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Title: Tozer off
Post by: mattboyslim on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 11:55:19
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.1907937.0.tozer_off_to_toon.php

Not that gutted, provided the cash goes to the right place (ie post takeover).  He's played barely a handful of games and that represents a good return considering he's been at the club less than a year.  Obviously if it goes to re-doing someon's drive then it's not so good, but having seen Tozer I could see him not turnign out that great after all, and we'd be ruing the cash we might have had.  Good luck to the lad, a situation that is out of our hands to a certain extent, you can't stop anyone moving to a prem team.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 11:59:41
he's not even that good! Does leave us a little bare at center back though


Title: Tozer off
Post by: kaufman on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:02:53
as i said in the other thread, i think this will be the current boards farewell payment.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:06:09
Newcastle must have more money than sense, how can a kid who has played 3 games in League 1 and not even been that impressive be worth 1.1 million. If this is the deal that secures the Fitton takeover then I am not to upset at losing Tozer


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:06:31
Tozer is pretty rubbish at the moment anyway. I can see the potential, but without a club then that won't be realised at Swindon anyway. I just hope it doesn't mean the Board hang on because of it, which is what I suspect could happen.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:07:31
1.1m is suspiciously close to the amount we need to pay off Bill Power, if indeed it was a loan, is it not?

I suppose that could seal the deal with Fitton.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:17:54
Quote from: "Si Pie"
1.1m is suspiciously close to the amount we need to pay off Bill Power, if indeed it was a loan, is it not?

I suppose that could seal the deal with Fitton.


I think you may have hit the nail on the head, this deal does seem very conveniently timed. For the first time in weeks I actually reckon the Fitton deal is going to go through tomorrow I dont know why but just a got a gut feeling that we may finally be rid of MD and SSW


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:19:14
I have a feeling the Greek is staying. If BP is paid off, then Fitton can buy Wills' shares and get control, but the Greek can still remain.

It seals the deal because Diamandis never wanted to sell his shares for face value.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:21:38
I hope it is all concluded tomorrow or before the next match. Then we need a half-decent manager to come in (I want Martin Allen but whoever) to shake the squad up and bring the feel good factor back.

The thing is Williams and Bryne are part of the group and as such do not have the respect of the players by the looks of things, they don't seem to take them seriously. A new manager from outside will force the players to play for their future again


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Lumps on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:23:56
I think everyones ignoring the fact that there's no way on earth the quoted £1.1m will be an up front payment.

I'd expect that, like the Everton deal for Lucas, there'd be an upfront of  £300-400K and the rest in installments based on appearances etc.

Ordinarily that's not great, but in these circumstances it's the way I'd want things.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: mattboyslim on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:25:09
Agree with much of what is said, losing a player like Tozer does not at the current time significantly weaken the starting 11 IMHO if all fit (especially with Willaims somewhere near fir, and vincent soon to be back), and if it facilitates a takeover and new manager than it can only be good news, having seen the game yesterday it was wholly evident that we need a coach and soon.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: DMR on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 12:31:43
Over a million quid for a crap left back just goes to show how much we got mugged selling LJ at a knock-down rate.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Spud on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 13:01:33
If the Board taking the money from this means they will fuck off then i'll take that.

Don't rate the kid anyway.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 13:59:24
i think my exact words to lee peacock last night were "who gives a fuck about tozer?"

meh


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, December 16, 2007, 19:42:01
I suspect the deal is half up front and the rest is dependant on clauses so a potential of 1.1m if he plays for England or makes a 1st team appearance etc.

I suspect there is something here to do with the current lot - like the get to use it to pay Power or solicitor fee's or something.

Either way I would expect Fitton to tell us what the deal is when he takes over as he has said he will be open and honest.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: janaage on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:05:21
http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1208530,00.html

officially gone this morning, no word of how much we got for him though.

Best of luck to the lad, although he doesn't really feel like he was ever a "town player" like Lukas for example.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:12:18
not sure why we are selling him to be honest


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:16:31
Good bit of business by us. Came for nothing, left for something!

He'll have the best chance of making it now, because regardless of how good our setup is it will never compete with Newcastle's resources.

It is a pity that anyone young with talent is taken before even establishing themselves in our first team though.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:22:21
Quote from: "fatbury"
not sure why we are selling him to be honest


R.O.I.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: JPC82 on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:23:53
Quote from: "Batch"
Good bit of business by us. Came for nothing, left for something!

He'll have the best chance of making it now, because regardless of how good our setup is it will never compete with Newcastle's resources.

It is a pity that anyone young with talent is taken before even establishing themselves in our first team though.


to be honest im not sure he would have, like u say though he will have a better chance in the game now with the better coaching


Title: Tozer off
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:28:26
probably go out on loan somewhere ... I cant understand why when we sell a young player such as Tozer or Lukas that we dont as part of the deal agree to keep them on loan until the end of the season or even the next - they would still be able to hook up with their parent club whilst helping us also ...


Title: Tozer off
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:46:46
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
Quote from: "fatbury"
not sure why we are selling him to be honest


R.O.I.
republic of ireland?


Title: Tozer off
Post by: magic8ball on Monday, January 7, 2008, 15:47:42
Quote from: "Malkmus"
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
Quote from: "fatbury"
not sure why we are selling him to be honest


R.O.I.
republic of ireland?


Return on Investment I presume.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Monday, January 7, 2008, 16:00:28
Quote from: "Batch"
Good bit of business by us. Came for nothing, left for something!

He'll have the best chance of making it now, because regardless of how good our setup is it will never compete with Newcastle's resources.

It is a pity that anyone young with talent is taken before even establishing themselves in our first team though.
Theo Walcott :evil:


Title: Tozer off
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, January 7, 2008, 16:31:58
Quote from: "fatbury"
probably go out on loan somewhere ... I cant understand why when we sell a young player such as Tozer or Lukas that we dont as part of the deal agree to keep them on loan until the end of the season or even the next - they would still be able to hook up with their parent club whilst helping us also ...


Probably because it's not really in the interests of either club. The buying club will probably want to have a look at the player in training and see how they do in the reserves/youths before making a call on loaning him out, and maybe then to a better team than us.

As for us, we could probably do better than either player in a loan deal, and we're probably also better off seeing what's available instead of tying ourselves down to a player we've just sold.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, January 7, 2008, 16:34:19
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
Quote from: "fatbury"
not sure why we are selling him to be honest


R.O.I.


decent RoR by all accounts


Title: Tozer off
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 7, 2008, 17:00:43
Apparently the hold up for the deal being completed was that one of the clauses was that we get x amount per appearance but they was only appearances in the Prem, but Fitton wanted that ammended to include the FL as well.

So this sounds like it was Fitton doing the deal rather than anything to do with the old lot.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: tans on Monday, January 7, 2008, 17:11:07
theres a video of him signing his deal on the toon website.
hoo fucking ray.


Title: Tozer off
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, January 7, 2008, 19:10:03
Quote from: "Power to people"
Apparently the hold up for the deal being completed was that one of the clauses was that we get x amount per appearance but they was only appearances in the Prem, but Fitton wanted that ammended to include the FL as well.
in case newcastle get relegated?

good forward thinking there by fitton!


Title: Tozer off
Post by: suttonred on Monday, January 7, 2008, 19:46:40
And for when he goes out on loan