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Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 15:55:11
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League One club Southend United have made a £250,000 bid for Plymouth Argyle's out-of-favour striker Rory Fallon.

It is believed the Pilgrims have accepted the offer for the 25-year-old, although there has been no confirmation of that from the club.

Fallon was signed for Argyle by former boss Ian Holloway from Swansea City for £300,000 last January.

He has made only nine starts for the Pilgrims since then, plus 21 substitute appearances, and scored a total of three goals.

Southend previously tried to sign Fallon when he moved from Swindon to Swansea in January 2006.


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Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:05:27
I'm not liking the look of Sturrock getting in a war chest....apparently Ipswich have bid a mil for Norris....who incidentally  :king: tried to sign for us, he even went to a pre session training thing.

   We know Sturrock and his liking  of an old player...who could cut it at CCC level.  Ifil Brez Comminges Cox.    Cox and Ifil would be the real worry.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:07:22
£250k for Fallon, jeez that's a lot of money for a striker unproven at Championship level, and a striker who only really had 6 good months in League 1.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: fatbury on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:16:15
bargain .. wish it was us paying it ..


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:21:03
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:27:13
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


who in our current squad is?
brez,ifil maybe?of the rest, maybe one or two but generally no.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: janaage on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:31:06
I haven't said they are Arriba, but I would like to think that we will start getting in a higher calibre of player when we get some fundage behind us.  Not just replace the chaff with more dross.

It's time to look upwards, I for one cannot wait until we actually sign some players who can play the game.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:32:28
amen to that janaage


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:32:55
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


 The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game, although you've got the likes of Luca Toni,  Nicola Zigic,  Carsten Janker and Jan Koller on the continent.

 Fallon is a good striker at L1 level and so is worth about 250K....should Big Bad Bazza, get his injury sorted and carry on scoring then he could be worth a lot more.

 I daresay Mr Sturrock will be considering a bid.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:38:38
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


 The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game, although you've got the likes of Luca Toni,  Nicola Zigic,  Carsten Janker and Jan Koller on the continent.

 Fallon is a good striker at L1 level and so is worth about 250K....should Big Bad Bazza, get his injury sorted and carry on scoring then he could be worth a lot more.

 I daresay Mr Sturrock will be considering a bid.
Difference is, those players can actually play a bit as well.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:42:43
fallon was a pretty decent player by the time he left us.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:45:28
Quote from: "SwindonTartanArmy"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


 The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game, although you've got the likes of Luca Toni,  Nicola Zigic,  Carsten Janker and Jan Koller on the continent.

 Fallon is a good striker at L1 level and so is worth about 250K....should Big Bad Bazza, get his injury sorted and carry on scoring then he could be worth a lot more.

 I daresay Mr Sturrock will be considering a bid.
Difference is, those players can actually play a bit as well.


 Indeed which is why it is reflected in their valuation, hence a Crouch will set you back 7/8 mill.

  My point being that a big CF is a highly desirable item for a lot of managers....therefore an adequate player has a market value even to a lower league side.

  Would Lukas have gone to Everton, if he had been 5 ft 9 ?


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:46:26
he was played as our main striker during the 05/06 season, and it clearly benefited him. I doubt he ever had that role at swansea and plymouth, so its not to suprising  he didnt set the world alight. He wasn't a goal machine when he played along with parkin for us


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: DV on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:46:57
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I'm not liking the look of Sturrock getting in a war chest....apparently Ipswich have bid a mil for Norris....who incidentally  :king: tried to sign for us, he even went to a pre session training thing.

   We know Sturrock and his liking  of an old player...who could cut it at CCC level.  Ifil Brez Comminges Cox.    Cox and Ifil would be the real worry.


I wouldnt pay a million for Tails, he's shit....

Rory has only had 6 good months in his career, he has yet to prove whether it was class shining through with regular football or whether it was just a fluke.

He was getting first team football here and scoring goals, enjoying the best spell of his career.....should have stayed, but hey he wanted more money.

I wonder if he'll use his signing on fee to pay off gambling debts again  :roll:


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:52:23
His goal record at plymouth shows hes not up to Championship level really, he lacks a bit of pace and intelligence at that level brute force isnt really enough on its own.

Hes a good striker at L1 level though when fully fit and motivated


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: strooood on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:55:03
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I'm not liking the look of Sturrock getting in a war chest....apparently Ipswich have bid a mil for Norris....who incidentally  :king: tried to sign for us, he even went to a pre session training thing.

   We know Sturrock and his liking  of an old player...who could cut it at CCC level.  Ifil Brez Comminges Cox.    Cox and Ifil would be the real worry.


i honestly thought i had dreamt norris being with us, think it was the same summer that parkin signed.

as for 250k for fallon, probably about 100k too high if you ask me but if he comes in and gets them promoted then it's money well spent.

if he does sign, that would bring his total fees to about 900k- i dont think thats a fluke.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:55:19
I disagree, he was used as thr brute force when he came here, but by the time he left (after a lazy season the one before) he was by far and away our best player, strong, powerful and scored goals. The day he was sold I was convinced we would go down


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:55:28
£50,000 for three goals then. Sure there were loads of assists..


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:58:38
Quote from: "Dachauer"
I disagree, he was used as thr brute force when he came here, but by the time he left (after a lazy season the one before) he was by far and away our best player, strong, powerful and scored goals. The day he was sold I was convinced we would go down


And what does strong & powerful equal??

Brute force!  :mrgreen:

Nothing wrong with that in a centre forward, but if you've not got anything else about you (other than 25 yard wonder overhead kicks in debys) then there is only so far you arte going to go as a player

As it is I will love him forever more for that goal


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: DV on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 17:22:10
Quote from: "Dachauer"
I disagree, he was used as thr brute force when he came here, but by the time he left (after a lazy season the one before) he was by far and away our best player, strong, powerful and scored goals. The day he was sold I was convinced we would go down


by far and away our best player, yes!

...but I think that says far more about the standard of that team than the actual standard of Fallon. That was our worst team in god knows how many years.

Funny, because Ifil played that season and you wouldnt say Fallon was a better a player than Ifil now would you!


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: yeo on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 18:29:02
I see Plymouth have sold a 17 year old to Everton for a Million today as well.It'll be company for Lucas whens hes finished his loan at Plymouth.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:11:55
Quote from: "SwindonTartanArmy"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


 The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game, although you've got the likes of Luca Toni,  Nicola Zigic,  Carsten Janker and Jan Koller on the continent.

 Fallon is a good striker at L1 level and so is worth about 250K....should Big Bad Bazza, get his injury sorted and carry on scoring then he could be worth a lot more.

 I daresay Mr Sturrock will be considering a bid.
Difference is, those players can actually play a bit as well.


dunno, you seen zigic play?  :D

i can see sturrock coming in for ifil and brezovan, not sure about others - there's definitely room for those two to improve further as well IMO.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Bushey Boy on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:14:24
Quote from: "Oevil red"
I see Plymouth have sold a 17 year old to Everton for a Million today as well.It'll be company for Lucas whens hes finished his loan at Plymouth.


So how much kick back is sturrock getting, I mean he sold Lucas, tried to sell tozer and Brez to them as well?!?! mmmm


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:21:02
I reckon Kingy is involved links here, links at Everton and Chief Scout at plymouth. My plymouth supporting boss is really worried, Norris, Buzsacky, Gosling, Hayles, a long list of guys leaving home Park, he's not exactly enamoured with teh prospect of Lukas and Coxy getting them up!


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:33:08
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
Quote from: "Oevil red"
I see Plymouth have sold a 17 year old to Everton for a Million today as well.It'll be company for Lucas whens hes finished his loan at Plymouth.


So how much kick back is sturrock getting, I mean he sold Lucas, tried to sell tozer and Brez to them as well?!?! mmmm


 Got to admit to wondering what the deal is between Sturrock and Moyes?


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:41:57
Quote from: "SY"
Quote from: "SwindonTartanArmy"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "janaage"
Bollocks I'd be horrified if we spent a quarter of a million on a player like Fallon.  Fitton has already said we are aiming for the championship and Fallon is not good enough for that level.


 The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game, although you've got the likes of Luca Toni,  Nicola Zigic,  Carsten Janker and Jan Koller on the continent.

 Fallon is a good striker at L1 level and so is worth about 250K....should Big Bad Bazza, get his injury sorted and carry on scoring then he could be worth a lot more.

 I daresay Mr Sturrock will be considering a bid.
Difference is, those players can actually play a bit as well.


 
dunno, you seen zigic play?  :D

i can see sturrock coming in for ifil and brezovan, not sure about others - there's definitely room for those two to improve further as well IMO.


  It does seem a bit odd that Valencia paid 13.5 mill for Zigic, but I supose for a champions league regular side, they reckon he might give them something diferent, and they've plenty of money.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 19:43:21
<pedant>

I thought 'a monkey' was £500? Or a woman's naughty bits....

</pedant>


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 20:00:44
Luca Toni is another big fella who appears to be doing a lot better than expected at Bayern.  9 odd goals in 15 domestic games and 6 in 4 in the old UEFA including those 4 goals in one game.

I think with these big fellas a lot depends on the shape and mentality of the side.  Crouch at Portsmouth did well feeding off that brilliant loon Prosineki but ended up looking like a turd burger when he arrived at Villa who pumped endless balls to the back of his head.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, January 3, 2008, 21:18:04
Quote from: "arriba"
fallon was a pretty decent player by the time he left us.


I didnt think he was that great. Yes he scored a few goals for us etc but he was the best of a very bad bunch that season.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, January 4, 2008, 08:07:22
I dont think Sturrock will touch Corr. Not with that back injury.

Still no word on a Plymouth bid for Cox? Im sure they would blow us out of the water.

Of our current players I rekon Ifil/Easton/Brezovan would tempt him most.

It has to be said there is a lot of business going on between Moyes and Sturrock.  :|


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, January 4, 2008, 12:23:09
Quote from: "Dazzza"
Luca Toni is another big fella who appears to be doing a lot better than expected at Bayern.  9 odd goals in 15 domestic games and 6 in 4 in the old UEFA including those 4 goals in one game.


His partnership with Miroslav Klose is superb


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: red macca on Friday, January 4, 2008, 13:14:06
Fred and rose will argue they had a good partnership still a pair of cunts though


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: Power to people on Friday, January 4, 2008, 13:46:37
I think that the only players that Sturrock may return for will be Ifil & Easton, I think they already have a decent keeper.

I would be surprised if he did come in for them as if he has any respect for his previous club then the only time he would is if they was on their way anyway to someone else so he was matching the offer rather than starting off the bidding.

I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Sturrock has said he will not return for any Swindon players out of respect.

I suspect also he has got a good relationship with Moyes in that if Sturrock gives them first choice on youngsters then Moyes helps Sturrock with loan players i.e. Lucas.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: donkey on Friday, January 4, 2008, 20:02:55
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
The big donkey CF is still a staple particularly of teh English game


Yep, I rock 8)


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 16:46:05
he never went there then


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: lebowski on Sunday, January 13, 2008, 16:57:42
fallon turned down the move.

also, southend had a £100k bid for 'ull's stuart elliot accepted, but he too rejected the move.

he was absolutely amazing in their league 1 promotion campaign, scored nearly 30 goals if i remember.

doubt he'd come here though.


Title: Fallon to Saaaaarfend for 250 monkeys
Post by: newmarket red on Sunday, January 13, 2008, 19:04:08
Quote from: "lebowski"
fallon turned down the move.

also, southend had a £100k bid for 'ull's stuart elliot accepted, but he too rejected the move.

he was absolutely amazing in their league 1 promotion campaign, scored nearly 30 goals if i remember.

doubt he'd come here though.
If we don't ask we will never know :)