Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: dell boy on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 21:08:34 How far will this country bob, bow and weave...
This is England, isn't it .... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7204635.stm Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 21:12:56 hahahahahaha
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 21:33:43 Wiltshire pigs are the tastiest - fact!
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: swindon-chap on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 21:50:56 What a fuckin joke.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:05:52 things like this is old news.
my sister worked in a nursery, a lot of school (if not all) no longer do nativity plays, they no longer use the nursery rhyme, ba ba black sheep. its fucking retarted. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:30:30 Quote from: "Chubbs" things like this is old news. my sister worked in a nursery, a lot of school (if not all) no longer do nativity plays, they no longer use the nursery rhyme, ba ba black sheep. its fucking retarted. Well I very much enjoyed my eldest's nativity play (with full-on baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph and angels, the whole kit and kaboodle) at his school last Christmas, and my youngest loves singing Baa Baa Black Sheep which he learnt and sings regularly at his council-run nursery. There's a lot of shit talked about this - most of it is myth. But clearly whoever took the decision referenced in the original story needs their head slamming in a door repeatedly. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: yeo on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:33:36 I cant believe you would bring your children up in such a way Mr Davis.
You're worse than Hitler Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:34:09 What's a kaboodle?
Just wondering. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:46:09 Quote from: "Oevil red" I cant believe you would bring your children up in such a way Mr Davis. You're worse than Hitler Why do you think he shaved his head?! Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:52:05 I think it's a joke
Surely now they'll have to ban anything involving cows as it might offend Hindus if misinterpreted. In fact, why don't we reject any mention of animal cruelty for the sake of the vegan community, and remove the words black, white, yellow, coloured, foreign (etc) from the english dictionary Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 22:53:37 Quote from: "reeves4england" I think it's a joke Surely now they'll have to ban anything involving cows as it might offend Hindus if misinterpreted. In fact, why don't we reject any mention of animal cruelty for the sake of the vegan community, and remove the words black, white, yellow, coloured, foreign (etc) from the english dictionary u cant say that u racist Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: axs on Thursday, January 24, 2008, 23:55:33 I read that 3 pigs thing yesterday - apparently if offends builders too - because it says they are all pigs and rubbish at building. :-))(
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: flammableBen on Friday, January 25, 2008, 00:18:34 The last big Sun style headline of "Primary School to scared to do Nativity" just ended up being a case of them deciding that the same play every year was a bit dull.
We're supposed to be in a secular society and the majority of the population isn't christian. If people don't want to do nativity plays and such bollocks then fair enough. Same goes for crappy classic fairy tale bollocks. Let them do stuff different with out sensationalist headlines. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: axs on Friday, January 25, 2008, 00:32:10 no problem with people wanting to do different things - the more the better, but don't ban / criticise anything that's gone before it on the off chance it might offend someone. If you start telling people they might be offended then there's more chance there would be than if you'd just not said anything in the first place.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: flammableBen on Friday, January 25, 2008, 02:00:32 I was just saying that the last big play banning that I bothered too look into wasn't banned at all. So I guess what I was saying is don't make big headlines about stuff being banned when it isn't.
Or something I wonder if any schools want to act out my 7 part drama. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: STFCDude2 on Friday, January 25, 2008, 05:01:09 Surprised no one has mentioned that we should probaly change the name of Swindon, in case it affects the Muslims that live here due to the origins of the name.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: herthab on Friday, January 25, 2008, 06:02:20 Sign of the times I'm afraid.
When I was in Junior school there was a book in the school library called 'Three Little Niggers' it had illustrations of black kids being chased up trees by tigers, etc. The book itself was harmless, but the word 'Nigger' is obviously offensive and I doubt the book's still there. Same as the Golliwog badges you could collect by saving tokens off Robertsons jam jars, long gone now as they were offensive to some people. While I accept that there's a big difference between the word 'nigger' and upsetting muslims (No one's ever given a fuck if Jews are offended|) by writing a story with pigs as main characters, who knows what the young people in 20 or 30 years time think. Oh, by the way. Did 9/11 coincide with the release of 'Babe', or 'Babe, Pig in The City'? That may be the real reason Osama's pissed............................ Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:24:49 In schools they are 1. Not allowed to sing baa baa black sheep and have to sing baa baa coloured sheep. 2. They are not allowed to say and use black boards anymore and if they are still used they have to use green ones instead.
The world, esp the uk, has gone pc mad and it pisses me off. Freedom of speech- you 'avin a laff? Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Sussex on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:34:42 White men can't jump.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: dell boy on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:37:10 Quote from: "Sussex" White men can't jump. White men are jumping, out of this country we call home and to pastures new on the continent or elsewhere around the world. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: pauld on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:43:45 Quote from: "Sippo" In schools they are 1. Not allowed to sing baa baa black sheep and have to sing baa baa coloured sheep. 2. They are not allowed to say and use black boards anymore and if they are still used they have to use green ones instead. Erm, that's bullshit. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:45:32 is it?!!!
FACT. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: pauld on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:47:14 See my post above - both my lads sing baa baa black sheep, learnt at council-run nursery.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 25, 2008, 08:54:38 I was shocked but I guess its down to the schools preference. I have known primary schools that won't sing it due to the risk of them being seen unsensitive. Its fookin ridiculous.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: pauld on Friday, January 25, 2008, 09:13:42 Right so some schools are being stupid. That's nothing new. But that's a world away from asserting there's a blanket ban which is somehow imposed on schools by a sinister PC/New Labour conspiracy. Too many people seem to believe these myths of "Schools are banned from [insert "traditional" activity]" which turn out to either be complete fiction or just a few overzealous idiots. If you're looking for schools being genuinely restricted, look at the national curriculum or the climate of fear created by 'elf and safety. Or if you just want to engage in some standard Daily Mail rants based on lazy thinking and half-baked pub talk, carry on with this track.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Cookie on Friday, January 25, 2008, 12:24:10 Watch out, Bigots about
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: red macca on Friday, January 25, 2008, 12:29:54 The problem is that the people who they think could be offended in fact are not, but some busy body thinks that they could be and makes a big hoha out of fuck all. If the killing of Pigs offend people dont move to a large fucking farming country anyway stupid twats
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: ghanimah on Friday, January 25, 2008, 12:33:48 Quote from: "pauld" Right so some schools are being stupid. That's nothing new. But that's a world away from asserting there's a blanket ban which is somehow imposed on schools by a sinister PC/New Labour conspiracy. Too many people seem to believe these myths of "Schools are banned from [insert "traditional" activity]" which turn out to either be complete fiction or just a few overzealous idiots. If you're looking for schools being genuinely restricted, look at the national curriculum or the climate of fear created by 'elf and safety. Or if you just want to engage in some standard Daily Mail rants based on lazy thinking and half-baked pub talk, carry on with this track. Risk Assessments grrrrr. This is nothing new really, I was told a 'kinder' version of Peter and the Wolf at school (a little while ago :D ) where the duck survived, swimming around in a blissful existence, presumably because as little boys we would be rather sensitive to these things yeah right. When I found out the original ending I was more annoyed I was lied too rather than the duck being eaten...nothing wrong with duck with some orange sauce IMO Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, January 25, 2008, 12:55:58 Quote from: "herthab" Sign of the times I'm afraid. When I was in Junior school there was a book in the school library called 'Three Little Niggers' it had illustrations of black kids being chased up trees by tigers, etc. The book itself was harmless, but the word 'Nigger' is obviously offensive and I doubt the book's still there. Same as the Golliwog badges you could collect by saving tokens off Robertsons jam jars, long gone now as they were offensive to some people. I have a similar book called little blacky Sambo that my aunty used to read to me - god I really doubt you would be able to buy it any more! Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Luci on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:00:59 I loved Golliwogs. Was fun to collect them and back then there was obviously no racist intent. Shame how things have blown well out of proportion over the years.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: ghanimah on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:08:40 Quote from: "herthab" Sign of the times I'm afraid. When I was in Junior school there was a book in the school library called 'Three Little Niggers' it had illustrations of black kids being chased up trees by tigers, etc. The book itself was harmless, but the word 'Nigger' is obviously offensive and I doubt the book's still there. Also there's a book by Agatha Christie called 10 Little Niggers that you can't buy anymore, despite that it doesn' t have any black people in it at all. It's now called; - 'and then there were none'. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:26:09 there is one sat right next to me as I am reading this
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: janaage on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:41:25 Quote from: "ghanimah" Quote from: "herthab" Sign of the times I'm afraid. When I was in Junior school there was a book in the school library called 'Three Little Niggers' it had illustrations of black kids being chased up trees by tigers, etc. The book itself was harmless, but the word 'Nigger' is obviously offensive and I doubt the book's still there. Also there's a book by Agatha Christie called 10 Little Niggers that you can't buy anymore, despite that it doesn' t have any black people in it at all. It's now called; - 'and then there were none'. I thought they changed it to 10 little Indians. Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: janaage on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:42:27 Just read they changed it again to then there were none.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Friday, January 25, 2008, 13:44:06 This is a complete non story, it's not like they've banned the thing, they just didn't shortlist it for an award and to be honest it didn't deserve one. Also no-one uses blackboards anymore because they are shit and technology has moved on, the company I work for makes stuff for interactive whiteboards for schools and we do call them whiteboards so it's obviously not a racism issue. Shoo fly who make this 3 pigs thing have very basic stuff and that's the real reason they didn't win anything, it would have been a joke if they had. They are only moaning about now it to try and get some publicity, the awards were weeks ago.
Title: This is England, are you sure Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, January 25, 2008, 14:09:09 Quote from: "Dachauer" there is one sat right next to me as I am reading this Gas him Herman. |