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Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:49:17
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3033322,00.html

hehehehehe


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:50:00
mistake imo.that is one hard job to manage that club


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:50:01
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:52:30
I am shocked, most of the supporters were behind him and backed him to turn it round. It will cost a fortune to get rid of his backroom staff


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:52:45
Thats a discrace, that club and its fans are meant to be immense but to me I hope they now get relegated, no loyalty! wankers


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:52:45
u knew it was going to happen since they got beat 4-1 at home by Portsmouth, they were 3-0 down after 12 mins though.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:54:08
Problem is though their fans actually think they should be winning the league  :-))(  No wonder Big Sam didn't get a chance. As soon as the fans kick up a fuss there so does the chairman.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:56:48
I think its a mistake but you cant say you didnt see it coming with those impatient geordies.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:56:54
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Problem is though their fans actually think they should be winning the league .


that I am afraid is media-spin bollocks


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:58:00
to be fair the current chairman didnt hire Allardyce. Shepherd did. Shearer? I think it's too soon.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 17:59:17
He'll get a Championship job before the end of the season.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:00:25
Need to be a big name, but what big name manager will want it? I cannot see it to be honest :disapprove:
Waste of time sacking him should have been given 2 years at least and needed money to rebuild as that team is the worst NUFC team I have ever seen


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:02:45
applied.

Sturrock to Newcastle

Mo whathisface to Newcastle

Wise to Newcastle

Byrne and Williams to Newcastle

etc...etc..


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:04:52
I think they'll go for a foreign manager next, or go for one of their own and hire a sweatie......................


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:05:19
Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza"
to be fair the current chairman didnt hire Allardyce. Shepherd did. Shearer? I think it's too soon.


   I'd love it if Shearer got the job....love it.

   PS....because his punditry fucking annoys me.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:08:01
Quote from: "Dachauer"
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Problem is though their fans actually think they should be winning the league .


that I am afraid is media-spin bollocks


What so Newcastle fans signing negative songs at Wigan was the media was it?


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:10:01
The majority were singing "we're shit and we're sick of it" -not anti-Sam, the minority were calling for Sam to go


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:10:37
Well either way i seem to developing a hatred for that club.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:11:12
Some people do


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: juddie on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:14:05
Newcastle are now a laughing stock. They'll have to pay millions to pay off big sam and his entourage. I'd love alan shearer to take the job and take them down, they deserve it!


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:14:50
I see Newcastle as the England of the Premier League. Often seen as underachievers but they're not really that good.

I'm sure they'll get a sexy european manager in, as is the fashion of the times.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:31:58
I bet big Sam is wishing he hadn't "ruled himself out" of the England job now   :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 18:57:26
The thing thing that makes me laugh about stottie united is this "we need to play a certain way" bollocks.

why?

its been a roaring fucking success so far. "ooh we should play like we did under keegan" yeah go on then. you won fuck all then too. stupid geordies.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 19:12:29
Poor old Tozer!


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 19:19:25
Quote from: "Berniman"
Poor old Tozer!


 He'll be on the fourth manager of his professional career and its only 6 months old.   Tails is this a record?


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 20:43:34
ooh, reg feels marginalised.

newcastle are shit. allardyce is a decent manager. shearer will get them relegated.

gogo alan shearer (to the tune of gogo power rangers)


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 21:03:09
they've just had some geordies on 5live, both think mourinho should get the job.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 22:10:18
Massive club my arse. We've won far more over the past 40 years than they have.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 22:17:50
Quote from: "sonic youth"
ooh, reg feels marginalised.

newcastle are shit. allardyce is a decent manager. shearer will get them relegated.

gogo alan shearer (to the tune of gogo power rangers)


they'd never get relegated with Shearer in charge....


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 22:21:23
Five Live is currently pure gold, mad high pitched whingy Geordies talking faster and faster the more mad they get!!!


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 22:25:00
Quote from: "sonic youth"
ooh, reg feels marginalised.



 Paul D thought Tails showed promise as a Reglet.....I'm trying to encourage him.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: adje on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 08:57:03
I hope those bleating,where were you when you weren't in the Prem Geordie muppets get their Golden Boy and he takes them down.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 09:07:52
I can't see Harry Redknapp (the bookies favourite) taking the job, he's settled as down near Bournemouth.   Last time I was down there my mate showed me his house down on the water, blimin lovely.  I wouldn't move up north to take that job for all the money in the world.  Lovely pad.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Tails on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 09:43:16
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
ooh, reg feels marginalised.



 Paul D thought Tails showed promise as a Reglet.....I'm trying to encourage him.


Can I have your extra cool jumpers then?  :mrgreen:


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: red macca on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 12:30:13
Glad he got sacked i hate the twat.

Very very over rated imo


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: neville w on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 12:56:33
He got his advantage by being the first to really go in for all the sports  science stuff compared to other clubs. With that, and some useful wheeling and dealing in the loans market he allowed Bolton to punch way over their weight for a few years.

Trouble is, others have cottoned on to the same methods, and his advantage hs been eroded.

Combine that with a bunch of players unused to him as a manager, and a chairman who thinks the fans know more than he does, and it was a recipe for disaster.

If Newcastle had been winning scrappily, there's no way this would have happened, it's just that they're not winning, full stop.

There are at least 3 worse teams in the division, that's their only comfort.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 13:07:08
the table says there are 9 worse teams.


luducirous saking IMO. I dont really know what Newcastle as a club were expecting after 6 months with him in charge - challenge the top 4?  they need to pull their collective heads out of their arses, they are a mid table side with a few good players some of whom are constantly injured.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: DMR on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 13:29:14
Quote from: "pauld"
Massive club my arse. We've won far more over the past 40 years than they have.


Exactly.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: red macca on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 13:30:21
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
the table says there are 9 worse teams.


luducirous saking IMO. I dont really know what Newcastle as a club were expecting after 6 months with him in charge - challenge the top 4?  they need to pull their collective heads out of their arses, they are a mid table side with a few good players some of whom are constantly injured.
Not ludicrous at all young colin . He was not appointed by ashley who in turn has given him half a season and has seen enough to determine that he is not what he wants in charge of his club like we have said about fitton he has the right to do that.

Added to the fact that all his signings have turned out to be shit and allardyce has gone asking for more money I don’t think I can blame Ashley

On a separate note 6 out of those 9 teams below Newcastle have also changed there managers


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 14:15:33
Exactly! Half a season to turn around a club that has been in decline then full scale dissaary for the best part of a decade. And they are still 11th!

Of course its Ashleys club so he can basically do what he likes, I dont particually like Allerdyce as a man either, but his record at Bolton was superb considering they get some of the smallest crowds in the league.

Look at all the teams between the big 4 and Newcstle currently. All have had significant investment and the managers have been given time and money to put THEIR side together before being judged.   NUFC is a joke of a club, I hope they go down so I can laugh my tits off at them


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: red macca on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 14:30:36
Quote from: "Colin Todd"
Exactly! Half a season to turn around a club that has been in decline then full scale dissaary for the best part of a decade. And they are still 11th!

Of course its Ashleys club so he can basically do what he likes, I dont particually like Allerdyce as a man either, but his record at Bolton was superb considering they get some of the smallest crowds in the league.

Look at all the teams between the big 4 and Newcstle currently. All have had significant investment and the managers have been given time and money to put THEIR side together before being judged.   NUFC is a joke of a club, I hope they go down so I can laugh my tits off at them
Its this that annoys me about him which I suppose is not really his fault but everyone bangs on about how well he done at Bolton with hardly any cash  but seriously when you look at it the following players were not on peanuts were they and the majority were signed on frees so obviously the reason he did not spend big fees were because the wages took up most of his budget  

Dioff
Anelka
Speed
Campo
Djorkaeff (whatever)
Okocha

That’s a big wage bill I would imagine


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 14:37:23
a stupidly high percentage of allardyces signings at bolton made 1 appearance or less. Questions how good he is at wheeling and dealing really if he can get it wrong so many times


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 14:38:08
Really hope Redknapp doesn't take the job, he's one of the very best managers in the premiership but it would be a big mistake. They have completely unrealistic expectations and Portsmouth have a better team anyway.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 16:10:41
it will be keegan with a little help from shearer, wait and see


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 16:27:25
Quote from: "kaufman"
it will be keegan with a little help from shearer, wait and see


thats what I was thinking. I wouldn't mind Klinsmann - play nice attacking football-  but that would be totally unlikely


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: adje on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 16:35:47
Along with Allardyce,Redknapp is one of the most overrated managers in the Prem imo


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: Tails on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 16:51:39
Bollocks.

Redknapp is a quality manager and its fucking easy to see that. Trouble is seems when anyone does well for themselves and people praise them they are overrated nowadays.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: red macca on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 16:58:17
allardyce is though tails

I don’t like Newcastle but I don’t think what the fans expect is unrealistic they have spent a shit load on players more than any of the teams out side the top 4


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: adje on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 17:03:16
Bollocks back Tails-Redknapp's won fuck all at the top level and that's even easier to see!


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: lebowski on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 20:34:40
Quote from: "Dachauer"
Quote from: "kaufman"
it will be keegan with a little help from shearer, wait and see


thats what I was thinking. I wouldn't mind Klinsmann - play nice attacking football-  but that would be totally unlikely

why would jurgen want to join a second rate joke of a club like newcastle united?

last season one current premiership club went 12 or 13 games without a victory. they didn't sack their manager, they stood by him, and now they are reaping the rewards as the team are doing well, and a fair few of their players are being backed to play for england.

well done to aston villa and martin o'neill.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 20:36:43
Hear Hear.  Would deadly Doug have been so tolerant, methinks not.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: lebowski on Thursday, January 10, 2008, 20:39:02
all mike ashley has done is prove that he is a weak man who will bow down to public and media pressure.

he comes across as being desperate to be loved.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: RobertT on Friday, January 11, 2008, 00:26:55
I'm quite happy the shit got sacked to be honest, much like Macca.  The quicker his reputation is torn to little bits the better, at least so he can never be mentioned in the same breath as England Manager ever again.  His style of football absolutely deserves to end-up producing shit results so the Bolton period was annoying as hell (didn't help that it combined both Bolton and Allardyce, 2 of my pet hates in football).  It's people with his attitude that have helped England be a much shitter football Nation than we have to be given the level of undoubted interest and support the sport gets here.

I am desperate for an English Manager to get a team to play like Arsenal and do it with some English players in the team.  If sods like Sam continue to be a success we'd never get there, he has much the same approach to football as Wilkinson did and I can't stand him either.

ps, I don't mind the off field focus on players diet and fitness etc, it's the stuff on the pitch and his general persona.

pps, there has to be some doubt about the way he was getting some of the players into Bolton given his son was selling most of them to him, which probably explains the many one hit wonders they had on top of the ones that did make a difference.


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: DMR on Friday, January 11, 2008, 08:56:48
I can't stand Allardyce and I think Newcastle a are bunch of deluded fuckers, they've been shit for ages - look at their squad! No-one in a million years would win bugger all with that squad, there's more gash than your average brothel.

Needless to say I am pleased by this situation. I hope Shearer takes the job and takes them down 'cos he's a knob too.

 8)


Title: Allardyce sacked
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 16:26:04
Quote from: "kaufman"
it will be keegan with a little help from shearer, wait and see



well i've got half right so far

 8)