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...........and they are the same as this season.

Bound to piss loads of people off, but personally I dont think my early bird renewal in the town end is that bad value at £267 (£11.60 a game)

Details on the official site

"Fucking disgrace, sack everyone connected with the club now!!  This is it, King out....etc"  Taken from thisisstfc forum later on today.

I did think they would see sense with the ludicrously expensive matchday tickets though. I think that is the area they lost most fans.

I agree!  Just out of interest, people who already have a season ticket, are you going to renew next year?

I am seriously in two minds which really pains me to say!  :(

Its bollocks.

Typical Swindon town not listening to the punters.

Is the picture of the Arkells Stand an impression of how busy it'll be for most games next season?

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home

I will be renewing mine, I love my football and will support my team no matter what.  Also If I don't the old fella will have me at home cooking and cleaning.  If I am at footy he has to do it......... I am not just a pretty face you know!!!  :wink:   :D

I am renewing alwayts will no matter what the price team is like

is it just season tickets that are the same or matchday prices too?

Im sorry but this is a "thisis" style rant

It says that they are hoping for 4000 season tickets!
and that thay have experienced steady increase on season tickets year in year!

I bet they dont increase this year in fact I have no idea why anyone would buy a season ticket this year at all.

You dont know what players are going to be here.

You do know that there will be less money in wages to replace players that go.

You wouldnt buy a car and not look at the engine would you?  The club are counting on your blind loyalty and are ripping you off into the bargain.So well done season ticket holders for keeping the club running maybe one day the they will repay you.

Everythings the same Rich apart from the standard of football on offer.

I did think twice about renewing, but it makes finacial sense (if i went to 17 games next season paying £15 in the TE it would cost as much as my season ticket) and I started to feel guilty about abandoning the club when it needs its hardcore fans most.

I know what you mean Yeovil, to get the "Early bird" prices you have to pay by 31st may. At which point we'll have a squad of about 5 :roll:

Exactly the emotional blackmail the club like to use in its loing suffering fans.

i can see your point yeovil, but if I can afford a season ticket I am gonna have it, and I can afford it so I am gonna have it

what they dont say is that although they've had an increase in season ticket sales they've had a massive decrease in the amount of matchday tickets sold - so they are still losing money!

these prices aren't successful and the board cant see it. we will get crowds of around 3,500 next year.

well that sucks then doesnt it!

I'll tell you what REALLY pisses me off, it's when people quite rightly moan about the ludicrously high prices in the Nationwide Stand and some sanctimonious git comes out with, "Well what's the problem, if you were a proper fan you would just go in the Town End for 15 quid!"

They say "It's only 15 quid" like it's the f******* bargain of the f******* century!!!!!  Oooooooh, we should be sooooooooo grateful - We only have to pay 15 quid to watch complete dross - thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, we are not worthy - I wish self righteous gits like that would f*** off and die quite frankly.

Even at 15 quid, you are talking in the region of a 100 per cent increase in the last 10 years.  My salary in the same period has gone up all of 6 percent.

Do the maths children!!!!!

People won't pay those prices.  As someone else said, it's no good reducing prices for one game, it has to be for the season.

And don't talk to me about what a f****** bargain the f****** Town End is :evil:

You know, that town end is a right bargain these days. i cant think of anything that offers better value for money

bring it back!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/legodcuervo/kidaquid1.jpg

i wasn't gonna get one until hull away when i remembered how much i love the club
loyal supporters (luckily a student  :wink: )

I was convinced prices would go up this season, so I'm pleasantly surprised. Not sure if I'll bother renewing my season ticket though.

kid a quid is not economically viable currently.

The club needs all the money it can get NOW.

If the new stadium goes ahead and we sort our debts out, that will be the time for such initiatives.

To try and increase our long term fanbase (which WILL cost money short term) would be very foolish when the club lurches from one cashflow problem to the next.

They were never going to put the prices down, so not increasing them is better than I was expecting to be honest.

There will be a decrease in season tickets this year that is almost guaranteed.

Unfortunately due to the ridiculous pay on the day prices those that don't renew will likely vanish for a large part of the home games.  More regional teams replacing those that involve a trek will mean many people opt for away games over home.

It's a catch 22 that unless the team excels and really succeeds on the pitch it's going to be impossible to tempt non-season ticket holders, new fans and stay-aways on anything other than the odd derby or big game.

What will happen is a slow painful decline in season ticket holders until we hit crunch point.  

One saving grace will be to allow King a little muscle in the transfer market.  Alright we don’t have the readies but give him some backing rather than slash the wage even further.

doubt i'll bother this season, get a job and earn some money.

http://www.truststfc.co.uk/news_item.php?id=538

The Trust response for what its worth.Everything they say is right and you can't argue with the maths.

also, why does it for junior season tickets in the town end say 'N/A'??

 :shock:

and now, sorry bout the rant ive found out im not a junior...so do you have to have a student card for the concession season tickets?

Kid for a quid worked, got me going, and now i've been a season ticket holder for two years. so my dad had to get one, if the kid wants a season ticket, then they've got to get their dad to go to, if the club did it once or twice a season it would get them a bit more money

Anyone that's not read it here is the link to the Trusts statement today:

http://www.truststfc.co.uk/news_item.php?id=538





An average of 2k game!

To be fair the loss of several regional(ish) teams has not helped but it's a real shocker.  What's worse it that figures are set to drop again lord knows by how many but it will be considerable.

Yeah but


Average Attendance 2002/2003 5,440
Average Attendance 2004/2005 5,890

Gain of 450 and we're in a similar position to where we were that season. We were in the playoffs from January onwards last season which increased the average attendance hugely. The Bristol City game alone added on about 350.

How we're doing is always going to be the main factor.

Ben the facts are there for everyone to see.

We have been on  a playoff push nearly all year the prices have stopped people coming.

a 25 percent drop is proof that the pricing  doesnt work.

Stop making excuses for our useless board.

I'm not making excuses for the board I think they've got the prices wrong and shouldn't have put them up last year but the main reasons attendances have been lower this year is 'cos we've only been in the playoffs for one home game this year whilst last year it was about 12 and that makes a massive difference.

If prices had stayed the same I doubt the average attendance would be more than 500 more than it has been, 300 or so probably, although perhaps the extra fans would've helped us into the playoffs and increased it that way, who knows.

I am pretty sure that I will renew mine but if next season is still ery poor and then I have to pay adult prices 4eva then I will sod off to uni and go to some local away games.

Very true, results on the pitch will always be the prime motivating factor on attendances.

However

00/01 - 6,198 (20th)
01/02 - 6,393 (13th)
02/03 - 5,440 (10th)

02/03 was a very different year to the current season.  First off the return of Andy King for his first full season in charge.  Not a popular call, then there was the unfortunate incident of starting pre-season in administration.  There was very little expectation as the club endured its record run of defeats but managed to make up places with a late run of form.  

In comparison this season started reasonably optimistic despite the usual odd summer shenanigan that we have all come to expect.  Overall it has been reasonably stable but nevertheless disappointing in terms of results on the pitch.  

One thing that strikes me is that in both pre-seasons there was a significant increase on ticket prices.  Alright it’s year on year however both sparked probably the biggest outcry in recent years.

Going into 03/04 there was quite a buyout mood with a complete new look squad, people where maybe not warming but getting used to King, and with the success of Sam Parkin things looked to be on the up.  The addition of the cheaper TE tickets took the edge off the usual increase.  

We go into next season amid rumours of players leaving, slashed wage budgets and off the back of a largely disappointing year.  I can’t help but think that unless King manages an awe inspiring clearout and re-build we are going to be regularly below 4k on gates.

an NUS card yes....

well better get one when im 16 then!

johno you have to go to college to get an NUS card. i.e. a student

think he needs to go back to school if he can't figure that one out  :o

yeh lads, i am going onto further education. not that bad in life  :wink:

yeah but you won't be elligible for an NUS card until you are a full time student, which will be september at the earliest i assume, which'll be too late for you to get an early bird renewal season ticket as a student. best to go in and tell them about the loophole you find yourself in. i mean a 16 year old just out of school having to pay full adult price is ridiculous.

Was thinking the same dex, does seem a little harsh for the 16 year olds out there.  Especially the ones who are staying on at sixth form, I presume they won't be eligible for a NUS card.

Yes and Im sure that guy in the ticket office will be more than helpfull. :-))( Your fucked Johno..