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Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 14:55:43
paul simpson.

brilliant at home-town-club carlise.

shite at preston.

currently looking for work.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 14:56:22
He has applied for the job i think. Don't like the sound of him though.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 14:58:15
Split the dressing room, fell out with players

Just like McMahon - no thanks.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 14:59:56
just doing some research on him now.

struggling to get past the fact that he played for oxford.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Northern Red on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 15:02:10
I'd prefer a slightly intelligent chimp to be honest.

Remember before the double promotion he managed to get them relegated as a player manager.
Not at all rated by the Carlisle fans, and felt that the team overachieved to get the second promotion from League 2 (ie were lucky).
He's a league 2 manager at best, and we're looking forward not back please...


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 15:11:27
Martin Ling has to be first choice, Mickey Adams isn't a bad second choice as he has done well although I think he is better at struggling teams, really not sure who else stands out, Fitton seems to want someone that has acheived something and is hungry to achieve something

Would Billy Davies (ex Preston & Derby) drop to this level ?


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 15:14:24
it's a good shout, but i think billy davies is likely to be lining up jobs like hibernian, fulham, and perhaps even scotland to be honest.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 15:15:54
also, i read somewhere that cotterill has applied for the brentford job.

fitton needs to speak to him ver soon as he definitely fits all the criteria of having a track record.

not only that, but he is a local too.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 16:12:55
He simply isn't anyway near the class of manager we should be looking at.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 16:18:01
The club emailed me thanking for my application  8)
Thatll be the end of that though i think.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: adje on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 17:05:34
Quote from: "Ardiles"
He simply isn't anyway near the class of manager we should be looking at.


to be honest we're not the sort of club that's gonna be able to attract real class managers


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 17:10:35
Not sure what you mean.  The last two we attracted were Wise and Sturrock...and that was with monkeys in charge at board level.  With Fitton's consortium in place, I think we'll have a decent enough selection of candidates to choose from.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 17:49:57
Quote from: "lebowski"
also, i read somewhere that cotterill has applied for the brentford job.

fitton needs to speak to him ver soon as he definitely fits all the criteria of having a track record.

not only that, but he is a local too.


That's interesting because i don't think he actually applied for the job here (as far as we know) but then again apprantly he hates us according to Cheltenham fans  :roll:


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 17:57:09
Quote from: "adje"
Quote from: "Ardiles"
He simply isn't anyway near the class of manager we should be looking at.


to be honest we're not the sort of club that's gonna be able to attract real class managers
why not?

like ardiles said, we managed to attract two high-profile managers in a year and that was with a bunch of fucking morons in charge.

ling or nijholt for me.

i've forgotten who this thread is about.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:10:00
An Orient fan on another forum reckons there were strong rumours today amongst the Orient fans that Ling is on his way here very soon e.g. within the next 2 weeks.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:12:47
i have found a busy leyton orient forum and have been having a nosey

http://www.leytonorient2.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=1

there isnt a lot of talk on there about ling leaving

in fact there isnt any at all

i think he will stay there.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:15:14
I think he was on about word of mouth at their game today. I'm sure there will be some talk on there soon.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:16:05
well i hope so.

i found one person complaining that orient are unable to play direct football when the need arises.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:18:40
Quote from: "lebowski"
well i hope so.

i found one person complaining that orient are unable to play direct football when the need arises.


Yes it seems as though some people say Ling finds it hard to come up with a plan B. It doesn't sound like he is loved a great deal there despite their lofty position.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 18:35:03
I heard today that Fitton and Ling are close mates, and he'll be talking to him on Saturday.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 08:54:11
Another name to put into the mix is Mike Newell, he has done well previously and only left Luton when they was having all the troubles with the Bungs etc which made his job harder.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Luci on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 08:58:23
Im pretty sure it'll be Ling.   Not sure whether thats cause I want him here or cause I think he'll come though  :D


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: kevjoycreed on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 08:58:33
Quote from: "Power to people"
Another name to put into the mix is Mike Newell, he has done well previously and only left Luton when they was having all the troubles with the Bungs etc which made his job harder.


Can't stand him. Dunno why he just looks a bit shifty, and he's got a mullet.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 10:12:04
Well if we were to beat Bournemouth and Swansea (OK, a couple of fairly sizeable 'ifs' there I know but stranger things have happened) then surely 'Budgie' Byrne will have a pretty strong case wouldn't he?

I'm just thinking about Fitton's comments about having his coaching badges and thereby implying that he might be thinking of a rather more hands on approach than other club owners/chairmen.

He might think Byrne would be more receptive to his ideas than an established manager would be.

I know I'm probably putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 16253749.03894, but that's what this forum is about isn't it really?


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: STFC Bart on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 11:13:15
Byrne would be no good in the long term. Fitton is looking long term


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Tails on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 11:15:46
Quote from: "lebowski"
i have found a busy leyton orient forum and have been having a nosey

http://www.leytonorient2.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=1

there isnt a lot of talk on there about ling leaving

in fact there isnt any at all

i think he will stay there.


we should all go on there and wind them up, bit of revenge for their invasion a few years ago!


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Moomin on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 12:05:42
they're talking about it now...................

http://www.leytonorient2.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=167432


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 12:06:17
Tails that's a plan  :mrgreen:


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 12:07:32
Quote from: "Moomin"
they're talking about it now...................

http://www.leytonorient2.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=167432


They seem pretty convinced he's off  :D


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: DV on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 16:58:49
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Well if we were to beat Bournemouth and Swansea (OK, a couple of fairly sizeable 'ifs' there I know but stranger things have happened) then surely 'Budgie' Byrne will have a pretty strong case wouldn't he?

I'm just thinking about Fitton's comments about having his coaching badges and thereby implying that he might be thinking of a rather more hands on approach than other club owners/chairmen.

He might think Byrne would be more receptive to his ideas than an established manager would be.

I know I'm probably putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 16253749.03894, but that's what this forum is about isn't it really?


the fact Fitton has drawn up a short list and is doing interviews shows he has no intention of appointing Byrne as manager and rightfully so.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 17:02:26
After seeing how good we can be when we keep the ball on the floor I really want a manager who will get us playing good football and not hoof ball.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Tails on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 22:26:28
Like Ling?


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, December 27, 2007, 22:32:08
I think that was what Si was implying.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, December 28, 2007, 00:57:09
Does it have to be Ling?

No.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: axs on Friday, December 28, 2007, 01:00:39
Quote from: "Chuck Berry"
We want to play with Martin-o-Ling!


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: axs on Friday, December 28, 2007, 01:03:35
this is quite sad but i'm still laughing at my own joke. i've got a version of the song still going round my head.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: axs on Friday, December 28, 2007, 01:10:29
just for the youngsters:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HYnt3RTwl0M

trouble is the townend would start singing 'fucking head in'


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, December 28, 2007, 13:37:58
Ling's my pick - we've got the personnel for his game too, which is surprising given that Sturrock chose strong, no nonsense players.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Friday, December 28, 2007, 13:42:18
daily mirror says today thats its mickey adams and that brezovan is going to pygmy for half a million.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, December 28, 2007, 13:49:20
Hope it's not Adams.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, December 28, 2007, 14:15:42
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Hope it's not Adams.


I think Adams is similar to Sturrock in that he had a good reputation that became tranished.  I wouldn't be disappointed if we appointed him...


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: adje on Friday, December 28, 2007, 14:41:55
Bring back Gus I say


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Foggy on Friday, December 28, 2007, 14:56:23
Why are people convinced that Ling would be the right man for us? What has he won? Surely we need to be aiming higher than an ex player that has done an ok job in the lower leagues?


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, December 28, 2007, 15:06:43
Quote from: "Fogster"
Why are people convinced that Ling would be the right man for us? What has he won? Surely we need to be aiming higher than an ex player that has done an ok job in the lower leagues?


 Don't make the mistake of thinking we're somehow now different in terms of finances than before.

 Fitton has said now in the press that he wont be throwing money at this.....the line if we could get a an extra 1500 on the gate, then we could get better players.....is straight out of the Devlin/Holt lexicon of around 2003/04.

 In order to stabilise finances, then its likely we'll  see cuts...again something Fitton implies.

  Getting someone of top pedigree is just going to be beyond us......Sturrock was a decent appointment, but at the end of the day we couldn't afford to keep paying his wages....

  Given that Orient are doing better than us right now.....getting Ling would be quite an achievement.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, December 28, 2007, 16:33:03
Quote from: "ExeRed"
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Hope it's not Adams.


I think Adams is similar to Sturrock in that he had a good reputation that became tranished.  I wouldn't be disappointed if we appointed him...


He hasn't been in a job for ages now though. I wonder why? He hasn't achieved much either. Just a bit of a decent promotion with Brighton and maybe did OK at Leicester. I'd rather have Cotterill or Ling myself.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Arriba on Friday, December 28, 2007, 16:34:39
ling would cost money in compo.there are plenty of other candidates that we would not need to pay compo for.forget the fact that ling played for us. apart from that he hasn't exactly set the world alight has he?


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, December 28, 2007, 16:34:54
Quote
Fitton has said now in the press that he wont be throwing money at this.....the line if we could get a an extra 1500 on the gate, then we could get better players.....is straight out of the Devlin/Holt lexicon of around 2003/04.

 In order to stabilise finances, then its likely we'll  see cuts...again something Fitton implies.

Getting someone of top pedigree is just going to be beyond us......Sturrock was a decent appointment, but at the end of the day we couldn't afford to keep paying his wages....

Given that Orient are doing better than us right now.....getting Ling would be quite an achievement.


Although Reg, Fitton has said that he is willing to look for somebody who is currently working and therefore willing to pay compo! And depsite him saying that he is going to throw money away surely he will still know that SOME money has to be spent. Bear in mind also that some of the manager's that have thrown their names into the hat are not half bad for this league yet he may (by his own admission) be willing to pay out compensation for somebody else (somebody better)

In saying that though I agree that we shouldn't all expect for us to be spending ton's in the transfer market, just what is neccessary and we are probably not far of that already. So maybe a couple of decent permanent signings with a loan kitty on top.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, December 28, 2007, 16:44:01
Quote from: "BANGKOK RED"
Quote
Fitton has said now in the press that he wont be throwing money at this.....the line if we could get a an extra 1500 on the gate, then we could get better players.....is straight out of the Devlin/Holt lexicon of around 2003/04.

 In order to stabilise finances, then its likely we'll  see cuts...again something Fitton implies.

Getting someone of top pedigree is just going to be beyond us......Sturrock was a decent appointment, but at the end of the day we couldn't afford to keep paying his wages....

Given that Orient are doing better than us right now.....getting Ling would be quite an achievement.


Although Reg, Fitton has said that he is willing to look for somebody who is currently working and therefore willing to pay compo! And depsite him saying that he is going to throw money away surely he will still know that SOME money has to be spent. Bear in mind also that some of the manager's that have thrown their names into the hat are not half bad for this league yet he may (by his own admission) be willing to pay out compensation for somebody else (somebody better)

In saying that though I agree that we shouldn't all expect for us to be spending ton's in the transfer market, just what is neccessary and we are probably not far of that already. So maybe a couple of decent permanent signings with a loan kitty on top.


  Fitton's crew will have had to spend a tidy sum, on clearing debt and buying out Diamandis etc.  for which I'm eternally grateful.

  Lets imagine that we pick up 500K for Brez, then that sort of money can then be used to strengthen.if its in the hands of a bright manager.


Title: another managerial candidate:
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, December 28, 2007, 16:49:09
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "BANGKOK RED"
Quote
Fitton has said now in the press that he wont be throwing money at this.....the line if we could get a an extra 1500 on the gate, then we could get better players.....is straight out of the Devlin/Holt lexicon of around 2003/04.

 In order to stabilise finances, then its likely we'll  see cuts...again something Fitton implies.

Getting someone of top pedigree is just going to be beyond us......Sturrock was a decent appointment, but at the end of the day we couldn't afford to keep paying his wages....

Given that Orient are doing better than us right now.....getting Ling would be quite an achievement.


Although Reg, Fitton has said that he is willing to look for somebody who is currently working and therefore willing to pay compo! And depsite him saying that he is going to throw money away surely he will still know that SOME money has to be spent. Bear in mind also that some of the manager's that have thrown their names into the hat are not half bad for this league yet he may (by his own admission) be willing to pay out compensation for somebody else (somebody better)

In saying that though I agree that we shouldn't all expect for us to be spending ton's in the transfer market, just what is neccessary and we are probably not far of that already. So maybe a couple of decent permanent signings with a loan kitty on top.


  Fitton's crew will have had to spend a tidy sum, on clearing debt and buying out Diamandis etc.  for which I'm eternally grateful.

  Lets imagine that we pick up 500K for Brez, then that sort of money can then be used to strengthen.if its in the hands of a bright manager
.


Which will automatically make our financial situation a whole lot different surely: how much money from previous sales was re-invested into the squad?

What's more is that he has said himself that we no longer need to sell our players, which suggests to me that he is willing to spend a bit although it is clear that he isn't going to break the bank.