Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 13:57:38 On STFC World. We are now allowed to sign players etc but still need football league approval until all creditors paid at the end of the season. CVA Will be gone and Inland Revenue will be paid by the end of the season, all fine paid, will be debt free by 31st may
http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/sub/Radio/0,,10341~1215903,00.html? I'll give a run down of the STFC World in a min. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:02:21 -Telephone conversation Went very well with Football League
-Dave and Maurice can move forward now -Takeover officially completed today -Agreement made with creditors and inland revenue -League have lifted TOTAL embargo -League have introduced a FLEXIBLE embargo, meaning we have to tell the FL that we have paid creditors etc and get approval from football league to sign players/loans etc -Players could arrive Thursday once signed off by FL on Thursday -Will be officially lifted on Thursday at Football League meeting -CVA will be gone by 31st May -Inland revenue will be gone by 31st May -Football League fines gone by 31st May -By 31st may balance sheet of business will be back in order and 100% clear -League want to see clubs getting themselves sorted out and will be thrilled to lift the Flexible embargo by 31st may. ON ANOTHER NOTE: Inland Revenue I believe was paid today and the CVA to follow shortly. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:04:40 CVA by 31st may?
this is exactly what people were up in arms about with the previous regime and the bloke who was in charge of it (forgotten his name). Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:09:29 Quote from: "lebowski" CVA by 31st may? this is exactly what people were up in arms about with the previous regime and the bloke who was in charge of it (forgotten his name). I think he was saying that all current debts etc will be paid by that time, meaning the CVA could be paid now but all debts will be paid by 31st May. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:12:13 Quote from: "lebowski" CVA by 31st may? this is exactly what people were up in arms about with the previous regime and the bloke who was in charge of it (forgotten his name). Androniku you mean I thought the whole idea was to pay the debts reasonably straight away other than HMRC Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:12:20 isnt that what the old board said as well?
not exactly subscribing to the "clear and transparent" mantra that they've been chanting the last month! oh, and i hope we dont get deducted points! Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:15:50 fitton out.
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:16:29 yeah!
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Northern Red on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:17:31 The embargo being lifted does nothing for the Cup game in case anyone was wondering.
The player must have been at the club for the original game in order to be eligible for the replay... But it's a lovely feeling anyway... Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:20:00 For fuck sake.... ALL DEBTS INCLUDING THE CVA, HMRC etc will be cleared BY the 31t May, The Tax man was paid today, the CVA may be paid next week. It means all the stuff that emerged and god knows how much it is will be paid by then.
Instead of reading it as that people read it as OH THE FUCKING CVA WONT BE PAID UNTIL JUNE NEXT YEAR... typical Swindon fans pick out negative points. If everyone was not in agreement the Embargo would not be lifted. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:19:59 Quote from: "lebowski" isnt that what the old board said as well? not exactly subscribing to the "clear and transparent" mantra that they've been chanting the last month! oh, and i hope we dont get deducted points! Dude we wont be docked points as the administration period and CVA has now not officially failed I think there is one major difference here when it comes to flexibility in varyining the CVA. The main point is that there was no way on this earth that creditors (HMRC) would do any further deals with the old regime, and quite rightly so. The new regime are a completely different kettle of fish with solid investment and superior business accumen. Who would you do a deal with ? Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:21:41 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "lebowski" isnt that what the old board said as well? not exactly subscribing to the "clear and transparent" mantra that they've been chanting the last month! oh, and i hope we dont get deducted points! Dude we wont be docked points as the administration period and CVA has now not officially failed I think there is one major difference here when it comes to flexibility in varyining the CVA. The main point is that there was no way on this earth that creditors (HMRC) would do any further deals with the old regime, and quite rightly so. The new regime are a completely different kettle of fish with solid investment and superior business accumen. Who would you do a deal with ? Thank you Fred. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Northern Red on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:22:43 The embargo being lifted does nothing for the Cup game in case anyone was wondering.
The player must have been at the club for the original game in order to be eligible for the replay... But it's a lovely feeling anyway... Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:24:08 Quote from: "Northern Red" The embargo being lifted does nothing for the Cup game in case anyone was wondering. The player must have been at the club for the original game in order to be eligible for the replay... But it's a lovely feeling anyway... No but Corr will be available. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:25:46 i am merely pointing out that people on here were in uproar when it was said before that the cva would be paid by 31st may, but now it's looked upon totally differently!
if i could find that happy clapper thing then i would use it here. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:27:20 What about Bill Power? Its all gone very quiet on that front ...
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:30:01 I can completely understand that Lebowski, but like I said the previous regime were trying to negotiate from such a weak position (ie: business history and completely skint) that people were up in arms that they had the gall to even attempt it.
We could just see, if they did negotiate, another 5 years of shite This is a completely different situation Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:30:56 Quote from: "dell boy" What about Bill Power? Its all gone very quiet on that front ... I have this feeling that will be settled out of court Dell Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:32:22 Quote from: "lebowski" i am merely pointing out that people on here were in uproar when it was said before that the cva would be paid by 31st may, but now it's looked upon totally differently! i have no idea why you're even trying to compare the two.if i could find that happy clapper thing then i would use it here. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:33:26 how convenient.
hey ho. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:35:54 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" I can completely understand that Lebowski, but like I said the previous regime were trying to negotiate from such a weak position (ie: business history and completely skint) that people were up in arms that they had the gall to even attempt it. We could just see, if they did negotiate, another 5 years of shite This is a completely different situation you are of course absolutely right. the previous lot had no credibility among the majority, whilst the current lot have the benefit of the doubt after some good PR. there will be some cynicism though, trust has to be earnt. and that is all i am saying. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:38:06 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "dell boy" What about Bill Power? Its all gone very quiet on that front ... I have this feeling that will be settled out of court Dell It would be the best way for both parties thats for sure. Regarding the pay offs of all other debts, I believe they have handled this in a very professional way and I've never felt so up being a Swindon fan in bloody years. :D Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:40:28 Agreed Lebowski
proof of the pudding is in the eating However, it smells fucking good at the moment Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:41:14 Quote from: "dell boy" Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "dell boy" What about Bill Power? Its all gone very quiet on that front ... I have this feeling that will be settled out of court Dell It would be the best way for both parties thats for sure. Regarding the pay offs of all other debts, I believe they have handled this in a very professional way and I've never felt so up being a Swindon fan in bloody years. :D Amen to that brother Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:41:28 :mrgreen:
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:43:33 E-I-E-I-E-I-O ??? :D
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:43:59 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Agreed Lebowski proof of the pudding is in the eating However, it smells fucking good at the moment Like treacle tart pudding??! :) Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:45:58 Nah
better than that mate :mrgreen: Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:48:10 Apple crumble?
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:49:25 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" E-I-E-I-E-I-O ??? :D not this season, I wouldn't think. And anyway everytime we sing that song the other team end up scoring 8) Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:49:40 Blackberry and apple crumble with cream, ice cream AND custard
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:51:58 you can't have cream, ice-cream and custard. Thats wrong. Custard all the way.
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:53:36 all 3 mate, all 3
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: janaage on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 14:59:54 Anyone every have rice pudding with custard. Absolutely lovely!! Custard must be thick though, and rice pud needs nutmeg!!
With regards to AF sorting out the debt, effin fantastic!!! The man is a legend, I don't care being accused of blind faith the man has saved our club. Oh and no more Bob Holt bs. :beers: Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: santini on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:01:33 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Blackberry and apple crumble with cream, ice cream AND custard Mmmmmm ... mouthgasm :mrgreen: Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: yeo on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:07:37 I think lebowski is right to question.
Im not suggesting that we start a campaign to get rid of Fitton or anything but all that has happened is some new people have come in (of whom nobody really knows anything)and mde a whole set of new promises to act by a certain date and Swindon fans have decided to take them at their word.As far as can see not alot has really changed,we're told to "trust" this lot but personally I think trust needs earning. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: janaage on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:12:07 I think the reason most are happy is the fact that we now have three men involved who do have the money to get us out of the financial trouble.
I see no benefit in questioning their every move over the first few months. Trust does have to be earned, but we already have them to thank for ridding us of the drip feeders who really did not have the backing to drive the club forward. I'm glad that it's not a white wash on here and we're all going crazy about the takeover, but compare the 15 January to the 15 November and I think we can all agree that the future is looking a heck of a lot better. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:12:12 Quote from: "Oevil red" I think lebowski is right to question. Im not suggesting that we start a campaign to get rid of Fitton or anything but all that has happened is some new people have come in (of whom nobody really knows anything)and mde a whole set of new promises to act by a certain date and Swindon fans have decided to take them at their word.As far as can see not alot has really changed,we're told to "trust" this lot but personally I think trust needs earning. To certain extent I agree. Trust does need to be earned, however the right noises are being made to suggest that the trust is going to develop. The fact that Mr Fitton has pretty much cleared up what everyone is goign to do at the club is a good thing, how many years did it take before the existence if Diamandis was ever confirmed. I also get the impression that unlike the previous regime if we do need a few quid, they actually have it, which Wills et al never had. Fitton's longstanding and committed attempts to by the club fill me with confidence too. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:22:52 I can Lebowski/Oevil's point about 31st May.
But just consider the fact that Mr Fitton has taken control from today, that gives him 136 days to pay it. The last lot had 5 years. Can you see what people are getting at now? Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:23:38 the main thing with the new board and the old lot are things are actually being done and being done in the right manner.
bills being cleared, embarGO being lifted etc. these are big things for STFC as it was these certain items which could have seen us wound up. as for now going out to buy players, spend this, spend that etc i'm more than happy with a couple of loan players and then build for next season which when the current boards true metal will shine through. to get us out this league and to try and get us established as a decent championship club Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: yeo on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:29:32 Ok what I mainly dont understand is if these people are so minted why do they need 3 months to find the money?
I'm not slating them and im glad they've taken over but surely this is the million dollar question thats not being asked?If they have the money to pay it in May why havent they got it now? I know I sound like a bit of a Bart here but its better to question than follow along blindly surely.. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:33:28 Quote from: "Oevil red" Ok what I mainly dont understand is if these people are so minted why do they need 3 months to find the money? I'm not slating them and im glad they've taken over but surely this is the million dollar question thats not being asked?If they have the money to pay it in May why havent they got it now? I know I sound like a bit of a Bart here but its better to question than follow along blindly surely.. I wonder the same thing mate. Although maybe they have good reason for it, and considering that are far better quailfied than myself at these things, I'll just accept that they know what they are doing. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: janaage on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:35:03 Standard business practice isn't it, they are paying off the debts one by one, starting with the tax man, therefore our money stays with us longer, accruing interest etc.
I am purely speculating here btw, I have no understanding of how businesses work at all. Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: axs on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:39:00 I think is fucking fantastic news, it's all starting to come together, bills are being paid, embargo lifted and I'm chuffed to bits.
:beers: Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 15:45:23 Quote from: "Oevil red" Ok what I mainly dont understand is if these people are so minted why do they need 3 months to find the money? I'm not slating them and im glad they've taken over but surely this is the million dollar question thats not being asked?If they have the money to pay it in May why havent they got it now? I know I sound like a bit of a Bart here but its better to question than follow along blindly surely.. you beat me to it.was going to ask the same thing. lebowski's point was perfectly valid too imo. that said, i am no longer nervous about the clubs future Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: neville w on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 16:19:40 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Nah better than that mate :mrgreen: Spotted Dick, given your lifestyle ? :wink: Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 16:26:29 Just a thought, but maybe they want to sort a few things out before paying the debts? They might decide to look for areas where we are being inefficient (the wages of certain players for a very small start) in order to cut back and save money rather than charge in and needlessly pay out of their own pockets.
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 17:01:56 Quote from: "janaage" Standard business practice isn't it, they are paying off the debts one by one, starting with the tax man, therefore our money stays with us longer, accruing interest etc. . I think you hit the nail on the head there. Why do you think people wait for 2nd red letters etc as well... so the money gains more interest in your own account! Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 17:52:03 It's very positive. If someone had said we'd have all debts paid by the end of May this year a few months back we would have laughed our socks off. Great news. Hopefully some new faces before Saturday's game as well.
Title: ANDREW FITTON UPDATE: EMBARGO OFFICIALLY LIFTED Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 17:56:34 The custard should have a thick skin too. Prerequisite with afters at STFC.
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