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Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:14:55
After he held talks with the FA today, do we think Capello is the right man?

Personally, i think he'd be a great appointment. His record at club level is phenomenal, he has a bullish personality (something i feel several of the England players need) and is at the right age for an international job and is not likely to fuck off at the first chance of a top club job.

My only qualm would be the apparent defensive style he employs, which certainly goes against the grain of how the game is played in the Premiership. How will the likes of Micah Richards and Ashley Cole (assuming they'll be picked) take to calming the attacking nature of their play?

On CV alone, I felt Lippi would've been the top candidate, having just won the WC with Italy, but his lack of basic English makes Fabio first choice for me.

Thoughts?


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:19:21
Dunno, think he could command respect, which i feel is important, but can't see the football being good or conducive to playing the players apparently limited strengths.

I will keep an open mind though because i disliked Ericsson's appointment quite early on, but in hind sight and in light of how well he's doing at Man City, i was wrong.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:19:57
does he speak english? i didn't think he did.

i watched a lot of real madrid games under capello last season and he's a bit like sven in that he picks a tactic and sticks to it. flat back four, two holding midfielders and the rest he sort of makes up as he goes along. he didn't curb roberto carlos' attacking tendencies either, so perhaps cole and richards will cope.

it's dull to watch but it's effective.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:36:38
Ive said no on teh fact I dont think he speaks english


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:37:15
Yay but I feel he's going to have to hit the ground at a sprint to win some of the players round especially given his tendency to drop players against the grain.  

That’s no criticism of his management style his record speaks for its self but given some of the Premiership primadonas if they start throwing their toys out of the pram from the start he could struggle to win them back round

My main worry is we end up like the Scotch under Vogts but I’m sure he’ll grind the results out like he does and he’ll be the tabloid queen for a few months until he shags Ulrikakakakakaaaaaaaaaaa


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 23:41:16
I was under the impression that Capello's English was passable, while Lippi's was almost non-existant. Apologies if that's incorrect.

Edit: Thinking about it, his first competitive game in charge won't be for 9-10 months, so plenty of time for him to brush up on the lingo. Which defeats my argument about Lippi completely :)


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 06:50:24
If he can learn English then a big yes, even though hes not English he is the best candidate available.

The language barrier does concern me though.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 09:27:33
I dont see any better candidates. Hes English is supposed to be basic, but I'm sure the FA can afford a few lessons for him


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 10:08:36
Anybody, even Kingy, would be better than McClaren!!  Capello's track record is first class, at least he won't have Downing as the first name on the team sheet! :old:


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 12:15:26
i wanted Jose :-(


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 15:47:41
his football isn't the most entertaining, but he's a winner which is all that really matters. how long before the press start knocking his tactics then  :-))(


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 15:49:03
The appointment of Capello (which is looking likely according to the beeb) has actually got me kind of excited. For so long I've felt little more than apathy towards england games but the prospect of having a manager with such a pedigree is a step towards re-igniting my interest.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: redbullzeye on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 15:58:49
I'll give him a Yay - we haven't exactly been that entertaining anyway, hoofing it long for Crouch at the merest hint of a set back.  The thing that's pissed me off the most is the apparent lack of any tactical plan half the time and Capello will certainly sort that out.  If he can get a team that creates a platform for Rooney etc to shine then great stuff.  Also if we're not playing at 100 miles an hour, we might not get knackered with 20 minutes to go and let goals in by not closing people down


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: blinkpip on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 17:06:38
He won Roma the Serie A Title. So yay.

I wouldn't give him a 4 year deal thou.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 17:46:52
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
Ive said no on teh fact I dont think he speaks english


Says the man who can't spell 'the' :roll:


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 17:52:28
I recall Don Fabio, playing for Roma at the CG when we beat them 4-0.   Undoubtedly this made a profound impact on him.....

   Capello has always worked with technically decent players.....it wil be interesting to see his approach, and whether he can make much out of our lot.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 17:56:18
what have the romans ever done for us.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Lumps on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 19:12:24
At least he can fall back on bribing the opposition. The English FA have deeper pockets than most.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 19:27:02
Quote from: "Lumps"
At least he can fall back on bribing the opposition. The English FA have deeper pockets than most.


 I'm surprised we ddin't use this tactic v the Croats.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 21:23:39
What will happen is

Capello will win all his friendlies under England, and with his first game being a 4-0 beating of Swizerland.

The English press and public will then go mad, and for some reason start believing think they will will world cup 2010.

10 months down the line, England will struggle to a laboured win against someone like Kazakstan, and then draw away to Ukraine.  The press will then start slating Capello, the pressure will get to much , and then England will start to struggle.

Alternatively England will win their group easily, get to the quater finals of the world cup and play a half decent side.  England will then lose, with national newspapers blaming the defeat on the ref, a dodgey decision, or penalties.  Then England will qualify for euro 2012, same thing will happen, and Capello will leave.

In a word, hes a good manager, but cant see any reason why he will change englands fortunes.  Then again, you never know ...


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, December 13, 2007, 21:40:04
Quote

England will then lose, with national newspapers blaming the defeat on the ref, a dodgey decision, or penalties.


thats what we do best  8)


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: janaage on Friday, December 14, 2007, 09:18:37
Personally, from a non-footballing side of things, I think it's bloody disgusting to be paying anyone £4m a year, especially when I expect that person to be paying no tax on a penny of that income, should think that'll go staright into some offshore account, Capello will not be a UK resident for tax purposes so the HMRC will dip out - disgrace.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Sippo on Friday, December 14, 2007, 09:26:09
And what makes things worse is that its not a 'full-time' job.  :evil:


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, December 14, 2007, 09:28:19
I've decided I don't like him, he's got a massive head!


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: red macca on Friday, December 14, 2007, 12:11:54
I like him , for the first time ever apart from sven we are appointing someone who is actually succesful


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: lebowski on Saturday, December 15, 2007, 12:40:22
Quote from: "red macca"
I like him , for the first time ever apart from sven we are appointing someone who is actually succesful

totally agree.

we went for an englishman last time and look what happened.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, December 15, 2007, 13:02:39
I didnt vote. YES he is probably the best man for the job however the national team should be managed by someone English, I am howerver aware that most english managers are shit right now so I guess Fabio is the man for the job, he is successful and has always said he wanted it from day one unlike Mourniho who used the english job to get a nig club to come after him before it was too late.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: DV on Saturday, December 15, 2007, 13:07:47
he's managed top clubs with huge expectations.
he's managed world class players
and he's a winner

everything Mclaren wasnt.


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: axs on Monday, December 17, 2007, 11:46:32
Quote from: "StefPol"
What will happen is

Capello will win all his friendlies under England, and with his first game being a 4-0 beating of Swizerland.

The English press and public will then go mad, and for some reason start believing think they will will world cup 2010.

10 months down the line, England will struggle to a laboured win against someone like Kazakstan, and then draw away to Ukraine.  The press will then start slating Capello, the pressure will get to much , and then England will start to struggle.

Alternatively England will win their group easily, get to the quater finals of the world cup and play a half decent side.  England will then lose, with national newspapers blaming the defeat on the ref, a dodgey decision, or penalties.  Then England will qualify for euro 2012, same thing will happen, and Capello will leave.

In a word, hes a good manager, but cant see any reason why he will change englands fortunes.  Then again, you never know ...


it's already started:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7146802.stm


Title: Capello the right man for England?
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 18, 2007, 16:21:21
Of course he's a good appointment.

If there was an Englishman in the Brian Clough (no bollocks) or Bobby Robson (top quality coach and highly influential character) type mold then we'd have an Englishman in charge. But we haven't got a coach available at this time - therefore we appoint the best manager available.

When Sven left the England job people like Dave Whelan were screaming for an English manager because, to them, that was the only way we'd ever achieve anything - people like Dave Whelan have been somewhat quieter this time round.



If what I've read about Fabio's man-management is true we'll go forward.