job after similar amount of time.
Also that was leeds first win in 7 games.

It's the wrong sort of bollocks though. Not the good sort of bollocks which should be encouraged. You could say that this style of bollocks, whilst technically being bollocks, is disfigured and disease ridden. Maybe featuring on a Channel 5 documentary entitled "When bollocks go wrong!".

And the award for 'post of the day' goes to Mr f Ben.

Think we should have a - Do you think Malpas will be a success poll.

and i will vote no

as well as a 'Shall we give him a fucking chance' poll.

That could be one of the options yes.
How long do you give him though?
Byrne wasn't given a chance by most on here.

the how long one is a good question, I couldn't say for certain that he wasn't working before he'd had a pre-season and a transfer window, so I guess Novemberish.

Guess he deserves that but still not impressed so far, altho perhaps its better to experiment this season than start of next.

I think that's the problem. People wanted rid of Byrne so we could get in an experienced manager in who would get us playing to our perceived potential.

Then we got in a relatively inexperienced manager who now has to spend time to learn about the players etc. I think this is why many have got on Malpas' back so early on.

I must admit I don't think it was the right appointment but things could change as time wears on.

I like the fact he is trying different things (strange ones admittedly), trouble is we dont have the players to do it so maybe next season we will, here's hoping.

malpas is like a wet fart. annoying and a bit of a shit.i was unconvinced but i have a hunch he is the wrong man.
him, byrne and williams wont work, again a hunch.
some of his selections are fucking mad to say the least

I think we're all assuming he doesn't learn anything from these experiments. If we actually assumed the opposite it may mean he can get the players in that he wants and get rid of the ones he doesn't like etc. as he's seen exactly what they can and can't offer.

No 3rd substitution yesterday was really odd.

Please don't.

Actually, can you normal types start polls in the boardroom section? I think I disabled it after loads of cretin style polls about takeovers and shit.

It's stupid anyway. Whether or not you think he'll be a success is pretty immaterial. Unless all you're interested in is some arse wipe style "I told you so". In which case you're a cretin anyway and can fuck off.

I'm not sure anybody's claiming we should sack him right now and get someone new in. Well I'm sure there are a few, but quite frankly that seems like a mental idea. If the rest of the season remains pretty abysmal then I can see an argument for change. Mainly because the end of the season is the best time for a manager change, and if it's starting to become clear that it'll become inevitable, then you might as well do it sooner rather than another fucking mid season change.

As most on here were somewhat involved in the protests and stuff (which were all much more recent than they actually feel), it seems like there's a line between people who are happy that the club isn't going under and others who are disappointed that it hasn't instantly translated over to the football side of things.

Personally, it was always more about the continuous existence of the club and it not being ran into the ground on the roulette table of a quick buck. I'm happy with a season and a half of league one security, before the club starts pushing for more. I'm not really bothered if Malpas is just going to hang around for this stable (and dull) period, eventually being replaced by a more ambitious successor; or if he pulls it out the bag at some point and it's under him that we turn good and push up the league. Unless things get too bad of course, and I think that comes under the subject of one of the previous paragraphs of this pretend sensible post.

I'm going to have to post a fuck load of manatee pictures to make up for this one.

Was joking really, no us normal types cant which as you said is probably a good job. Perhaps this is Fittons plan all along, somebody to take us to end of season then replace with a.n.other, tho why not just keep Byrne? Think i should go to bed im confusing myself.

yeah, us "normal" types who go to games and that. what a bunch of cunts eh?


cock

Long day Colin?  :D

I expected people to pick up on the other bits of my badly written, randomly long, marathon football post.

If that's the only problem you had with what I wroted, then I'm ok with it. And maybe slightly aroused.

I chose to ignore the "cretin" part of that post as he doesn't know me and whether im being serious or not, 80% bollocks remember.
I'm sure this forum would an interesting place if we all agreed on everything.

changed my mind ..

He changes his mind every week because he's getting to know the team, and who to play where.

And if Sturrock got the best out of the players, but soemtimes results didn't happen, that would suggest something wrong with the legendary sturrocks tactics.

Its ok I liked the rest of the post

XXX

Charisma!  Arf, get a grip some of you.  

What the hell has charisma ever had to do with being a decent manager?

Granted Maurice may have been to the same Scotch charm school as Moyes, Ferguson and Sturrock but in terms of being dour and Scotch he’s in good company when it comes to successful managers.  I would actually say when it comes to his post match interviews he’s articulate and refreshingly open when it comes to taking it on the chin and doesn’t isolate individuals for criticism.  A refreshing change from a half hour Sturrock mumble or an Andy King rant.

and Huddersfield.

What an absolute load of twaddle just what players did Sturrock get the best out of? Yes Ifil was consistent but Roberts & Zaboub were just as patchy in and out of form all the time as was the majority of the first team squad.  Different players thrive under different managers look at Roberts under Wise when he got additional responsibility and was treated like a star he thrived but under the next 3 managers hes struggled again.  Fatters the Sturrock era was certainly not a golden one he struggled to get us promoted from league 2 and this season was pretty appaling also, I did'nt enjoy his football and certainly don't look back on his management fondly.

I look back on Sturrock fondly, I think it's a shame his "era" coincided with the takeovers, I think that if he had been here without all the takeover goings on, Sturrock could have repeated his Plymouth feat.

Don't get me wrong I too didn't really enjoy most of his football, although there were definite highs, but the bloke got us the results we needed.

Agree 100% McSporran. For me, Sturrock was the perfect manager for this club. As time goes on, the more gutted I actually feel about him going (in saying that I am not knocking MM) If only the takeover could have gone ahead a couple of months earlier I'm sure he would have stayed. It was just very unfortunate that the Plymouth job came up when STFC's future was so uncertain and I can't blame him for for going when he did. Not when it was Plymouth which he obviously has such an affinity with, combined with the utterly dire straights we were in at that particular time.

As for all the pissing and moaning about Malpas, it really needs to stop. It is not doing anyone any good. Maybe it will turn out that MM hasn't got what it takes but all I know is that over the years, I have seen far too many great managers get off to really rocky starts to start slating Malpas (Ferguson was not liked at Man U for a good two or three years and when O'Neill first took over at Leicester, I can remember the fans actually invading the Board Room for show down talks or something like that.)

Sometimes you really just have too stick with things. If Andrew Fitton has anything about him (and he has shown that he does) There is no way he will get rid of MM in the summer so let's just knock all that stuff on the head can we? At least for the rest of the season? Quick fixes and popular choices are not the answer. Exhibit A) Newcastle United. Let's all just chill for a bit.

And as for the booing of Phil Smith...don't get me started...every one of those mother fuckers who did that should be fucking executed.

Malpas has got Paynter playing in good form. Comminges seems to be playing with just as much confidence. McNamee is a prospect. Kanyuka if they can get him fit will be decent.

Those are the positives. I won't post any negatives because that wasn't the original question

Our record under Malpas is: Played 11 Won 4 Drawn 3 Lost 4 which is mid-table form. So pretty much what the doctor ordered.

Doctor Fitton's red and white army

Fucking ace post OST !

Fuck sake why did Malpas play Miguel on the left  :mrgreen:

I'm a bit slow, why did he?

can I get a FACT! please!

Does anyone else find the FACT! thing just as annoying as the Malpas debating (which I so frequently get involved in anyway)?

 :o

Yes, its annoying FACT!

 :roll:


bet you didnt see that one coming

No I didn't Daniel (FALSE!)

Vincent was injured during the warm-up, so Jack Smith was brought in for him. I'm pretty sure Smith has played left back before but I think moving Minge over made sense.

That's why I've dropped it. It's been done to death now.


FACT!


Do'h! That's the last one 8)