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Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: red macca on Monday, January 28, 2008, 12:56:13 With everyone stating we need to show more ambition etc and moaning that we should be competing with northampton.
I read that we still have to run every deal through the league still and with our massive wage bill ( the 3 kidnappers) maybe this could be the reason we are not able to pay to much at the moment Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Batch on Monday, January 28, 2008, 12:59:21 The voice of reason.
Fitton has said we will be run like no other club, and I didn't take that to mean spending ££££ we don't have. We need to put our house in order first. And whilst it is frustrating it is the correct thing to do. The big financial mess won't clear itself up overnight. Title: Re: Im getting pissed off Post by: DV on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:14:50 Quote from: "red macca" With everyone stating we need to show more ambition etc and moaning that we should be competing with northampton. I read that we still have to run every deal through the league still and with our massive wage bill ( the 3 kidnappers) maybe this could be the reason we are not able to pay to much at the moment how does our wage bill effect the ability to sign players? thats so league two! Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Sussex on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:32:45 fuck off macca.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Sussex on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:36:18 (The lower case 'F' was done on purpose btw..)
Title: Re: Im getting pissed off Post by: pauld on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:39:57 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "red macca" With everyone stating we need to show more ambition etc and moaning that we should be competing with northampton. I read that we still have to run every deal through the league still and with our massive wage bill ( the 3 kidnappers) maybe this could be the reason we are not able to pay to much at the moment how does our wage bill effect the ability to sign players? Oooh, wild guess here but maybe there's a playing budget? Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: DV on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:44:29 I'm sure there is....but there is no written rule that it has to be a % of turnover like in League Two.
I'm sure Fitton has a budget in mind, but if he wants on field progress he'll have to stretch the budget.... Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:47:03 Why? We can offload first, steady the ship, then think about everything else. As previous boards have proven, stretching the budget isn't particularly sensible.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, January 28, 2008, 23:57:33 Quote from: "DV" I'm sure there is....but there is no written rule that it has to be a % of turnover like in League Two. I'm sure Fitton has a budget in mind, but if he wants on field progress he'll have to stretch the budget.... As far as I know the percentage 'rule' applies in league one as well. I say rule, because it's more of an agreement between clubs. I don't think anyone has breached it since in force. Title: Re: Im getting pissed off Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 00:24:55 Quote from: "red macca" With everyone stating we need to show more ambition etc and moaning that we should be competing with northampton. I read that we still have to run every deal through the league still and with our massive wage bill ( the 3 kidnappers) maybe this could be the reason we are not able to pay to much at the moment Spot on, People forget these people have or will be paying over 3Million just to clear historic debts etc Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: random_five on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:43:50 Dress it up all you like, but if they are serious about their aims to get us into the Championship in 3 years, we can't be getting outbid by the likes of Northampton. Leeds, Forest or Swansea maybe - but not Northampton.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 09:02:38 I think some fans are underestimating the scale of the rebuilding job that needs doing on this club: it's not like a magic wand - "Oh well new guys in charge now so all that off-field stuff is fine now". The club as a business is a total mess which needs a complete rebuild. While in the medium term that obviously has to go hand in hand with progress on the pitch, at the moment (just a few weeks into the new regime, remember) the priority has to be stablising the off-field stuff and rebuilding it into something that looks like a business. This season is mainly about securing that stability, then we can look to push on next season
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 10:13:25 It would be suicide to get promoted this year the club is just not ready on or off the field for Championship football. I think Fitton is doing this the correct way by not throwing cash at it.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: juddie on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 10:32:43 what paul davies said, you can't go from going almost out of business to signing players willy nilly and getting promotion. Spend money like there's no tomorrow and no lessons have been learned - we'll be back in a mess. Build it slowly, get our house in order then lets start talking progression.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Lumps on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 11:29:45 Erm....... Could I point out to people that the plan is for Championship football in 3 years.
We're one promotion away from that, so promotion this season is not a requirement, although it would be a nice bonus. What is needed this season is to clear the decks and to start sorting out the organisation of the club from top to bottom TBH I'd have been a bit worried if after making a load of statements about the need for sound business practices this new board had started throwing money about on transfer fees before they'd even got the debts paid off. If the board work their way through their 10 point plan tick list between now and the start of net season I'll be happy whether we're in league one or the championship. Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 11:36:31 Quote from: "Lumps" Erm....... Could I point out to people that the plan is for Championship football in 3 years. We're one promotion away from that, so promotion this season is not a requirement, although it would be a nice bonus. What is needed this season is to clear the decks and to start sorting out the organisation of the club from top to bottom TBH I'd have been a bit worried if after making a load of statements about the need for sound business practices this new board had started throwing money about on transfer fees before they'd even got the debts paid off. If the board work their way through their 10 point plan tick list between now and the start of net season I'll be happy whether we're in league one or the championship. Agreed. I also cant help but think we'd look like a championship version of Derby if we got promoted this season ie in need of virtually a whole nw team Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 11:37:48 I'm just amazed we are signing players, let alone offering money for them. The ambition being show right now is to get the club back on firm footings.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: red macca on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:13:31 Quote from: "Sussex" fuck off macca. Fuck you you big gayTitle: Im getting pissed off Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:17:07 Quote from: "red macca" Quote from: "Sussex" fuck off macca. Fuck you you big gayOooh, get her. :D Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: red macca on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:18:45 Its over bitch, how many more times do i have to tell you
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 16:49:02 Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?!
This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: adje on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:29:26 Yes,but everyone from Fitton to Malpas and the players have stated that they want Cox to come here.Surely they realise that they would have to pay at least 100k to get him.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:33:51 Can people stop stating random number picked out the air? It just sounds silly.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: ron dodgers on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:46:36 twelvety grand
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:47:22 Quote from: "reeves4england" Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?! This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. Totally agree. Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:49:16 Quote from: "ron dodgers" twelvety grand I've changed my mind. Numbers are fun 57p Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:49:56 £144,650
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:53:25 253 Baht
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: herthab on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:54:27 5 Shekels...........
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 17:55:10 I think we should all change to euros.
LOT'S OF EUROS. (3.14159265358979323846 EUROS) Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: DV on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:00:20 Quote from: "reeves4england" Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?! This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. We'd lose less money if we got more people through the turnstyles We'd get more people through the turnstyles if we won more games We'd win more games if we showed forward ambition We'd show forward ambition by signing Cox Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:04:46 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "reeves4england" Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?! This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. We'd lose less money if we got more people through the turnstyles We'd get more people through the turnstyles if we won more games We'd win more games if we showed forward ambition We'd show forward ambition by signing Cox I don't think that sort of logical process stands up to well DV. You could justify signing everybody, or maybe even murdering the opposition. Or that Sonic Youth was responsible for Vietnam. Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: adje on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:12:34 No,but he did start the second world war
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:15:37 i didn't start the fire
it was always burning since the world's been turning Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: red macca on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:19:26 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "reeves4england" Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?! This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. We'd lose less money if we got more people through the turnstyles We'd get more people through the turnstyles if we won more games We'd win more games if we showed forward ambition We'd show forward ambition by signing Cox Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 18:24:12 macca's gonna get ya.
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: adje on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 16:46:33 I dont think we should sign Cox cos Red Macca's getting pissed off
Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: neville w on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 20:08:03 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "reeves4england" Do people think that we are making a profit all of a sudden now that the Greek one has gone?! This club is still losing money and will do so until it is run sensibly. Spending big wages and transfer fees on players won't help the situation. Getting rid of players who we are wasting money on and gradually building a successful team who can hope at a higher level is what is needed, and seems to be what Fitton is doing. We'd lose less money if we got more people through the turnstyles We'd get more people through the turnstyles if we won more games We'd win more games if we showed forward ambition We'd show forward ambition by signing Cox We'd spend (lose) more money by signing Cox We'd lose more games if Cox thought he'd made it. rather than being hungry on loan We'd get less people through the turnstiles if we lost more games We'd lose more money if we got less people through the turnstiles "logic" works both ways Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 20:10:08 Quote from: "sonic youth" i didn't start the fire it was always burning since the world's been turning If only Johno was around. I miss Johno :( Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 21:17:56 Quote from: "Si Pie" If only Johno was around. I miss Johno :( Johno is still helping to make third world countries a nicer place to live. Good lad. 8) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/sussex_red/johno.jpg Title: Im getting pissed off Post by: axs on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 00:40:52 he fucking knows it's christmas time.
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