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Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 19:04:26
Does anyone know what the issue is here?

Surely the new board know the balance- and just pay it. Anyone aware of what the dificult issues are?


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 19:08:27
I suspect they may try to negociate it down. Along the lines of "We'll give you 50% or the club folds and you get zip"

Of course, they may just be trying to figure out how much we actually owe (see forgetting VAT incidents in the past)

Or finally, they could be on the phone to Ocean Finance seeing what they can do about it.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: jim on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 19:12:13
Quote from: "Nemo"
I suspect they may try to negociate it down. Along the lines of "We'll give you 50% or the club folds and you get zip"

Of course, they may just be trying to figure out how much we actually owe (see forgetting VAT incidents in the past)

Or finally, they could be on the phone to Ocean Finance seeing what they can do about it.

HMRC arent a normal creditor - thay have no shareholders to appease, just a  dim-witted focus on the rules.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: hmparkin on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 19:46:52
Could it be something to do with HMRC having to agree to have the debt paid by someone other than the original debtor? Bit of a guess, but you never know...


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 19:54:10
I'm guessing they want to pay in installments and a very clever chap like you Bartholumeu, would know that this will incur additional penalties and interest.

Or is it that you 'know' something extra but do not want to tell us e.g. Diamandis for 2 years (which we knew he was a thorn in our sides by the way).


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:05:38
my guess is that fitton either wants to negotiate the amount down, or that he wants assurances that this payment is full and final, and eliminates any further liability for the period prior to his takeover.

in fact i'm sure it's the latter, perhaps in addition to the former.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:10:56
how sure are you? 98%  :wink:

Bart, if you know somethign just fucking say it lovely


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:12:29
that's all a total guess, by the way.

i do not have any insider information.

i am pure, and virginal.

 8)


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:13:12
can I bum you?  :o


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:13:18
yeah bart, ya shit.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 20:13:44
:oops:

oh my


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 23:44:12
I see 000 is upto his old tricks on thisis, he just posted this:

I've heard from a very good source at club that the takeover has again taken a nose dive, as SSW needed to sign and return legally binding paperwork to Fitton and co by 2pm today, or the deal may be cancelled, SSW has not signed and returned the paperwork, as his legal team believe there are problems that are not covered in the agreement, these issues are based around profit shares from any future ground redevelopment, My source has told me this is one step too far for Fitton, who may announce tomorrow afternoon the deal is dead.

He's got it wrong in the past a few times, i think he's another wind-up merchant, i don't believe the above at all, infact i am very confident that this takeover will be permanent very soon.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 23:53:18
Yes given the fact solicitors etc are open on Boxing Day???? Twat.

What a stupid ploy to try and get people worrying. I guess the kids are off school for Christmas now.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: glos_robin on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 23:57:50
Oh there's alot of first time posters on there at the moment spreading conspiracy theories


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: axs on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 00:00:02
and all from the oxford/ bristol region.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 01:25:16
000 was wrong last time and i think he's wrong again. There is another poster on there called John Mckenna who thinks he works in the field of HMRC and that the deal will collapse because HMRC are not willing to accept "a deal" with Fitton. Well hang on a minute. We clearly know that any involvement with SSW has now been erased and he is not a part of the deal any longer so 000 is talking shit again. We know there were only 3 conditions to complete 2 of which have been completed according to Fitton (and i trust him). So that leaves HMRC who this John Mckenna guy reckons won't accept a lesser amount owed. I think it's quite clear Fitton will pay the 1.8 mill owed to them and that the accounts are being checked to make sure there are no skeletons in the closet. It's routine from Fitton and who can blame him given the last regime's incompetance? That's my take on it anyway.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 08:51:37
Fitton may be trying to negotiate not paying some of the fines and interest that they have occured if they offer to pay the full amount owed now rather than over a set period.

No news on the CVA being paid off though.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 09:01:00
I think Jan 11th will be pay the debts off day.

Surely nobody in their right mind will be paying anything off other than day to day costs until the deal is finalised.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 09:09:49
Isn't today the most popular for domestic violence? This isn't helping..


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: dell boy on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 09:17:36
Quote from: "Sussex"
Isn't today the most popular for domestic violence? This isn't helping..


Yes it is, always found that a strange statistic because people are generally so happy at this time of the year ...  it is also the most popular time of the year to tell your boss to stick his job when you return back to work.


Title: Payments to HMRC
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 09:20:15
Indeed Dell, and also the best time if you're looking for a new job!