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I see that Byrne is saying that there have been more enquiries for Brez from Championship and premiership clubs.

I think at this point in time it would be promotional suicide to sell him, here we have a keeper who is at the top of his game playing extremely well and someone who every players has confidence in.

If we keep him then surely he is still worth just as much if not more at the end of the season, and if he is part of a promotion winning team or a team that just missed out of play-off's then his value will only rise.

If we sell then we have to find another keeper, even if Smith is nearly fit, that does not know the team so has to get used to and every player takes time to settle in and we would not have time to scout keepers as we would need one straight away if he goes.

So I suppose what I'm saying is as we do not desperately need money then keep him until the end of the season when there may be more clubs interested and increase his value.

WE ARE NO LONGER A SELLING CLUB WE ARE TOLD

if we have championship ambitions then keeping players like brez,ifil. and adding players like cox should push us in the right direction

We will always be a selling club, every club below the very top level always will be to one extent or another.

What works in our favour is the newfound financial stability means we dont have to sell to try and stay in business, meaning we can ask for better fees for our better players.

I'd sell him for a million if that million went back into team building

What if Reading came in for him with £1M + Cox? Would you sell?

Id drive him there myself, Smith is perefectly adequate when fit

I would if the £1M (or most of it) went back into rebuilding the team especially as P.Smith is pretty decent himself and we could strengthen in other areas.

If selling Brez means that we could strengthen the team in 2-3 areas then it's a no brainer....sell him.

At least now Fitton is running things we wont get ripped off like we usually do at Swindon.

Brez will be sold as soon as Phil Smith is fit and thats about 1 week away ...

expect a bid for Jerel as well ...

lottery numbers?

fatbury in calculated guess shocker :shock:  :wink:

But Smith isn't fit at the moment so selling Brez would surely be the wrong decision.

I think if we get offered £1m then we are under selling him, he must be worth a minimum of £1.5m, so surely to force us to sell now with no backup keeper the deal should be £2m with add-on's - a record fee for STFC, anything less and I think it would be the wrong move.

I think £1m would be a cracking price for Brez. I'd love him to stay because I think he is a great keeper, but you have to be realistic. We are a small loss making club. I think Fitton wants us on an even keel.

The best thing about having a few clubs interested is we can now play them off each other and probably get a fair whack for him. To be fair, I think we'd be stupid to turn a sum like £2M down.

As much as i rate brez and think he is quality i think alot of people forget he is 28 years old and i dont think we would get a much better fee for him this time next year for example

No way, still have flash backs to Peterborough away (was it), flapping away all afternoon one early 90's Sunday.

It would make sense to sell if the offer was £1m up front, not £250k plus add ons, a flat mill and we'd have a deal.  Be sad to see him go as we haven't seen the best of him since injury, would love him to get back to his best then go (for the right price).

I wouldnt let him go for nothing less then 2 million :x

But goal keepers play on for a lot longer than out field players do, so these days a lot can carry on until they are 38-40, unlike outfield players who reach 35 and are considered an old man

If we sell you know it will be undisclosed

Hopefully under Fitton  / Malpas we can have a bit of honestly and no more undiscolsed sales

Is there interview were byrne speaks about brez and intrest from other clubs? :?

i think phil smith is a dude.

On the OS there is.

But there are good reasons for an undisclosed fee at the time of sale. Like protecting the fact that you have just got £1m (e.g.)  to spend on replacement players - thus ensuring every bid we make isn't met with 'you've got more than that'.

Agree with Jan re: selling him for installments - they are a no no.

Ill easily be happy with a striaght swap for Cox.  
But we may as well get used to it, Brezovan is going to be sold.

So you value Brez at £200k?  Are you insane?

Brev is worth a mill at least, if not more if Premier League clubs are interested.

To me he's worth at least 750,000k, but I just can't see us getting 1 million for a him.
I wouldn't be surprise if he's got a release clause.

we wont get a mill for brez.i reckon £700,000 tops.
if all the money recieved goes back into the team. then i dont mind who gets sold.

keeping brez would be a nice statement of intent from fitton. smith is a more than capable replacement though.

in summary i'm not too fussed

I'd be astonished if we manage to keep both Brez and Smith - they're both easily first choice keepers at this level and neither is going to be happy with biding their time as number two. Given that, and that of the two of them Brez is more saleable and will fetch more, and he knows it, we're going to struggle to keep him if a fair offer is made.

£750,000+ and I would sale him, providing Phil Smith is 100% match fit at the time

Yeah-but when have we ever spent money on replacement players?

BUY BUY BUY!

Dont care who offers what, its about time STFC grew some testicles and told teams to fuck off.

Brez is a good keeper and you wont find many better at this level  now he's back on form....he's only going to get better.

Selling him would not improve our team or squad. It would be a step backwards.

No Deal!

I'd sell Brez but only if the price was right. In other words 1mill at least or they can all fuck off. With that amount it wouldn't be hard to find a half decent replacment. Probably only need 250k for a decent keeper at this level.

What he said.

If we want to be in the Championship in 3 years then we need a championship quality keeper.

Phil Smith returned to training today incidentally.

would you sell him to a club which allows us to have him back on loan for the rest of the season? If he does move to a championship/premiership club i can see him only warming the bench

Sell him.

Smithy Rules!

dammit :groan1:  I keep getting the wrong tense

People talking £2m are way too high in my opinion.  I'd accept around £750k, provided it was used for squad strengthening.  As others have said keeping Smith and Brez is a bit greedy, I think Smith would only settle for second choice when he thinks back to Crawley 18 months ago and realises where he is now.  Personally I can't see it happening in the window as it would seem unlikely to have Smith 100% match fit by then, even if he is training, one little set back and we'd be buggered.

on the vague subject of phil smith...

on sunday i woke and put on the tele, it was that something for the weekend program. they showed a clip from an old program, "back to the floor" i think it was, from where theo pathitis first took over at millwall and he was going around helping out the match day catering, and then training catering. first in line for his gruel was a young phil smith.

actually it might have been a couple of sunday's ago, i can't really remember.

Sell him. Get the money. Snith does a fine job.

when i read the story the first thing i thought was that we are trying to encourage a bidding war.

a club is closing in on him. don't miss out. show us the money.

i honestly think we could get £1million+ for brezovan.

that is over a quarter of our annual turnover.

plus, phil smith is a more than adequate goalkeeper.

in fact he's brilliant.

we are very lucky.

it's a shame neither will be around for a lengthy period of time such is football nowadays :(

Regardless of how good Phil Smith is....

Selling Brez wont improve the team

Brez + Smith is better than Smith + Youth Keeper.

WHY? do some of you want to sell him. At the moment he is an important first team player in our pretty good back 5.

We gain NOTHING from selling him and we lose a fucking good keeper, a first teamer and one fifth of our solid back line.

In the unlikely event that we got the money upfront and spent it on better outfield comments, then your statement would be incorrect.

no it wouldnt.

i want to sell him to piss DV off

500,000+ and I'd sell him, there's plenty of solid reserve keepers about.

Brez has longer arms than Smith-keep him

And being 6 ft 7 helps as well.............

did he have hair back then? :)

I'm not sure whether I find DV's "never sell anyone under any circumstances for any ammount of money even if they want to go" stance entertaining for its naivety or just annoying.

Its worth considering that if a premier league club wants him then Brez may want to go, and who could blame him really. As is often said, you cant keep an unhappy player at a club. They are only human beings, if they are unhappy and dont want to be here then they are unlikley to play to their potential

I think we should keep him until the end of the season unless we get offered around 1.5 million up front. We should also only sell him to a top club. NOT DIRTY LEEDS!!!
If we want promotion we need a top class keeper and we need two good goalkeepers competing for the shirt!

I have to say as much as I dont see the point of selling Brez .. if we can get half a mil it is worth it

as long as it goes into new player purchases

we could then get Rhys back from Blackpool for zilch and we still have Phil Smith as well

no thanks

How many fish do you catch per thread, fatters? I have to say, the bait is pretty good.

As said previously to sell Brez now I think we should only sell him if an absolutely irresistable offer is made he must be worth around £1m in today's market so if someone comes in and offers £1.5 then ok consider it, and include add on clauses, and if it is a team in L1 or looking at relegation or L1 then it is not going to be that bigger a team so don't sell.

End of the season he will be worth the same and we will then have 2 fit keepers

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

I would quite happily take Rhys Evans back in a flash and then proceed to tell him how shite he is.  8)

I dont give a fuck what Brez wants.

Its whats best for STFC and in my opinion having Peter Brezovan in goal for STFC is better than having 500k in the bank.

Not if he starts throwing the ball into his own net it isn't.

I do agree though. I think we should keep him. And lets face it, there's no reason not to now is there? And in any case, it's not even been reported that he wants to go.

I think we're now in a safe position not to sell him i.e we have the funds to go out and buy players without having to sell first.

well anyone questioning Rhys' ability should remember he left here as our player of the season in League 1 ..

everytime a team does really shit the keeper usually gets it anyway

Let's sell Brez, get Rhys back and shut that fatbury cunt up  :mrgreen:

And since when has being STFC's Player of the Season been a bench mark of quality then fatboy? I mean, one season (I think it was the end of the 99/00 season) I actually voted for Gareth Hall as Player of the Season...I mean...Gareth effing Hall!!!! I think I voted for him on the basis that he kicked the ball really well once during a warm up or the fact that he was always really well turned out. You know, his shirt was always tucked in and that sort of thing.

Player of the Season.... :roll: .......Give me a break :?

You don't half talk some bollocks.

Fatters, we know you love Rhys Evans because you thought he was ace when he was 10 or however old he was when you coached him. He may well have been the best kiddie keeper you've ever coached, but (as I think I may have pointed out before) how many other pro keepers have you coached at kiddie level? You don't have much basis of comparison do you?

And he's shit.

Brezovan to Spurs to replace that donkey Robinson :wink:

I'd sell him for £1m up front. There is absolutely no point in keeping Smith and Brez.

As for the suggestion of Rhys Evans, whether it was tongue in cheek or not, I honestly think he'd be perfectly adequate as a reserve keeper behind Phil Smith.

Obviously I don't want to see Brez go, and would only want it to be to a decent club, but at the end of the day our whole squad has probably cost us less than £1m in transfer fees. It is a lot of money at this level

there is every point in keeping both, they both had had long term injuries, luckily not at the same time

if brez goes for a million, then there's enough money to buy 3 new players

remember fitton did say the club was going to be run like a business and the above looks like good business sense, as much of a shame it would be to lose brezovan

at fault for their first goal.

smith wouldn't have spilt that shot.

sell him.

I think you'll find that it was Comminges not clearing the ball into touch that caused their goal.

Agreed, it was a reflex save that he did well to get to. Can pick at him for not pushing it to the side or not holding it. Comminges had plenty of time before deciding to do nothing.

I thought it was a decent save to be honest...he might have been able to get down quicker for the rebound, but if the minge had kicked it out, he never would have had to

if he had pushed it away from goal, and not directly into the path of their striker then there wouldnt be a discussion here.

i know he's a fans favourite, and does little wrong, but let's have it right here.

sell.

Yawn  :roll:

If Smith was a better keeper Prem clubs would be looking at him, they aren't so end of story really. Comminge was at fault for the goal and where were the centre backs for the rebound......lets sell Ifil too for not being there  :roll:

well that's strange, it was only a week or so ago that you were crucifying the likes of kaid for small inconsequential errors, yet today you won't have a bad word said against brezovan.

how bizarre.

 :?

Its the gospel according to Glos Robin, no other persons opinion is worthy!!! :roll:

:cry:

Slightly missing the point.  Yes, Brezovan could have done better, but the situation arose because Comminges tried to shepherd the ball out when there wasn't enough pace to carry it out.  He lost the ball, the cross was made and the goal was scored. If he'd done what was required and hit it out the situation wouldn't have developed.

It wasn't an error is was a decent enough stop. The fact your post intimated that we should sell Brez because you believed he made a mistake is fickle.......so is that our new transfer policy, one mistake and your gone?

Brez has proved he is a good player Kaid has proven sweet FA.

so to summarise, there was still a lot to do after miguel's error?

ok, glad we got that sorted.

Dear me.  There really was't much elapsed time between Comminges losing the ball in a needlessly dangerous way and the goal being scored.  The goal was caused because he didn't do his job.  Brezovan could have done better perhaps, but its best to avoid chances being created if that's possible.  Would you agree?

Bottom line then Jim, it was a defensive fuck up?

He was the only one left though really wasnt he? Who else would have got it? He cant get anywhere near Blackpools starting XI even in L1 last season...

a goalkeeper should know where to parry a ball that he cannot hold on to.

would you agree?

Dear me. I was really reacting to your OTT initial post.

If every one in every situation did their job to the absolute we would have a stalemate.  I guess tthe thing we should ask is that players mitigate the risk by clearing the ball when thats the obvious thing to do rather than taking unnecessary risks which lead to undesired outcomes (that means a goal in this instance).

so we agree then.

thank god.

good result eh jim?

Whilst  the goal was undoubtedly Comminges fault for failure to nip the situation in the bud, however I  can't help feeling Brez wull look at the goal and feel he should have done a little better, I don't think it was that well hit.  Similarly there was a few times toady when i thought Brez could have caught crosses and chose to parry, we got away with it today, however it seems to fall to a man on the edge ofthe box far too often, and eventually we'll get punished.  Not that its any reason to drop or sell him.

Do you mean that the good result is that we agree or that we drew.  I think if Comminges had cleared the ball we would have won  :wink:

:mrgreen:

Typically succinct - it was just unnecessary.

Maybe Brez could have done better, but for starters as its been said the ball shouldnt have even made it into the box and secondly why was there two Walsall players standing in the 6 yard box both waiting to tap it in without a black shirt anywhere near them....

in summary, sell them both.

I think we should sell all our players whenever they make a mistake. Or even if they didn't

How much would we get for Fitton?

I bet you're a bundle of laughs to have a pint with? :soapy tit wank:

Not sure I get your point - I agreed with you and congratulated you on your brevity.

My mistake, just looked up the wod succinct, bit of a thicko you see. :oops:

BACK OFF MAN! jim's a legend.

the only reason he didn't leave before was because he didn't want to go.
sorry if mentioned already but didn't read all thread.
£600,000 was offered previously by the way....

My son!

Mwah!

A few 'ifs'  coming up

IF  we could get £1m for Brezovan
IF  we can get Cox for £200k
IF  all monies received can be spent on players

WHY wouldn't we sell Brez for 5 Cox equivalents ?  Seems like a good exchange rate.

cox in goal? good one, we would still needs a keeper.
if we are to challenge for playoffs we need someone better than smith

theres nothing wrong with smith, he is good enough to be out first team keeper.

We could get another non-league keeper in for cover. Seems to do the trick  :wink:

Billy Turley ??

i dont think he is, he may be good enough in the position we are in now but not if we want to progress.

What is it with people and Phil Smith? He's hardly ever made a mistake and he certainly has never let is down whilst making vital saves to keep us in/win games. And yet he's still 'not good enough' Why not FFS???

Sorry Chubbs me old mucker, but I disagree, and think Smith is perfectly adequate and could make a step up if/when required.

I still love you though.

Thats your're to guys opinions and i have mine, no need to get your nickers in a twist OST.

I just dont think PS has the confidence or composure when it comes to pressure, and trying to push for a spot in play offs will come with lots of pressure, something i think is one of brez's strengths.

And what evidence do you have of this?

you can tell the best of times when playing a normal league game his body language and hesitation, so im sure its no diferent under pressure.

Just seen the highlights and I have to say Brez was poor on the second goal -he should be gobbling up crosses like that.This isn't an anti-Brez post,I'd still like to think we will keep him.

I woul dlike us to keep him but Smith for me iis still the better keeper....he may not have the promise Brez has got but at the moment I think hes better all round.

Brez has been at fault for several goals hes let in since his return.

And TBH if we can get £1mill for Brez then I would take it and invest it back into the team...if Mr Fitton is true to his word, every player at every club has his price...even Ronaldo at Man Ure has a price.

Brez has made a few positional mistakes (e.g the goal for Barnet)and Phil Smith for me is the more consistant. Brez has the height advantage though at corners and crosses. I do not think there is much between them.

Even the Adver are reporting the Spurs rumour this morning  :-))(

we seem determined to sell him -- otherwise why would we be banging on about it so much??

somebody must have read this thread

Haha, you go off on a right spaz if someone slags Zaboub off.

we saw chris hughton leaving the CG after the brighton match, our initial thoughts was he mightve been there for an interview for the job, but you never know he mightve been watching brez.

he got let go with jol though