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Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:12:51
Just been checking the Fulham website(nothing better to do) and he's been in good form for Fulham reserves this season,masterminding wins over Arsenal reserves among others.Could well be an answer to our dearth of creativity?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: STFC Bart on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:15:59
Something needs to happen and quick. Quite how the manager can complain about the quality of crosses when he plays one of the best crossers of the ball in centre midfield is beyond me


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:38:49
Timlin would certainly fill a gap, especially if he is nowhere near Fulham's first team, he was a decent player for us previously

Although you have to wonder why he has not been picked up by any other team since he went back to Fulham.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Arriba on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:43:43
shouldn't we just let malpas and his mstaff get in who they target?
i thought that diagoraga or whatever he was called would be better if we're dragging up old loanees.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: red macca on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:43:48
Quote from: "STFC Bart"
Something needs to happen and quick. Quite how the manager can complain about the quality of crosses when he plays one of the best crossers of the ball in centre midfield is beyond me
Who would you play there mate.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: swindon-chap on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:57:49
Quote from: "arriba"
shouldn't we just let malpas and his mstaff get in who they target?
i thought that diagoraga or whatever he was called would be better if we're dragging up old loanees.


He's on loan at Hereford atm so i'd say get Timlin in, he was different class sometimes in his previous loan spell with us.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 11, 2008, 15:58:14
Id personally play 3 in midfield .. 2 up front and either 5 at the back and use Comminges  and Zaaboub as the full or wing backs ... with say Ifil Aljofree and Vicent or Kanyouka in the middle 3

OR ..

play the normal back 4 ... 2 up front still .. but with a central midfield 3 - 1 holding midfielder and 1 free roving midfielder who would pull out wide - switching from flank to flank .. someone like Roberts or Zaaboub


Lee Holmes is looking the part at Walsall tho isnt he???


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: red macca on Monday, February 11, 2008, 16:08:59
Dont think timlin is much different to easton to be honest


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: dell boy on Monday, February 11, 2008, 16:12:17
Quote from: "red macca"
Dont think timlin is much different to easton to be honest


I believe we need an experienced, proven midfield player at this level more than a youngster.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2008, 17:07:52
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Dirk Diggler on Monday, February 11, 2008, 17:12:07
I do agree. Timlin was "gash" towards the end of the loan


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Monday, February 11, 2008, 17:21:29
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.



But he's not crap now though by all accounts and Prem clubs dont tend to hang on to players for 6 years if they're crap


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2008, 17:53:02
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.



But he's not crap now though by all accounts and Prem clubs dont tend to hang on to players for 6 years if they're crap


 Oh but they do....think Colin  Heath....think Jamie Slabber.   They have so much money sloshing around, that they've lost all sense of perspective.

  Guys like Slabber, drive around in their personalised reg cars at 19 thinking they're the great I am. then can't even cut it at non league clubs like O*frod.

  I'l wager both Lukey Dukey and Tozer gp the same way.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, February 11, 2008, 18:03:07
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
They have so much money sloshing around, that they've lost all sense of perspective.

Which pretty much sums up the Premiership Cash Cow in a nutshell. One day though, the bubble will burst. Fair play to Sturrock I guess, for realising that and cashing in on it. Good luck to Lukas and Tozer but they are really not that good.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2008, 18:15:44
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
They have so much money sloshing around, that they've lost all sense of perspective.

Which pretty much sums up the Premiership Cash Cow in a nutshell. One day though, the bubble will burst. Fair play to Sturrock I guess, for realising that and cashing in on it. Good luck to Lukas and Tozer but they are really not that good.


  Its ony a matter of time before the Prem clubs start seriously campaigning for running second and perhaps even third teams in  the football league.

   Its what happens, for example, in Spain.  Just about every smallish Spanish side seems to have a player who was once with Real or Barca B team.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 11, 2008, 18:45:11
I already mentioned him a couple of days ago  :D


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: leefer on Monday, February 11, 2008, 19:12:24
Timlin will be secretly hoping Fulham go down,he will get some starts in the championship.....good passer but dont think hes better than we got.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Monday, February 11, 2008, 21:05:50
I disagree-with the exception of Easton,I think Timlin would be the pick of our current crop of midfielders.As I said by all accounts he's performing well against far better players than yer general crop of league one material.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2008, 21:22:58
Quote from: "adje"
I disagree-with the exception of Easton,I think Timlin would be the pick of our current crop of midfielders.As I said by all accounts he's performing well against far better players than yer general crop of league one material.


  I'd still argue that Prem reserve football is a bit irrelevant to our football, and it can be very hard for players to go across from this to proper football.

 Look at these teams Fulham v Spurs from over a year ago....

   Ricardo Batista  1  Robert Burch
      TJ Moncur  2  Cian Hughton
 Elliot Omozusi  3  Reto Ziegler
     Adam Watts  4  Keiran McKenna(C)  
Gabriel Zakuani  5  Phil Ifil
  Matty Collins  6  Leigh Mills
    Chris James  7  Stuart Lewis
    Wayne Brown  8  Jamie O’Hara
    Ismael Ehui  9  Tomas Pekhart
 Bjorn Runstrom 10  Andy Barcham
 Lino Goncalves 11  Charlie Daniels

    A few familiar names to us....Collins and Mills...mini Beast, now departed.

   Omozusi has recently had a couple of games and so has O'Hara...I'll wager the rest will struggle to get a career at a decent league club.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Monday, February 11, 2008, 21:46:53
OK point taken but,for every Slabber and Heath, there is a Given,Carrick,Thompson,Milner,Davis and Cox-all reserve team players who did ok for us.Timlin is quite highly rated by some Fulham fans according to their forums and Im just saying that he would be worth a punt if the opportunity arose


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2008, 21:54:54
Quote from: "adje"
OK point taken but,for every Slabber and Heath, there is a Given,Carrick,Thompson,Milner,Davis and Cox-all reserve team players who did ok for us.Timlin is quite highly rated by some Fulham fans according to their forums and Im just saying that he would be worth a punt if the opportunity arose


 Fair enough, but the Prem clubs trawl up any likely looking talent form the lower divs and elsewhere, can afford to pick out one or two prime specimens and chuck the rest back in the sea.

 Having seen Timlin, I'd have down as more Slabber and Heath, than Carrick Thompson or Milner.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: JPC82 on Monday, February 11, 2008, 21:56:13
i think ur being harsh on Timlin, hes decent, if we even had a sniff of getting him back id be delighted


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Tails on Monday, February 11, 2008, 23:28:39
Charlie Daniels is on loan at Orient, cracking player. Matty Collins went on loan somewhere I think? Can't remember where.  Not sure really about most of them. Is that Moncur any relation to John?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 08:20:14
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Exactly.

Some people on here need to broaden their horizons a bit. Mike fucking Timlin again? Pffft.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Dirk Diggler on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 08:37:31
Timlin

Scored an excellent freekick last night against Chelsea reserves!


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 10:30:29
Quote from: "Dirk Diggler"
Timlin

Scored an excellent freekick last night against Chelsea reserves!


And got an assist as well for Fulham's other goal


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 11:50:28
timlin's ok, but he's nopt the answer. Loan players are all well and good but we need to sign someone who's going to actually give a sh*t, and who's been there and done it. I have always wanted Horlock to come back but he's getting on now!


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 13:33:48
Quote from: "DMR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Exactly.

Some people on here need to broaden their horizons a bit. Mike fucking Timlin again? Pffft.



Who do you suggest Michael fucking Carrick-he cant get a regular game for Utd.Some people on here need a reality check


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 13:50:15
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "DMR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Exactly.

Some people on here need to broaden their horizons a bit. Mike fucking Timlin again? Pffft.



Who do you suggest Michael fucking Carrick-he cant get a regular game for Utd.Some people on here need a reality check


Very true, better options and less outlay getting a Championship midfielder around the 30 year old mark on loan. There a few about who dont get regular 1st team footie.
Timlin is not the answer.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 13:56:02
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "DMR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Exactly.

Some people on here need to broaden their horizons a bit. Mike fucking Timlin again? Pffft.



Who do you suggest Michael fucking Carrick-he cant get a regular game for Utd.Some people on here need a reality check
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No you've missed the point. If I'm not mistaken Timlins been out to Scunny and Doncaster in recent years, and couldn't get a look in at Scunthorpe thought he was dreadful and DR didn't even play him.

I'd like someone half decent (which counts Timlin out based on the second half of his loan spell, and we're now in a higher standard) and more to the point it's a step backwards. Why don't we go and sign Don Rogers, he was alright.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 14:01:41
Where did Allen go out on loan, would it not be a good time to drag him back?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 14:35:39
I agree with DMR. We can aim for better than Timlin that doesnt mean we have to be unrealistic though.

And no, I dont have anyone in mind. My knowlege of premiership reserves isnt great.  I just cant help but think there is a better central midfielder out there than timlin who is willing to join us on loan.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 14:46:13
Quote from: "dell boy"
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "DMR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Timlin started off well, but was distinctly crap, by the time he returned to Fulham....I always worry when players reach early 20's and haven't played much first team football.

 You can only really learn the game by playing proper competitive football.


Exactly.

Some people on here need to broaden their horizons a bit. Mike fucking Timlin again? Pffft.



Who do you suggest Michael fucking Carrick-he cant get a regular game for Utd.Some people on here need a reality check


Very true, better options and less outlay getting a Championship midfielder around the 30 year old mark on loan. There a few about who dont get regular 1st team footie.
Timlin is not the answer.




I dont get it-lets get a Championship reserve rather than a Prem reserve?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 16:01:40
I think the point was lets get an experienced Championship reserve rather than a naive Premership youngster


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 17:03:19
Quote from: "reeves4england"
I think the point was lets get an experienced Championship reserve rather than a naive Premership youngster



Yeah-naive Premiership youngsters are shit,like Cox


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 17:19:44
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "reeves4england"
I think the point was lets get an experienced Championship reserve rather than a naive Premership youngster



Yeah-naive Premiership youngsters are shit,like jamie slabber, michael timlin, colin heath, neale mcdermott, petr mikolanda


those are from the last three seasons alone. Non premier league loanees in the same period include:

- Hameur Bouazza
- Ashley Westwood
- barry corr
- sam collins


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 17:21:34
and lee holmes came from a championship club


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: adje on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 17:52:46
Quote from: "STFC dave"
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "reeves4england"
I think the point was lets get an experienced Championship reserve rather than a naive Premership youngster



Yeah-naive Premiership youngsters are shit,like jamie slabber, michael timlin, colin heath, neale mcdermott, petr mikolanda


those are from the last three seasons alone. Non premier league loanees in the same period include:

- Hameur Bouazza
- Ashley Westwood
- barry corr
- sam collins



Yep,as were Pat Collins,Albert Jarrett,Chris McPhee,Diagouraga,Trevor Benjamin and Paul Mitchell to name a few.Anyway that's beside the point,I'm saying in my opinion Timlin is a good player who would do a job for us now(oh,and Westwood wasn't all that) Oh again,Jimmy Davis weren't bad for a naive Prem youngster.We could go on like this all night!


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 19:10:34
Timlin won't go to a club below Championship level.


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: JPC82 on Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 23:04:21
Quote from: "dell boy"
Where did Allen go out on loan, would it not be a good time to drag him back?

he isnt out on loan


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, February 14, 2008, 07:34:45
Wasnt Cox a naive Premiership youngster at the start of the season?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: dell boy on Thursday, February 14, 2008, 11:28:24
Quote from: "Im_Mint"
Quote from: "dell boy"
Where did Allen go out on loan, would it not be a good time to drag him back?

he isnt out on loan


Surprised he hasn't had a game recently with Easton being out injured, I thought he had done OK with the few chances he had.

Is Allen injured as well?


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: red macca on Thursday, February 14, 2008, 11:30:08
No allen is not good enough at the moment he said so himself basically last week


Title: Michael Timlin
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, February 14, 2008, 11:39:10
I've always liked the look of that Mark Bridge-Wilkinson.

He's a great huffer and puffer, creates a lot of chances and chips in with a few goals each season.

Not spectacular but he adds that something different to the mix.