Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 10:50:43 So who would you like to see make Capellos first 11?
Id want to see Rob Green or David James in Goal. Id like to see Hargreaves based on current form and also SWP. Agbonlahor and Bentley must be in the fray for a chance along with A Young. Thats just who I'd like to see get a shot, perhaps not all 1st XI but in the squad for sure. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 10:52:58 Carson
Richards Ferdinand Upson Bridge Bentley Barry Gerrard A. Young Ashton Rooney I reckon that'd be pleasant. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 10:54:31 Luke Young :o I hope you meant Ashley!
Agree with Agbonlahor and Bentley, would like to see Beckham lead the team out for his 100th as well. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 10:55:06 Quote from: "STFC Village" Luke Young :o I hope you meant Ashley! Agree with Agbonlahor and Bentley, would like to see Beckham lead the team out for his 100th as well. I just changed it as was getting carried away as reading BBC at same time!!!!!!!! :D Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 11:06:30 Who the fuck is Ashley Young? I thought you were taking the piss and meant Alan.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 11:09:35 Ashley Simon Young (born 9 July 1985 in Stevenage, England) is an English professional footballer of Jamaican origin who currently plays as both a midfielder and a striker for Aston Villa.
There you go Ben! Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 11:12:01 Cheers :D
Villa players in the England team? Awesome. It sounds like we're sorting things out and dropping the big name cunts. I might start caring again at some point. But only if Beckham, Gerrard, and anybody else off the top of my head aren't in the team. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:11:13 Hart
Richards Ferdinand Lescott Bridge Beckham Gerrard Lampard Joe Cole Rooney Owen Subs Green Barry Agbonlahor Bentley Crouchy Carrick Hargreaves Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:12:16 Good choice there fatters, Lampard & Gerrard are fucking ace together
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:13:00 I dont see how anyone can justify dropping Barry.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:13:54 Quote from: "STFCLady" I dont see how anyone can justify dropping Barry. The only person I would consider dropping him for is a fully fit Hargreaves. And I think Cappello will do just that Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:14:57 Quote from: "Colin Todd" Quote from: "STFCLady" I dont see how anyone can justify dropping Barry. The only person I would consider dropping him for is a fully fit Hargreaves. And I think Cappello will do just that I agree with that however I mean putting in lampard in place of Barry. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:18:40 Quote from: "STFCLady" Quote from: "Colin Todd" Quote from: "STFCLady" I dont see how anyone can justify dropping Barry. The only person I would consider dropping him for is a fully fit Hargreaves. And I think Cappello will do just that I agree with that however I mean putting in lampard in place of Barry. So did I :wink: Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DMR on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:44:35 Quote from: "STFCLady" I dont see how anyone can justify dropping Barry. Because he's so fucking limited, he's actually a bit crap. Never understood the Barry love in.... a solid performance against some dross third world country isn't anything to get excited about. In the 2 big games, Russia away and Croatia, I'm sure he was terrible, wasn't he hauled off at half time in Russia? Poor mans Michael Carrick, perhaps the only redeeming feature being he's a lefty. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:48:37 I clarified above that I stated dropping Barry FOR LAMPARD!
So you'd prefer Lampard then Dave is that what you're saying? Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: red macca on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:50:20 You been owned you white bitch
(not you luce) Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DMR on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:53:35 Quote from: "STFCLady" I clarified above that I stated dropping Barry FOR LAMPARD! So you'd prefer Lampard then Dave is that what you're saying? I didn't read any further than the first bit 8) I don't think you can play Lampard & Gerrard no, so I'd say Carrick or Hargreaves ahead of Barry. Besides, hasn't Barry been out injured for a while? Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:54:13 Fatters' inclusion of Owen makes me laugh
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: juddie on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:54:41 rob green
richards rio lescott bridge bentley gerrard hargreaves A Young rooney ashton Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 13:59:25 Quote from: "DMR" Quote from: "STFCLady" I clarified above that I stated dropping Barry FOR LAMPARD! So you'd prefer Lampard then Dave is that what you're saying? I didn't read any further than the first bit 8) I don't think you can play Lampard & Gerrard no, so I'd say Carrick or Hargreaves ahead of Barry. Besides, hasn't Barry been out injured for a while? :mrgreen: thicko Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: thedarkprince on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 14:01:20 Quote from: "Colin Todd" Good choice there fatters, Lampard & Gerrard are fucking ace together Yeah, these two work wonders when paired together :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Drop Lampard - he's sh*te :nod: So does no one else think it would be funny to see Beckham finish on 99 caps ? Just me... Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DMR on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 14:02:36 Quote from: "STFCLady" Quote from: "DMR" Quote from: "STFCLady" I clarified above that I stated dropping Barry FOR LAMPARD! So you'd prefer Lampard then Dave is that what you're saying? I didn't read any further than the first bit 8) I don't think you can play Lampard & Gerrard no, so I'd say Carrick or Hargreaves ahead of Barry. Besides, hasn't Barry been out injured for a while? :mrgreen: thicko 1-1! Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 14:04:32 Well my opinion doesn't count for much seeing as though I don't support England - but when I have watched them, neither Lampard or Gerrard (apart from one game in Munich that I seem to forget :wink: ) seem to do much for England.
Hargreaves is much more effective - then choose somebody to partner him. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 15:54:30 James
Richards Ferdinand Lescott ? Bentley Hargreaves/barry Gerrard Young Agbonlahor/Owen Rooney Can't think of any fit left backs off the top of my head. Theres wayne bridge, but hes shit, so we'd probably be better off sticking 3 up front instead Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: red macca on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 15:55:32 Ashley cole, i believe he is a left back
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 15:56:58 Injured aint he?
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 16:05:42 "Marital problems"
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: red macca on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 16:05:51 Nah , black
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 16:36:33 Quote from: "juddie" rob green richards rio lescott bridge bentley gerrard hargreaves A Young rooney ashton Couldn't have put it better my self............. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 16:39:18 Ashton isn't fully fit/playing consistently though...
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:07:30 james
richards rio lescott a. cole (?) beckham gerrard hargreaves A Young rooney owen I'm sure plenty of people will disagree. But I'm hoping that's the team I'll be watching at my first ever England match next week! :D Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: richiestfc on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:29:09 Drop Lampard - he's sh*te :nod:
thank god for that someone has seen sense! lampard is utter cack prefer barry as hes a more creative player[/quote] Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: adje on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:34:00 Why Ferdinand,the ball-watcher,everyone?Centre backs should be Lescott and Richards with Richards reverting to right back when Ledley King's fit.Agree with Bentley and Young for the wide berths-definitely not Beckham.Rooney and Agbonlahor up front.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:40:07 I really am out of it with Premier League football. I've never heard of Agbonlahor either. That's a fucking awesome name.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:48:43 Quote from: "adje" Why Ferdinand,the ball-watcher,everyone?Centre backs should be Lescott and Richards with Richards reverting to right back when Ledley King's fit.Agree with Bentley and Young for the wide berths-definitely not Beckham.Rooney and Agbonlahor up front. Because as much of a twat as he is, Rio has been immense this season, with him and vidic being the best centre back pairing in the country Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: adje on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 17:54:46 That's coz Vidic is top class-he carries Ferdinand.See him on sunday,he didn't have a clue where Keane was on Spurs' goal-total ball watcher whose performances for England,especialyl against Croatia were embarrassing.He's crap when against any world class forward.Thats just my opinion of course.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 18:03:22 Rob Green
Micah Richards Rio Ferdinand Jo Lescott Ashley Cole David Bentley Steven Gerrard Joe Cole Ashley Young Wayne Rooney Gabby Agbonlahor Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 19:35:06 Richards isn't even that good. Hes out of position so many times, and his marking is poor. Its only his speed and big muscley body that lets him get away with it. In time he may develop into a good center back, but until then i'd have him nowhere near the england center back position
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 19:42:10 Lampard won't be first choice under Capello - not his style of player. Thank fuck for that.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 00:27:43 I don't see people's problem with choosing Beckham. The only time we looked good in the ill-fated last match was when we had Beckham whipping it into the box. And he's actually got himself fit now!
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 16:29:51 11 from :
Goalkeepers: David James (Portsmouth), Scott Carson (Liverpool on loan at Aston Villa), Chris Kirkland (Wigan Athletic) Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Curtis Davies (West Brom on loan at Aston Villa), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Portsmouth), Ledley King (Tottenham Hotspur), Nicky Shorey (Reading), Wes Brown (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Everton), Micah Richards (Manchester City), Matthew Upson (West Ham United), Jonathan Woodgate (Tottenham Hotspur) Midfielders: Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Aston Villa), Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham Hotspur), Owen Hargreaves (Manchester United), Joe Cole (Chelsea), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea), David Bentley (Blackburn Rovers) Forwards: Emile Heskey (Wigan Athletic), Gabriel Agbonlahor (Aston Villa), Michael Owen (Newcastle United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Peter Crouch (Liverpool) curtis davies?! Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 16:42:46 Absolutely shocked at the inclusion of kirkland over green, and curtis davies had only made 4 or 5 appearances for villa?? disappointed not to see ashton in there as well, can;t see how an unfit owen or fifth choice crouch can be a better option than deano but hey ho
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 16:49:43 When-oh-when will an England manager realise that Jermaine Jenas will never play in the 1st XI, therefore there being no point including him in the squad?
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: dell boy on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 16:51:50 Quote from: "Samdy Gray" When-oh-when will an England manager realise that Jermaine Jenas will never play in the 1st XI, therefore there being no point including him in the squad? Jenas is one of the most overrated player in the premier Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 16:52:01 Quote from: "Samdy Gray" When-oh-when will an England manager realise that Jermaine Jenas will never play in the 1st XI, therefore there being no point including him in the squad? The thing is is he is actually playing really at the moment, and is definitely in the top 6 or 7 English Center Midfielders Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DV on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 18:45:07 Jenas has been on form recently.
People do realise Robert Green is English dont they?!? Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Spud on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 18:50:36 I'm not a fan of Jenas but he's been in great form for Spurs recently and for that you can't ignore him.
Green should have been in the squad instead of Kirkland. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DMR on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 18:54:52 Quote from: "Spud" I'm not a fan of Jenas but he's been in great form for Spurs recently and for that you can't ignore him. Green should have been in the squad instead of Kirkland. You can, like this: ... ... Bowyer should've done everyone a favour and beaten the fuck out of him as well Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: McLovin on Friday, February 1, 2008, 08:46:10 I watch a lot of Spurs games, and Jenas is indeed frustrating. At present he's playing like one of the top English midfielders, and therefore should be in the squad. Unfortunately, you can almost guarantee that in 2 months time he could be playing like Matt Hewlett
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: neville w on Friday, February 1, 2008, 11:54:04 If Capello is going to base some of his selections on current form rather than just reputation, I've got no problem with that.
It'll be a familiarisation process with his managerial style to start with, but perhaps with a foreigner coming in again there are no preconceptions about "big names" Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Friday, February 1, 2008, 11:58:16 Based on current form I still can't understand why Kirkland has been picked over Green though as I think Green definitely has the edge. All in all though I agree with Nev.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, February 1, 2008, 14:40:16 Jenas = :wanker:
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DV on Friday, February 1, 2008, 19:21:07 Quote from: "STFCLady" Based on current form I still can't understand why Kirkland has been picked over Green though as I think Green definitely has the edge. All in all though I agree with Nev. I've come to the conclusion Rob Green is actually Scottish and cant play for England......its the only explination. On current form Green is the most inform English goal keeper and has been for some time. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: donkey on Friday, February 1, 2008, 19:38:33 Quote from: "DV" I've come to the conclusion Rob Green is actually Scottish and cant play for England......its the only explination. On current form Green is the most inform English goal keeper and has been for some time. Scottish Goalkeepers... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Saint. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, February 3, 2008, 23:16:27 I really have no idea why people choose to scapegoat Lampard when pretty much the whole team were fucking awful under McClaren, Lampard was one of the few who had a decent game against Croatia, only him Crouch and possibly Beckham played well.
He has scored 70 goals from midfield in the last 3 and a bit years but supposedly he's complete shite? Be serious. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: reeves4england on Monday, February 4, 2008, 00:15:16 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" I really have no idea why people choose to scapegoat Lampard when pretty much the whole team were fucking awful under McClaren, Lampard was one of the few who had a decent game against Croatia, only him Crouch and possibly Beckham played well. He's not shite, that's obvious. He just doesn't do the business in an England shirt. If we spent 90 minutes laying the ball off to him 20 yards out maybe he would, but that's not how the team plays so he looks lost in there imoHe has scored 70 goals from midfield in the last 3 and a bit years but supposedly he's complete shite? Be serious. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Monday, February 4, 2008, 08:50:40 Gutted for Agbonlahor getting injured, would have liked to see him get a chance.
Defoe called up instead now.........interesting. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: leefer on Monday, February 4, 2008, 20:54:03 Defoe is quality....great goal scoring record,will bang loads in for Pompey,and England given a chance,Kirkland is poor but to be honest ive lost all interest in friendlies....rather watch the under 19s!
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 07:34:58 Quote from: "leefer" Defoe is quality....great goal scoring record,will bang loads in for Pompey,and England given a chance,Kirkland is poor but to be honest ive lost all interest in friendlies....rather watch the under 19s! luckily you won't have to choose between the two, they're on different nights Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 08:32:55 Quote from: "leefer" Defoe is quality....great goal scoring record,will bang loads in for Pompey,and England given a chance,Kirkland is poor but to be honest ive lost all interest in friendlies....rather watch the under 19s! Nah, there is a reason Sven took an untested embryo to the WC instead of Defoe. He'll be a good club plaer but will have to improve significantly to convince me he is international quality. Playing regularly is a good start! Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 17:12:55 I don't rate Deofe as an international player as he never seems to produce in an England shirt. Good player in the Premiership though
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: DV on Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 18:44:52 the fact that Defoe and class get mentioned in the same sentence just shows how much the English standards of strikers is slipping.
England still havent replaced Alan Shearer! Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 08:53:30 Expected team: David James (Portsmouth), Wes Brown (Manchester United), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Matthew Upson (West Ham), Ashley Cole (Chelsea); David Bentley (Blackburn), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Owen Hargreaves (Manchester United), Ashley Young (Aston Villa); Joe Cole (Chelsea), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United).
from the BBC. Wes Brown? Dearie me. And Woodgate must be livid too. I'm interested in seeing Cole in attacking midfield, I think that's best position. Wings are right too, in my opinion. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 08:57:05 Brown over Richards .. I dont think so ... Joe Cole as a striker ???? .. Young and Bentley might do ok in this match but arent up to playing against top internationals .. they haver never played a Champions League game .. David CALAMITY back in goal??
Is Capello having a laff? Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 08:57:53 Its only a friendly ffs!!
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: tans on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 09:03:58 Quote from: "fatbury" Brown over Richards .. I dont think so ... Joe Cole as a striker ???? .. Young and Bentley might do ok in this match but arent up to playing against top internationals .. they haver never played a Champions League game .. David CALAMITY back in goal?? Is Capello having a laff? Fatters why is it you always jump down a new managers back? You did it with Malpas and now youre doing it with Capello! As Sippo says its only a friendly, and these are the times to try new things out. I think we'll win anyhow, 2-1. Right must go to bed now :? Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 09:10:47 I read that as being a 4-2-3-1 formation. Brown and Upson would be interesting inclusions
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: Luci on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 09:14:37 If this works out then I hope some of you eat your words!
If you cant shuffle things around in a friendly when can you?! We have until September to sort out our first XI for qualifying and if Capellos prepared to pick players based on performance as opposed to "big names" then I'm all for it. If they don't live up to his expectations they won't get in the team when it comes to the crunch. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 12:43:31 Quote from: "STFCLady" If this works out then I hope some of you eat your words! I don't mind players being chosen on form rather than by being a big name...but Brown over Richards?!If you cant shuffle things around in a friendly when can you?! We have until September to sort out our first XI for qualifying and if Capellos prepared to pick players based on performance as opposed to "big names" then I'm all for it. If they don't live up to his expectations they won't get in the team when it comes to the crunch. Fair play for playing David James, I think he deserves the shirt tonight Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 14:27:06 Quote from: "fatbury" Brown over Richards .. I dont think so ... Joe Cole as a striker ???? .. Young and Bentley might do ok in this match but arent up to playing against top internationals .. they haver never played a Champions League game .. David CALAMITY back in goal?? Is Capello having a laff? If you really think that we should only field players with Champions League experience then surely you're limiting the selection to the same few which have been putting in the mediocre performances in recent years. Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 14:31:04 As much as i don't really rate Brown, he's played right back all year, and not been terrible. Richards has been a centre back. Capello is picking players in the positions they play week in, week out and i for one am happy about that.
Title: Capellos 1st XI Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 15:08:24 At least Capello seems to have twigged that your best team is not your best 11 players but the best blend. Hopefully over time he'll find the best blend. Scummer McLaren and Sven picked the best 11 players available in the opinion of the press and then forced a formation on them to accomodate them. No wonder we'd constantly lose our shape under pressure. Leaving Owen on the bench would be a good sign as well. As for James, I really don't rate him, but he's there on merit which should put our other keepers to shame. I'd persevere with Carson and see if he's learnt. Brwon over richards is interesting but hey lets give it a go.
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