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but make of this what you will


http://forum.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2064


certainly ties in with what I was hearing


I could be wrong, God I hope I am

What have you heard??

My dad knows something but refuses to tell me. Didn't say whether it was bad or good... I think he used the word hopeful. How can a WUP be hopeful?

just loads of talk internally about 10 days ago that HMRC had intended to do this


this guy may be on a complete wind up of course


but it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

 You ought to shave them off mate....nothing more certain to put a bird off.

Quite the opposite going by his recent exploits!

I'd need to se the evidence of this before my own eyes.

Would it not be in the London Gazette/Razzle (delete accordingly)?

 Think Fred's pulling or lack thereof, would more likely be in Razzle.

14 days hence from the serving Dazz

basically what this guy has just done breaks the law

there should be no advertisement of a wup being filed with the debtor for 14 days from the date of service

If this is true, then this guy has just bought himself a whole world of shit

Cheers Fred.

thought bennett would av been on ere by now telling us about his works do being under threat for this saturday as its at the CG.

They went to give STFC the money last thursday. STFC turned it down on the basis that they would be breaking the law if they took the money and were later found to be trading as insolvent at that moment.

Oh and if this isnt true I'm going to hunt the fucker down and cut the cunt

YAY

Free piss up then

(pay ya later mate)

piss up.............with jelly & ice cream as majority of population attending (if its on) is jail-bait

u gotta laugh as notices at work state to make sure the kids take they take their (fake) ID  :soapy tit wank:

There's gonna be jelly & ice cream? I'm there!

There's nothing in the Gazette as it stands today (unless I've missed it). If it was filed last Friday then we won't know until the 21st....what a lovely Christmas present that would be. :cry:

when it rains it pours  :shock:  :|  :cry:

There's a possibility this could be true .....from the Government site...

No earlier than 7 working days after the petition is served on the company, but at least
7 working days before the hearing, the petitioner must advertise notice of the petition
(Form 4.6) in the London Gazette. This enables other interested parties to inform the
petitioner that they wish to attend the hearing, and whether they wish to support or
oppose the petition.

So that would mean it would have to be posted in the Gazette not earlier than Friday

just thought about the old Big Bobjoylove sketch (probably on me own ere but such is)

MD 'sorry we couldn't possibly take your money knowing we're going bust'

BBJ 'oh, I getcha.like that is it? How about we slip ya 8 mill for that xmas do and you forego the rights to profits of future xmas work do's'

MD 'I'm ever so sorry, but we couldn't possibly take your money under false pretences'

BBJ 'like that is it? I see. ok we'll bung in a free season ticket for you & your cronies as you're all such MASSIVE football fans'

MD 'just give us a quid and everybodys happy'  :o  :shock:

On the positive side, wouldn't a wup potentially kick some backsides to get the club sold. And what happened to all that jazz about a judge not going to wind up a company while there was still a viable take-over option.

Sounds like a wind up to me. If we are being wound up then why on earth would Andy Fitton still be holding talks????

I saw that post on thisis and thought "Well back it up then innit", and he couldn't.

I shan't be losing any sleep over that tosser tonight, and it is WAY past my bedtime time so goodnight all.

  Yep....I wouldn't get wound up about a wind up about our winding up if I were you.

   We only ever get WUP's after Sandy has told an AGM that all payments are up to date,

I think he's on a wind up, it just doesn't seem geniune.

Oh, and after reading that post again, he calls it the "Swindon Advertiser".

Iv'e always known it the evening advertiser or even "The adver".

He ain't from Swindon, my bet is that he is a pox fan on a wind up.

It is the Swindon Advertiser, the name changed quite a while ago now.

Oh!!

I wouldn't be surprised that HMRC has issued a WUP on Friday, as we all thought as Fitton had pulled out of a deal the previous day, and that it was just a matter of time before they did so.

Hope your right then Fred can cut him

Maybe thats why talks re-commenced?

I promise you I will hunt the cunt down

I can confirm that this is true

No No i cant

pantomime malarky  :)

so your going to cut him for being wrong/lying despite the fact in your first post you say it does go along with what you've heard.

my uncles dogs mate bob who looks after squirrles who cook breakfast for steven who makes films with jane who bought her underwear from donna who's milkman is mike who mother said we're going bust so I know more than everyone....or i'll hint at it despite the fact I dont have a clue really. I just want to pretend im ace and have sources

'I think that anyone can get this info straight from the court as soon as a petition is filed.' - bullshit. so anyone can just turn up and ask the judge?

Feel free not to believe me. I am surprised that the Swindon Advertiser have not contacted HMRCs press office though. - they would have done. ive checked HMRC press office and there is nothing there.

Which creditors have given the club more time? NOT H.M.R.C, that's for sure. They filed a Winding Up Petition against the club at the High Court last Friday.

Check that with the Court! - what bloody court? how did he check? did he ring up and ask?!

THIS IS A WIND UP PEOPLE!

FWIW There's a few ways to stop a WUP but my eyes started glazing over, so I'll leave it to you chaps that know business law.  Too fucking cold down here to think

Also FWIW nothing in the London Gazette at the moment:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/SearchResults.aspx?pg=1&sb=date&GeoType=London&st=adv&FDay=7&FMth=12&FYr=2007&TDay=11&TMth=12&TYr=2007&all=winding%20up%20petition&exact=Swindon%20Town%20Football%20Club&

Although from what was posted by Ironside and redbullzeye on P.2 if the petition was served on the club on the 7th it would not appear before the 14th. If AF completes by Thursday 13th and all debts are settled prior to publication could this negate any WUP?

No doubt others with more knowledge can advise on that.

Somehow I feel that AF would not be wasting any more time on this if there was any danger of it going tits up.

Looks like Wednesday could be busy.

erm, has anyone contacted the HMRC press office then?

Someone needs to contact them just so we know whether this ossie bloke is on a wind up, plus it's important for us to know.

can you imagine calling them, and saying you're calling in regards to swindon town?

they'll probably say "oh, hello bob".

go on then

crack on then kid

I'll happily find try and find out.  :mrgreen:

STFCere said he had didn't he? Or did i mis read that?  :?

I don't think they will tell us anyway http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/about/press.htm

Well anyway i'll go with assumption that this is a wind up until i hear otherwise from either the club, HMRC, Fitton or the Adver.

I'm going to take that view as well, i think it's a wind up.

given the amount of shite flying around here of late (for example, the criminal investigation that was launched at midnight last thursday) i will take this latest bout of scaremongering with a pinch of salt.

but if someone wants to give the chaps a call just to make sure, then please do  :mrgreen:

HMRC Press Office only deal with enquiries from accredited journalists. If it is not supposed to be advertised for at least 7 days after serving I'm sure they will not tell anybody if a petition was commenced last Friday. In any case, they would probably refer enquiries to the Gazette.

The adver should get on their case and find out whether it is true.

Ring Steve Butt in the morning and tell him!

It could be another exclusive for them.

I don't think it matters either way.  If Fitton is half the businessman he appears he will have factored this in and used it as even more leverage to force a decision. quickly   Fitton said that they had a deal in October/November? but that last minute additions caused the breakdown in talks.  I can't believe he would have gone back to the table unless it was on the basis of the original deal.  So I'm going to stay optimistic and hope for a celebration this Saturday

I'd be worried by that if I were him - Fred's track record on hunting that particular kind of quarry of late is impressive.

Look, guys, the reality is this - irrespective of any rumours, actual timings etc if the Fitton deal does not complete within the next week, we're dead in the water. And if it doesn't complete this week, I'd be extremely concerned that it won't complete at all. When the final nail gets hammered in the coffin is immaterial, unless you're especially fixed on going to Yeovil on Boxing Day for some reason

Finally someone talking sense

Fred - you don't help yourself by saying everytime (or it seems) a rumour appears that it is in line with what you have heard..it does grate a little at times !!  :shock:

.................Fuck it

Edited

As regards to the posting of notices in the London Gazette....

I can speak from the horses mouth so to speak as I have been bankrupt before and my details are on there from 1998.

I filed for bankruptcy 11th June 1998 and the notice was not printed until 19th June 1998 so it took them 8 days to get it into print from filing for bankruptcy, so if that is a guide then there will not be a publication until Friday or Saturday.

As for the post on THISIS....I tend to ignore the vast majority on there as its total shit.....but I also know that if you pay your debts before the winding up notice is issued then the company can continue trading so if they have issued a winding up order against us and Mr Fitton takes over before next week then he can pay all the debts off in full and the company can continue trading.

I am sure that is how the procedure is, or it certainly was 9 years ago if it hasnt changed since then.

:(

Fucking hell

sorry to hear about that JJ

Hey no worries mate I am over and out of it now mate, not the best fun in the world but sometimes needs must to survive.....as for the takeover falling over....I truly cant see it.

I so hope you are right big man

So do I mate, so do I, I cant get on with my life until I know about the future of our club, its taken over my fucking whole life right now :( not that I had much of one to start with! :)

I have been in a constant bad mood for months

although you would never had guessed

 :wink:

I'm sure that this whole sorry saga has taken its toll on all of us.

The wife (northern, limited attention span, patience, interest etc) has limited me to a five word daily update on matters STFC.

Today: possibly deluded however cautiously optimistic

The necessary brevity has proved so successful that we're now looking at extending this approach to other contentious domestic situations.

come and have a protest on saturday, it'll make you feel better.

apology accepted

Yeah and if your internet bitchy to sonic ever again then I'll internet kick your arse. Don't think I've forgotten about that.

Sorry, I'm trying to catch up on stuff having had better things to do than post on the tef for a few days. I feel a little bit lost.

FWIW we rang HMRC a few days back - and we've rung them quite a few times before - and they always say they won't comment on individual cases.

Until it's in the Gazette, presuming it's true, then we won't know anything.

Ace. I'm going to try that as well