Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 12:56:26 Get a fucking manager in asap, Williams and byrne are not tactically up to it at all .
Why bring blackburn on when your 3 nil down , Title: Pls Pls Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 12:57:37 Fucking useless Deano.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:00:13 cos we had a centre-back sent off?
Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:03:22 3 nil down sonic play 3 at the back you might aswell lose 5nil. at least show some attacking instinct and some bottle.
Those fans last night deserved to see us at least try and score not hold out for a 3 nil defeat Title: Pls Pls Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:04:09 Indeed.
Im still fucked off about the whole thing and i didnt even go! Title: Pls Pls Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:06:07 So rushing in to appoint a manager will solve all our problems? :-))(
Title: Pls Pls Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:08:11 At the risk of sounding repetitive, all our current woes can be laid firmly at the current major shareholders.
Yes we've got a long injury list and suspensions, but if the fucking club was managed in a professional manner we'd have been able to bring in some loans. Yes Sturrock might have pissed off back to his beloved Plymouth even if the club wasn't run by Roy Rogers and his mates (Cowboys) but if these imbeciles had done everything correctly, we'd have been under new ownership way before now and would have been able to go and get a new manager. Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:13:47 Quote from: "Sippo" So rushing in to appoint a manager will solve all our problems? :-))( On the pitch yes sippo . If you have not realized yet that you or me have no hold of what happens of the pitch then your in troubleTitle: Pls Pls Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:26:12 I just think the board should be concentrating on getting the takeover sorted than getting a manager in at the moment. By the looks of it we won't have a club anyhow. :(
Title: Pls Pls Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:33:23 Sent my application form off for the job, bet i dont hear back from the fuckers though :-))( :wink:
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:35:18 Can't they sort the takeover and manager out at the same time? Hardly a business fucking revelation. Delegate your employees to take on particular tasks (when they get back from dishing out hats and tickets ooop North, obviously). Priorities and that.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:36:41 Birmingham managed it
Title: Pls Pls Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:38:21 Quote from: "red macca" 3 nil down sonic play 3 at the back you might aswell lose 5nil. at least show some attacking instinct and some bottle. didn't listen to the game, what was the score when tozer was sent off? if it was 3-0 fair enough. Those fans last night deserved to see us at least try and score not hold out for a 3 nil defeat byrne did bring corr and sturrock on though, the only other option would be allen and i'm not sure he'd have changed the game much. like i said, didn't listen to the game as i was playing myself but i really fear that any rushed or hasty managerial appointment would be ill advised until the future of the club is certain. what if the current board bought in cotterill this week, the takeover is completed the following week and fitton decides cotterril isn't the right man for him? would the board appointing a new manager without consulting fitton put him off? it's a gamble. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:38:21 In an ideal world sussex that would work. But when you have clowns in charge its a completely different ball game.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:38:35 Sturrock is by no means an idiot, he set up several loans including Collins, because we were running on fumes. We needed the loan players. I don't think that without them, we would have got anything away at Carlisle, even if Fergusson were the manager. We will spiral down the league until the cub gets sorted, or spiral out of it. There is only one thing to be won this season and that is survival.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:40:07 Quote from: "red macca" Birmingham managed it And their takover is doomed! DOOMED I TELL THEE Title: Pls Pls Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:42:13 Quote from: "Sippo" In an ideal world sussex that would work. But when you have clowns in charge its a completely different ball game. Agree fella. It's :wall: ball game. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:46:14 Quote from: "Crozzer" Sturrock is by no means an idiot, he set up several loans including Collins, because we were running on fumes. And Collins ended up going back because we couldn't extend the loan with the embargo ... tips hat to our well-organised board. Title: Pls Pls Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 14:07:13 i thought collins went back because he was injured?
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 14:24:01 Anyone else starting to feel that Martin Allen might well be the man for the job?
Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 14:43:17 nope
Title: Pls Pls Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:08:55 anyone thinking that Im the man for the job?? :wink:
Title: Pls Pls Post by: santini on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:33:35 Quote from: "red macca" 3 nil down sonic play 3 at the back you might aswell lose 5nil. at least show some attacking instinct and some bottle. Some heads were down and Carlisle were making loads of chances. There was no way we were going to pull it back and goal difference could make a difference eventually.Those fans last night deserved to see us at least try and score not hold out for a 3 nil defeat Title: Pls Pls Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:34:45 We met up with a player (no names) in Ladbrokes b4 the game and he said the players dont want allen
Title: Pls Pls Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:36:54 I don't really want Allen, but hearing that the players don't want him decreases that slightly. I hope we get a manager the players don't want. Lazy tossers.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:43:26 Quote from: "santini" Quote from: "red macca" 3 nil down sonic play 3 at the back you might aswell lose 5nil. at least show some attacking instinct and some bottle. Some heads were down and Carlisle were making loads of chances. There was no way we were going to pull it back and goal difference could make a difference eventually.Those fans last night deserved to see us at least try and score not hold out for a 3 nil defeat Title: Pls Pls Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:46:34 But by doing that you risk losing 5,6,7-0, which will be much worse for morale and goal difference come the end of the season.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: red macca on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:56:44 I would rather lose knowing i gave it ago thats all im saying, imagine if blackburn had got inured aswell
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 15:59:58 I see where your coming from, i just feel the sensible thing to do was damage limitation in those circumstances rathr than a gung-ho approach
Title: Pls Pls Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 16:12:21 Quote from: "fatbury" anyone thinking that Im the man for the job?? :wink: You are the man for one particular job. That isn't the Manager of STFC. I don't think I need to elaborate further..... Title: Pls Pls Post by: Spud on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 16:20:29 Quote from: "Sippo" So rushing in to appoint a manager will solve all our problems? :-))( They certainly aren't rushing the takeover, although it should be complete by the end of the week. :roll: Title: Pls Pls Post by: land_of_bo on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 16:22:14 Which week?
I wish they would say "this" week. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Spud on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 16:23:33 Quote from: "land_of_bo" Which week? I wish they would say "this" week. There's still 3 weeks left this year so let's be patient and give them a chance. Title: Pls Pls Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:14:16 Actually, there are 4 Fridays left to complete and issue a statement ...
Title: Pls Pls Post by: glos_robin on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:36:56 Quote from: "Spud" Quote from: "land_of_bo" Which week? I wish they would say "this" week. There's still 3 weeks left this year so let's be patient and give them a chance. I think we've been giving them plenty of chances, personally my patience walked out of the door about 6 months ago and this whole mess needs sortin out one way or another asap as this is doing no one any good..... Title: Pls Pls Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:48:06 If this board were going to sell they would have sold to Bill Power or Best Holdings or they would have wrapped up this deal with Fitton a long time ago.
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:49:11 unless the takeover happens the club is fucked.i dont expect anyone to be named as new boss for a while in the hope that the takeover happens.if it doesn't then we are well and truly fucked.
who's the manager will be the least of any town fan-employees problem Title: Pls Pls Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 17:56:35 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" We met up with a player (no names) in Ladbrokes b4 the game and he said the players dont want allen If that's true then it may be a blessing in disguise if Allen comes in. Why don't they want Allen in, have they worked with him? Was it McGovern? :wink: Title: Pls Pls Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 18:04:00 we all know full well this is a business first and a football club second.
If we can save money by not getting a replacement for Sturrock then we will. Its all about the cash. If we had any ambition as a football club we'd not only be going after free agent managers we be going after decent managers, trying to steal one....just like Plymouth....a club on the up it seems. Title: Pls Pls Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 18:06:02 Quote from: "DV" we all know full well this is a business first and a football club second. that's pushing it a bit!Title: Pls Pls Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 18:07:30 ok, re-phrase....
we all know its money first, football second Title: Pls Pls Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 18:30:14 I don't think the players not wanting Allen makes them lazy....has nobody considered that they might just think he's a Grade A tosser? I can't say I'd be attracted by the prospect of a boss I despised.
I don't see the point in appointing a manager now. We could appoint somebody crap who would do no good, get sacked and leave us in the same mess. Or we could get somebody good, watch the takeover fall apart and everything go wrong that way. Rushed appointments can often prove fatal. Title: Pls Pls Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 19:44:46 Quote from: "reeves4england" Rushed appointments can often prove fatal. So can appointing no one... Title: Pls Pls Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 23:09:38 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "reeves4england" Rushed appointments can often prove fatal. So can appointing no one... Title: Pls Pls Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 23:20:12 Quote from: "reeves4england" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "reeves4england" Rushed appointments can often prove fatal. So can appointing no one... however, if you dont let another club take your manager in the first place the risky decision wouldnt even be there to be made. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 23:24:40 If Sturrock wanted out we'd have never been able to stop him. Though I'm surprised we didn't put up a pretend fight like the Dongs did with Ince.
Money talks. If Ince had wanted out of Franchise he'd have got his move just like Ollie did with the 'muff, etc, etc. We need a new manager, we won't get one until the takeover is complete/screwed. Just got to get on with it. Title: Pls Pls Post by: neville w on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 07:58:37 It's all very well saying we must appoint a manager.
Unrealistic from two angles 1) I can't believe we'd attract anyone currently in a job into the mess that is the club at present (leaving aside the fact we're not going to want to pay compensation until takeover decided). 2) If the takeover is a genuine possibility Fitton will want to appoint to avoid much compensation as a result of ditching the new incumbent. I know these two points have been covered elsewhere and In my opinion the fact we haven't appointed yet gives me a glimmer of hope that the takeover is closer than we might imagine. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 08:06:18 Quote from: "neville w" It's all very well saying we must appoint a manager. Unrealistic from two angles 1) I can't believe we'd attract anyone currently in a job into the mess that is the club at present (leaving aside the fact we're not going to want to pay compensation until takeover decided). 2) If the takeover is a genuine possibility Fitton will want to appoint to avoid much compensation as a result of ditching the new incumbent. I know these two points have been covered elsewhere and In my opinion the fact we haven't appointed yet gives me a glimmer of hope that the takeover is closer than we might imagine. The sight of Sandy Gray on the OS, dishing the freebies, is a sure sign that the takeover is about to collapse and Plan B, to carry on....namely the same old shit. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 08:37:14 Exactly what I thought - charm offensive..."oh, they;re not all that bad are they"
Title: Pls Pls Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 08:47:57 There was a short interview with Martin Ling in the LondonPaper last night. (Might have been covered elsewhere, so apologies if I missed it.) He denied there was any chance of him coming here, saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) 'Swindon don't even have a Chairman at the moment. Why would I want to go to a club that's got so many problems off the field?'
Which is basically what most of us have been thinking anyway. We need to sort out the boardroom shambles first, and then start looking for a new manager. In that order. And to be frank, you would have to question the sanity and credentials of anyone desperate enough to consider us at the moment. When Diamandis is gone, the list of those interested in the Swindon job will suddenly improve in quality. Maybe even Lingy will have a change of heart. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 08:54:36 True Ardiles, but then you have people like Allen saying they would like the job. The fact that someone like Ling is still keeping in touch of the goings on suggests if things did improve, attracting him to the job wouldn't be as difficult as first thought.
If the takeover gets sorted then that's when the major panic for a manager should happen. If not, we're so far up shit creek it's all incidental. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 09:08:29 That's my point, exactly. With decent backing and with a professional management structure (and who knows...Fitton may yet do for Swindon what Madejski did for Reading) I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ling's name back in contention. Or Hoddle's, for that matter. Maybe even Billy Davies.
The fact that Martin Allen is interested underlines my point, to be honest. He would be the cheap, sticking plaster option - and I wouldn't expect him to be with us for any longer than 18 months. Title: Pls Pls Post by: kaufman on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 09:48:59 hoddle was on talk sport last night talking about his new academy he is just about to open.
It takes young players released from clubs who hoddle and his staff has been keeping an eye on and will take them in, develop them and then send them to new clubs for trials after their game has improved. The academy would receive a development fee from the club if they decide to take the player on. He is really excited about it and was asked by ian wright if he would still be interested in the england job. He says he is focused on the academy so i don't think he would be interesed in coming back to swindon somehow. just put this on here to stop people dreaming he would come back. Academy sounds a great idea me thinks. Title: Pls Pls Post by: Tails on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 10:25:52 Ling hasn't actually denied interest in the job, all he's said is the off field problems need sorting. If they are, I think he'll be interested. Well I think he is interested tbh.
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