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.... whatever you like. Just a reminder that Jeremy Wray is attending the Trust meeting this Saturday before the Walsall game (11.30 start in the Crossways Suite of the Moonrakers). The meeting's open to all fans whether or not you're members of the Trust and it's a great chance for people to put questions to the new board, thank them for saving the club, find out what their favourite cheeses are etc

Do we call him Jez, Jezza or what?

Jeremy maybe?

sir jeremy wray esquire

i'd like to ask him if his and the new boards agenda is the same as all the others who tried to get the club.(exept the power consortium)
by this i mean taking swindon town fc to a different location away from sn1 to cash in on other developments?
if so, are they acting in the best interests of the club or themselves?

How far away from SN1 though? If it's still somewhere in Swindon I won't mind, can't really see a re-development at the current site happening to be honest. Residents complain too much by the sounds of it.

Junction 17 is a no no though.

Is this relocation a recent revelation (in last two weeks that I may have missed) or is it just hear say?

Im working til 2.50 on Saturday so could someone ask these questions if possible.

Could they look at promoting the junior robins a little bit more it’s a great chance to get the young ones at a early stage.

Could we look at the possibility of a 5 year season ticket with two vip days out included

The kid a quid scheme

And some free advertising space for the prospect foundation behind the goals

That is all thanks

Noted Macca. I'll take them along.

nothing to do with hearsay.its a question of the boards agenda, in comparison to the others who tried but failed to gain control of the club.

Cheers sam

I think what arriba means is that it's neither a revelation nor hearsay but something he would be concerned about (and I think we all would be) if the new board had any plans to relocate outside Swindon which as far as anyone knows they don't. But he's worried about it and would like some kind of explicit reassurance. That sum it up arriba?

Not wishing to be negative but what is the situation and long term plans for the remaining Dunwoody employees?

Will they be retained or are they likely to be farmed out once the transitional phase has passed.

Talking of Dunwoody I'm sure this can be answered by someone on here for me but does Mike D still have a stake and if so what in and how much?

Cheers Ears

yeah more or less paul.
i just hope the board have stfc as the main priority. rather than the hope of lining their own pockets by moving us elsewhere needlessly.
if moving location is the best solution for stfc then fine. if not then thats what would worry me.
power with the trusts help had a workable county ground plan.i'd like to see something similar from fitton and co.

I don't see how the current board can profit by moving the Stadium, after all we don't even own the one that we are in now.

Or maybe I am missing something.

I'd be against a move out of Swindon of course though, even despite my location.

Surely the idea would be to build a new stadium which they then own, but with added facilites allowing the club to make profit on non-matchdays e.g. hotels, conference rooms etc.

I assumed if they redeveloped the land they would take a cut of the profits?

I'm not sure if my best shout at theifing some pints are at this or the merlin. It's a dilemma.

go for both.

But it's their company anyway, and so of course they will take their cut of the profits, in fact business owners take 100% of the net profits and then decide what, if anything, to re-invest into the company (Players ect.) Which pretty much means that every PRIVATE club/business is dependant on the intentions of the owners.

The thing is that AF & Co. DO NOT own the county ground nor the land that it stands on. So what I don't understand and forgive me if I am being a bit slow but how then they profit from real estate that they do not own?????

I see Daves point about moving and then them OWNING the stadium, but building a stadium wont be cheap and so surely it there is no chance of a get rich (Or richer) quick scheme. How much will it cost to biuld a new stadium? I don't know 5, 10 20 Mill??? My point is that it will take some success from the football side of things (Crowds, merchandise ect..) for them to even recoup that capital.

It's far from the Brighton scenario when their new "saviour" walked in and promptly set about selling Brightons stadium to line his pockets.

Something else that we should bear in mind also is that OF COURSE they are in it for the money to some degree, 99.99% of all business owners are in business with a view to making a profit. And the only way that AF and co are gona make any money is to turn STFC into a profitable business.

yeah, i know. i meant by redeveloping the council-owned land they will take some of the profits for it. i'm sure there's many on here that can explain it well.

I think thats really been the number one reason why we've been looking at getting a new ground for ages

It's the making money from the re-development of something that they don't own which baffles me. I'd have thought that once a lease is up, you extend or your out, although I do appreciate that we are not talking about a rented house here and so there are probably many things that I just don't get.

Maybe somebody like PaulD would be able to enlighten me.

Look at Hull's Kingston Communications stadium as the perfect example Bangkok.

Council and club owned developent on Council land.  The stadium is built with the community in mind and the shareholders or club (which ever way you want to look at it) jointly own/run the stadium from a 3rd party management company.

Swansea and Stoke are similar examples.

That's a similar model to what the Trust were gunning for in their proposals a while back.

I don't wish to ask Mr Wray this, but perhaps someone on here knows the way to the venue.  Not being a Swindonian I don't know where it is.

If it makes a difference I will be driving down through Burford on the A429 (I think), so could give someone a lift if they're on the way (and know where they are going).  Thanks all.

Entering Swindon from the Burford direction turn right at the second roundabout, it will be signed for the crematorium.  Follow this road past the crem, you go over the A419 on the road bridge and reach a set of traffic lights at the Kingsdown pub.  Go straight over and follow this road for about 1.5 miles, you will come to a double mini roundabout and the Moonies will be straight in front of you!!

Well this was always one of the big problems with the old board's proposals - they always started from the basis that the council would just give them the CG site to use for housing etc which the council legally can't do. You're right in that the immediate profits in development generally come from taking undeveloped land, building something of value on it then selling on said thing of value for more than it cost you to buy the land and build the thing of value. In the case of the CG redev, we worked on the basis that there probably wasn't huge immediate profits to be made from the actual redevelopment, although we did try to look at ways of making the rebuild and build of associated facilities self-financing, but that the point was to build in facilities which could then be used to generate long-term revenue streams to build the business.

But I should say here everyone seems to be working on the assumption that the new guys are just about to launch a redev/relocation. And AFAIK there's no such plan (which doesn't mean they won't be looking at it in the medium-long term) but they want to get the business stable first. And that's stable as in "viable and properly run" as opposed to "full of horseshit" as may have been the meaning used in the past

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The best idea is to just bulldoze Walcot and build a stadium + extra facilities there. Not too far from the current site, easy to get to, extra revenue plus the massive advantage of Walcot being bulldozed. Everybody wins!

Unfortunately I don't think Fitton, Wray and co are legally allowed to put together plans that extinguish an entire suburb... Paul?

Listen you seem a nice lad but im gonna hurt you soon

not all people in walcot are scum.
just most of them......

agreed

i lived there for 10 years macca.
shame, as my neighbours were great.
the trouble with there and other council estates is that the decent people are gradually dieing out.their homes are then taken by the riff raff that cause all the problems.

agree mate im lucky as the few around me have all bought our house apart from the tramps next door.

Someone got stabbed last week and i saved him 8)

Cheers Ronnie.  Good lad.

Can someone ask him if they will change our mascot to a manatee

you not going si?

and are you going axs if you're still awake?

How are people getting out there?

yes, i am going.

how are you getting to the mysterious moooonrakers ( I think it's there I can't be arsed to read the original post)

Not sure I can be bothered.

Can't make this as I'm picking my lad up at 12.00. I will be in the Merlin though :D

Wouldn't have any original questions to ask anyway................................

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