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Maverick what's your take on these events?

Do you regret spending hours slagging off the fans consortium and stubbornly defending the board of this football club?

With hindsight would you have done things differently (on a personal level)?

Not meaning to pick you out, just that you're probably the one poster who spent so much time analysing Bill Powers motives, picking holes in most protests that were planned.

I would have posted this on Thisis but to be honest I can't be bothered with that board this evening.

I know we are all angry Jan

but I disagree with this post, I have had many chats with Mav and he is not the pedantic enemy that everyone makes him out to be

People should leave off of him, just as I should leave off of Gazza


...................on second thoughts with Gazza  :wink:

Maverick's posts have been no different to most people's, including mine, in the respect that it's like a record on loop most of the time.

And we could have all stepped up a few gears months ago, so let's not go down that route eh?

What are you on about? I hit my top gear weeks ago.

good post mate

To be honest as someone who has not had the pleasure of meeting Maverick, I just can't agree with you Fred.  

Like I say I'm only asking Maverick because (like an anti-Bart) he's the one board defender that sticks in the mind.

Just a few honest questions, that's all, nothing nasty about it, no offence intended.

Kingston Robin is far more dangerous  :wink:

KR is just KR, living in his own little bubble world of strangeness.

Maverick backed the wrong horse,  especially with his bottom line that,, that it wasn't in Wills' interest to see the club go under....but he did argue his case without resort to personal abuse.   An admissioin of this and 30 mins in the stocks of the CGH garden should be sufficient punishment.

I think he even cautiously backed protests recently.

I have met and talked at length with both Mav and bart

and, whilst I disagree with them a lot of times, I understand their thinking and why they say things

Nothing wrong with having differing opinions

You ever seen or talked to me Fred  :wink:

Turn my back on the rot
That's been planning the plot - because I'm gonna
No need for me to wait - because I wanna
No need two, three, too late – because I'm gonna

Hate to say I told you so - alright
Come on
Do believe I told you so

now it's all over you know?

I'm more worried that the previous verse has something about giving and receiving.

Blimey

come and say hello then

ill let you wear my hat for a while

janaage - if you had posted on Thisis I probably would not have seen it - I hardly go on there ever these days as since it was revamped it seems to have degenerated into something close to 95% bollocks and on a good day 10% football.

Equally, I am not on here often either, partly because of lack of time at the minute, partly because it is all so fucking depressing, and partly because it has felt to me for a long time that our views are irrelevant and have made and will mkae no diiference to whatever the outcome turns out to be.

The only notice the club takes of the forums seems to be whether or not there is something that needs to be removed, or ammunition to store up for "match day intelligence".

In fact I spent a lot of time questioning the fans consortium rather than slagging them off (except at Stockport away which Reg has reminded me of more than once  :P  - for which I publicly apologised and retracted my view - and in my defence, for those that were there, it was the worst performance on the pitch of the whole season, so I was understandably pissed off and lashed out as a result!).

Equally I lost track of the number of times that I posted the fact that I was not pro-Board, and have always felt that the time for them to move on was overdue.

With regard to protests, I was at the meeting at the GWR a few weeks back and aired my thoughts there as I have since on here.

Thinking about it now, I think that this has all had very little to do with the Board. They have no power over the shareholders. Some, I am sure have/had their own agendas, but for others they are employees who at times have served to be the butt/buffer between the fanbase and the shareholders. However, the big decisions will have come down to the majority shareholder, and it seems he will continue to be influenced by the advice he chooses to listen to rather than what may or may not be the right thing to do.

If I had had the time, I certainly would have been more challenging of the BEST approaches - especially as it seemed they were hell-bent on dismantling/upsetting the one area that was going well within the club at the time - the playing side.

I really really hope that it is not now all over, and still harbour the hope that somewhere in the next few hours SSW will grasp the fact that SBC will probably never ever agree to redevlopment whilst any of the present incumbents remain. Because of that, if he manages to raise yet more money and chooses to remain, it will be increasing the debts, and so increasing the annual losses due to increased interest payments. This would raise still higher the price for any potential purchaser, or increase still more the potential losses to SSW.

To sell now, as I see it, is the cheapest option for SSW. If he has indeed any choices, then surely they are to lose all if the club goes under, lose some if the sale happens now, or lose even more if it is left until later for either winding up or a later sale.

To end on a positive - despite following Town for many years as a season ticket holder and away traveller - in the last 15 months or so I have met a lot of people on both sides of that fence ( :wink:  )as a result of my big mouth! Fred and Paul D are good examples of people that I have not always been in agreement with - but I like to think we have got on fine regardless. I must admit though that being a wimp - I was a tad wary when Yeovil introduced himself to me in the Gents in the Arkells a few weeks back!!  :shock:

Hopefully if the impossible (as it seems today) happens, and we do survive - I will get the chance to put even more names to faces, in particular you janaage and Reg (I have an image which I desperately need to dispel  :twisted: ).

Reading back over this it seems like I have slipped back into the long rambling shit that I used to post on Thisis .. so I will stop now. :oops:

Coooooeeeeeeeeeee  :D

Many thanks for that Maverick, as previously stated, this was not an attempt to ridicule you at all.  It was, as the title suggests, just a couple of honest questions that I wanted to put to you.

If the unthinkable happens and the club survives, our path may cross one day, you never know.

Likewise.

That's fair enough tho - he's a notorious cottager

In my defence my willy wasnt out I was having a fag :mrgreen:

cigarette

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

who was the fag in question? I didn't hang around long enough to notice!!  :mrgreen:

:oops:

so you are as easy as Fred said you were then?!  :P

Because I was a board sympathiser at one time, I do personally feel somewhat responsible for the shit going on now even though I never had anything to do really. I did come around as people know for Cheltenham and all that... and started the save-our-swindon thing, I feel guilty about the state the club is in and blame myself for part of it, even though I never put any money in or made any decisions etc I dont kow I still feel guilty or maybe it is regret... I dont know.

I know personally I have not bought things I normally would this season and have told my dad in canada hwo normally gets me stuff from the stfc shop for xmas not to bother etc. I wont be sponsoring a player next season but hey... I feel if I comment on the situation I would be somewhat of a hypocrite.

Thing is I feel that maybe if I didnt sponsor players, go to club functions like quizes, play on the pitch, do a sponsorship etc then that would have cut some money off from them and helps move them sooner, not that my £700.00 makes much difference but hey... I do feel like shit and if the club goes under I will blame myself and feel bad about it.... At the time I thought I was helping the club now I see I was helping to delay the inevitable.

hahahaha

Yep I mostly blame Gazza for everything.

Dont be so stupid Gaz :soapy tit wank:

Fucking hell Gazzz, come on fella, I don't think in the grand scheme of things you've had anything to do with this.

So what if you were a board sympathiser at one time, you weren;t the only one, and I bet there's even a few who still would blindly follow every word BH and the Wills state.

Look at the orange thing, it never had the legs, did we do enough to try and convince the undecided that we were trying to do this for the club?  I regret that that happened at a very busy time of my career and could dedicate as much time to it as I could.  But that's life man.

But come on let's not get too down in the mouth until the worst is confirmed.

Gazza just reminded me but my God am I glad we didn't sponsor a player this year in the end.  (No disrespect to anyone that did though)

Can someone put Mr. Stanley on suicide watch, please?!

Why didn't you admit that it was your fault before all this shit happened.

FFS - I've been blaming Wills, Diamandis, Holt et al

 8)

Fuck off Gaz it's people like you that have been the backbone of the club for generations. Everyone knows it's all my fault anyway - Andronikou said so - so don't try and steal my thunder.

I thought we were still able to blame ITV Digital?

Fucking hell Paul - even trying to busybody your way into Gaz's pit of angst!!!  8)

I've no interest in Gaz's pit - I'll leave that to the likes of you and Yeovil

Its getting relegated from the premiership that is to blame you fucking spakkers :-))(

Or getting promoted there in the first place!

or is it the rather over ambitious North Stand development in the 70's?

are we sure it wasn't over extending ourselves in the 1950's by going for Floodlights?

or maybe the move from Croft is coming back to haunt us financially?

It was winning the league cup in 69 that did it.  stupid horse of the year show :x

And finally ... THE question for Mav:

The public have a right to know if, as someone previously interested in local politics, you have been considering a return. That being the case, is there any truth to the story that the meeting with Yeovil in the toilets was to see if anybody would stand against you?

Very good Ruski :D

   If you readf the accounts from around that time you'll observe we made money out of being in the Prem, what fucked us was trying to get back there.

   However, at least that was driven by a high motive....unfortunately the failure allowed Newbury in somewhat under the radar of most.....and it is that single fact that has led to the demise of our club.

gary's not just to blame for the demise of STFC, he fucking elbowed me in the ribs last night.

string him up!

In the unlikely event of a future for the club.......I'll be proposing to the Trust, the setting up of a Truth and Reconcilliation Commision, where the likes of Gazza and other former Board pasties, can reveal the depth of their collusion.

Has there been any other club whose fans have been subjected to as prolonged a period of instability and, well, shit?  I doubt it.  I think your idea is a good one, Reg.  One day, hopefully, we're going to be able to be Swindon fans again...and ditch all this political bollocks.

 Look no further than what would have been our next home game opponents B and HA.....the shit which Archer and Bellotti dumped on them, was voluminous  and from a great height..  they've yet to really recover.

  The only good thing about their situation was that it was so blatant that there was no chance of fencesitters.  Diamandis had been undermining our club for some years before many people even realised he was there.

  This meant it was much easier to organise resistance.